How good a fighter is Ding Chun Chou without his poison and dirty tricks?
Probably more than any other fighter, Ding Chun Chou was reliant upon poisons and dirty tricks to win his fights. Let's say we take away his poisons, his weapons, his followers, and his Fa Gung Dai Fat. If Ding Chun Chou had to just rely on good old fashioned fists and kicks kung fu, how good would he actually be?
Ding Chun Qiu-how good was he and why was he so good at poison?
Now, we knew he was from Xiao Yao Pai and every single Xiao Yao disciple was crazy good (other than Su xinghe). But he didn't particularly had a good showing in fights.
Also, why was he so good at poison? I don't recall Xiao Yao Pai being a sect that dealt heavily with poisons.