Originally Posted by Whsie
Yes, minimum distance we know they can go. But as I said, LDA takes a lot of internal. It's not wise use of internal when when you can strech an attack by max of 15 feet and only strech it by 5 feet. You're wasting extra internal right there. And especially in an extreme yang art like XL18Z, it's even more unwise to do such a thing. That's why H7G using 80% most likely is getting to about 11 feet or else he is inefficiently using his internal. And H7G is not a dumb fighter, I'm sure he is smart enough to know how to use his internal efficiently.
Yes, GJ is using 100% of his ability. But is GJ utilizing 100% of INTERNAL everytime? No. I have nowhere the impression that GJ was using 100% internal on everysingle stance and everysingle palm. Yin Tian Zheng's decription on the contrary was different. Every palm used, is using near 100% of his internal.
And.... did I say H7G's distance really would just all of a sudden dissapear into nowhere after 11 feet? I don't think so. I just said GJ stood out 11 feet and started to let the palm wind weaken and then took what's left. What I said is actually corresponding with your sport examples. Ok, I need to make one thing clear. When I say the LDA distance, I mean it as the attack still at full power. So in H7G's case, his LDA is around 11 feet before it starts weakening with distance traveling. Just like a pitcher. There is a point at his throw where his solid and decent power will start to weaken. It will travel farther, but in a weakened stage. My book's LDA is that baseball before it starts weakening. I no doubt admit H7G's palm can travel 11+. But in it's power and strong stage? 11 feet. So according to my LDA, it's 11 feet, even though it may continue to travel an extra 10 something feet in it's weakened stage.
Why would GJ stay outside of 10 feet? That's because anything within 10 feet, the power is too strong. The farther, the weaker the power. If the power is the same the whole time, why not be at 3 feet and block them? Obviously that's because H7G's palm energy at 10 feet is still at its "strong/power" stage. While at 14 feet, it's at its "weakening" stage.
Yes, at a high point, what JY says of course is true. However, I doubt that is the case for GJ/H7G match. Why would H7G constantly be using LDA when he clearly has the higher level in internal/palm energy? I'm seeing it as weapon giving GJ an advantage here. Why did H7G disarm GJ later if GJ could fight equally good or stronger without a weapon? I'm having the impression that GJ's weapon ability learned from the 9 Yin manual is strong enough to give GJ a small advantage.
Yes, GJ only got closer when H7G STOPPED using LDA after approx 162 stances IIRC. That is when H7G realized that his internal is draining quickly and needs to use mind over muscle. Which then, H7G disarms GJ by that trick. And they then started close quarter combat. Of course you're right, just because they're doing close quarter, it doesn't mean H7G's max is 0 ft. However, was there a need for LDA then? No. LDA takes a lot of energy. GJ no longer has weapons, so that = to close combat was more fit for H7G(obviously with better internal/experience/better palm energy). The only thing H7G didn't calculate into close combat was that GJ had ZBT's 2 arts, L/R and Vacant Fist with XL18Z. And as said by H7G, GJ then had a good mixture of both hard and soft, so GJ was able to hold on for a good time.
I know what you're saying in that last paragraph. Usually, it's either LDA or close combat. If you use LDA, you'll try to extend it as far as possible with whatever % of internal you're using in other to get the most of your internal useage. If Close combat, you'll most likely only extend it a few inches at most since extending the attack takes energy quickly. So, what I'm saying is that there's usually no in-betweens. So when H7G did close combat with GJ, he would barely extend it at all if at all. If H7G is does use LDA, he'll extend it as far as possible. With this, I do dare to say 10 feet is most likely around ~80%.