Originally Posted by Whsie
I agree with xueilian, you should read the book, you don't get the basics. NOTE, I DID READ THE BOOKS, and I read HSHD 6 times, ROCH 6 times, LOCH 4 times, so say to I'm wrong, it's pretty hard. In addition to what I_fotted said about opinion. A LOT OF WHAT YOU SAID WAS NOT RIGHT BECAUSE I HAVE TEXUAL EVIDENCE. nothing can get better than textual evidence. REASON I said ZWJ better than all except GJ at 50 something is because ZBJ in HSDS right before ZWJ was going fight the 3rd of the 3 brothers from Zhao Ming, ZBJ sensed his internal energy and said, Beside GJ and his master, NO ONE else has reached this level, INCLUDING YG. The evidence is right before the fight against 3 in book 3. Now...., chuan I don't even need textual evidence because YG doesn't have a good one at all. I admit, GJ and ZWJ's chuan, I don't have evidence, but I gave ZWJ the higher mark because ZWJ uses his chuan more than GJ does, making it more useful. You guys can go ahead and argue with me if ZWJ or GJ is better in chuan. Chin kung I said YG is equal to ZWJ because first of all YG has the tomb chin kung which is like top of world, then ZWJ was the only character and yes it SIAD IN THE BOOK that ZWJ's chin kung is the only one that can go with the Bat king. And GJ, he doesn't have a good one. Palm technique: IT SAID IN THE BOOK THAT EAST EVIL SAID "Very nice palm, only my son-in-law's Dragon's 18 Palm can compete with your palm, my Fall Sword palm, loses a level." This is right after YG left the big festival and gave the 3 presents and left with East Evil in 4th book. FIghting ability poltential is a bit more common sense: ZWJ has QKDLY at 7th level which is the west side's most powerful kung fu and it DOES SAY IN THE BOOK. And he got a whole other crap of kung fu that rule like Tai chi, Shalion Dragon claw, 7 hurt chuan, and pratically the other group's main kung fu. With all this, ZWJ has the edge over the other 2, YG has the big disadvantage because he has only one arm..., meanwhile GJ can use L and R thing that can increase outer ability. So YG mainly loses in potential, but fighting instinct, I defitnitely give YG first. ZWJ as I said before was way too soft and he proved it against ZJR in the fight where he could easily won if he wanted to because ZJR's inner kung fu is like 5X weaker, but letted her. GJ has some kindness in his heart, but I think it's also because he's dumber, but still is better that ZWJ. YG is best in instinct because it sAID in BOOK right after YG left and HR talk to her second daughter that YG has some evilness like her father. So YG doesn't let people. This is why I said it's so hard to know what to do. ZWJ>GJ>YG in potential, but YG>GJ>ZWJ in terms of instinct. Now the final one, inner kung fu. The reason I said ZWJ better than YG is because at age 20, he is equal to GJ at 50 (I already said the evidence above somewhere) and we know that YG is about 1 level lower than GJ which is incredible because YG is 34 and GJ is in his 50s. In addition when ZWJ was fighting the 2nd of the 3 brothers in 3rd book of HSDS, (the NARRATOR OR you can say JIN YONG HIMSELF SAID, 9 Yang and Shaoilin's strongest inner kung fu (which is Gold Metal jin) learned to the highest level, these two are the strongest inner kung fu of ALL and it is said that it's hard to see who's stronger. AND you could assume from when it says that it's better than ALL, it includes better than 9 Yin upper and Lonely Swords inner kung fu. Now, you can go ahead and argue with me that Lonely sword man is better than 9 Yin or 9 Yin is better than Lonely Swordsman because I don't have evidence for that. So a lot of these are based on texual evidence and some easy logic from the evidence. If you still say I'm basing this off opinion, then you're seriously have some problem and YOU need to go READ the book. There only a few that I don't have evidence for, and those are chuan between who's best either ZWJ's tai chi or GJ's air min chuan and who has the weaker inner kung fu, GJ or YG. But don't get me wrong, I think all 3 of these people are no doubt top of world fighters.