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    Quote Originally Posted by babyblues
    Sorry, I disagree for 3 reasons.
    No need to say sorry.

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    When Xie Xun noticed Xiao Zhao's strange breathing, he felt puzzled and was wondering could she be ....

    I take this to mean he recognised she had the same style of breathing as Dai Qi Si whose martial arts were from Persia therefore different from China's martial arts. If so, there was no way it could be due to her learning Qian Kun Da Nuo Yee cos Dai Qi Si never learnt it and Persia had lost the skill for a long time.
    Highly possible. But Xie Xun and Daiqisi were old friends, so he should be able to recognize her martial arts style from Xiao Zhao's breathing method. But he only thought it was a "strange type of internal method", and did not seem to relate this to Daiqisi's Qigong.

    In China, Qiankun Danuoyi was a secret art which was practiced by the cult's leader only. Xie Xun's knowledge on this art came from the books he read about Ming Cult history. So it is possible that he does not recognize it from Xiao Zhao's breathing. But he should be able to do so if it was Daiqisi's method instead of Qiankun Danuoyi.

    Of course, it is also possible that Xiao Zhao was training her father's martial art, which Xie Xun was not familiar with.

    Quote Originally Posted by babyblues
    Furthermore, it was a skill that is only to be learnt by the leader of Ming Sect. To learn it secretly, would be punishable, something I think both Dai Qi Si and Xiao Zhao wished to avoid.
    That makes sense, but there are certain thing we must consider:

    - Although Qiankun Danuoyi in the Chinese Ming Cult was an art for the Cult Leader exclusively, nothing indicates that this was also the case in the Persian Manichaeist Cult. The Persian heralds who fought Zhang Wuji all knew certain portions of Qiankun Danuoyi (although extremely watered-down).

    - Please note that for Daiqisi to marry and have children is already punishable by death, so they had nothing to lose.

    - Xiao Zhao is a hereditary member of the Mani Cult, and the daughter of the Holy Maiden, which means she herself is also a Holy Maiden. It seems that she should be allowed to practice this art.

    Quote Originally Posted by babyblues
    Lastly, the skill is very difficult to learn. Yang DIng Tian took years to learn each level of the skill. Zhang Wu Ji learnt it very fast only because of his 9yang zhen jin. Cos the skill needed someone with great internal energy to master it. Which is also why other pple take so long to learn it cos they have to build up their internal energy. Xiao Zhao did not have strong internal energy or 9Yang Zhen Jin to enable her to learn it so quickly.
    I don't agree. It was stated in the manuel that: "For the first stage of training, extremely gifted people will take 7 years to complete, those less gifted will take 14 years". While Zhang Wuji with his abundant Nine Yang power could learn it in a matter of seconds. Normal people like Xiao Zhao should be able to practice the art, as long as they don't try to rush. What I mean to say is, Xiao Zhao can try to practice and to learn the art, but it will take her many years to accomplish even the first level.

    Lastly, I would like to say that it may not be necessary true that Xiao Zhao was indeed practicing Qiankun Danuoyi (she might have been doing her father's stuff) but the chances are quite high, in my opinion.
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    Based on 2019 series, did XZ make another lie to zwj? When zwj asked xz how she know the "Forgetting Each Other" song, xz noted that she heard people singing it. Since it is generally agreed that xz was left with some Han family, the only way for her to know the song is from her mum.

    To think about it, XZ is actually quite talented too. Knowing Persian and military strategy.

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    This is more about XZ's mum - Daiqisi.
    I believe Daiqisi deliberately do not train XZ in martial arts. So that XZ will look harmless in infiltrating the Ming Cult. Does this mean that Daiqisi has this plan since XZ was born?

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    even though Daiqisi didnt stay with her daughter every day, but i believe a tutelage of a few days per year is enough to train XZ martial arts of persian ming cult

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_tumiwa View Post
    even though Daiqisi didnt stay with her daughter every day, but i believe a tutelage of a few days per year is enough to train XZ martial arts of persian ming cult
    Actually, what is XZ's martial arts level? 2 or 3 soldiers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Actually, what is XZ's martial arts level? 2 or 3 soldiers?
    stronger than that, she fought once , at persian ship vs some persians, cmiiw Wuji praise her lightness skill

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    Yeahhh she is quite strong even she lead 5 Flag against ZM soldier when YX Eagle King cs was poisoned perhaps around Cheng Ying or GF level (pre 16 years)..

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    2019: her martial arts skills was hardly shown. Perhaps only once - when she manage to withdraw when YX "attacked" her at Guangming Peak.

    2009: her qinggong is quite good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Actually, what is XZ's martial arts level? 2 or 3 soldiers?
    Probably around Zhu Er level. She was confident enough to wade into the Persians on board the ship, although that may have been desperation too as her mother was held captive. IIRC that's her only practical demonstration of MA in the story.

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    Yeeeep I think Yin Li ZZR (pre 9 Yin) ZM and XZ are "equal" around post 16 years GF IMHO..

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    Before zzr learnt the "bad" 9 yin, always thought the ranking is:
    1. zm
    2. zzr
    3. yin li
    4. xz

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Before zzr learnt the "bad" 9 yin, always thought the ranking is:
    1. zm
    2. zzr
    3. yin li
    4. xz
    Yin Li is better than zzr , they once fought at desert near kunlun mountain, ZZR can only fight for 20+ stances before lost

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    Yeeep ZZR (pre 9 Yin) is the weakest among them IMHO..
    - Zhu Er
    - ZM
    - XZ
    - ZZR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    Yeeep ZZR (pre 9 Yin) is the weakest among them IMHO..
    - Zhu Er
    - ZM
    - XZ
    - ZZR
    Yin-li can win ZM?

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    I would give 52:48 for Zhu Er since her martial art more "deadly" than ZM..

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    Was XZ ever injured at the Bright Peak fight?

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    No she is "hide" her skill and identity at that time..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Western Eccentric View Post
    No she is "hide" her skill and identity at that time..
    Thanks.
    During the Bright Peak fight, did XZ know that ZWJ and ZZR are "somewhat" related?
    Did XZ ever think about "saving" zwj from stab by zzr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Thanks.
    During the Bright Peak fight, did XZ know that ZWJ and ZZR are "somewhat" related?
    Did XZ ever think about "saving" zwj from stab by zzr?
    No..
    Since it's the 1st time she "meet" Wuji

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Thanks.
    During the Bright Peak fight, did XZ know that ZWJ and ZZR are "somewhat" related?
    Did XZ ever think about "saving" zwj from stab by zzr?
    ZZR took the sword and stabbed ZWJ with it in one movement without hesitation or thinking. Only after she'd stabbed him did she realise what she'd done. Later, when Song Qingshu confronted ZWJ for Wudang's duel, XZ tried to shield him, only for ZWJ to reassure her that SQS couldn't harm him.

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