Long lost TVB series from 70s/80s that people have forgotten

[rokko99]

You sound very inexperienced.

The Doc liked her but was never in love with her , theres a difference in case you dont know .

He wasnt shy , he was reluctant , another difference that you dont understand , you not living amongst Chinese people . our values are different , you are out of touch .

Thats why the whole idea was the old hags , she had to push him into marrying .

You fail to understand the difference between really loving someone and keeping them as possessions which is what the old fart was doing to the kids .

And lets not forget , the kids still loved Alex very much evidenced by their joy when seeing him .

what kind of person prevents kids from being with their natural father when they still love each other ??

Anyone that thinks this is love has got a very perverted sense of it .

you also forget that immediately after the accident , the old fart blamed Mich as she incharge of the kitchen and then very agressively insisted the marraige on mich and the doc as payback.

If you think that isnt bitter , then I feel sorry for any kids you might have .

If you understand Chinese facial expressions then you can see from mich's face that she agrees to wed out of guilt as much as liking the doc .

Thats not love thats blackmail , happens all the time in our soceity - you would know of course but then again you cannot since you are so far away .

You are just playing with words and you got the themes upside down .

In this case: love , marriage is both duty and everlasting and it is TO ALEX since they were NEVER divorced .

he was wrongly pressumed missing.

The doc knew this, thats why even you noticed he was guilty .

This is NOT about divorce ! how can it be when there was none , none between Alex and Mich , and none between Doc and Mich.

You cant divorced someone when there is no LEGAL MARRIAGE ! You can't legally marry someone when they are still married to SOMEONE ELSE !

" what the " yourself .

[charbydis]

You sound very inexperienced.

The Doc liked her but was never in love with her , theres a difference in case you dont know .

He wasnt shy , he was reluctant , another difference that you dont understand , you not living amongst Chinese people . our values are different , you are out of touch .

He was shy and had low self-esteem because he thought he was old. Even Michelle felt that he loved her.

You fail to understand the difference between really loving someone and keeping them as possessions which is what the old fart was doing to the kids .

And lets not forget , the kids still loved Alex very much evidenced by their joy when seeing him .

what kind of person prevents kids from being with their natural father when they still love each other ??

They didn't prevent the kids from seeing their father, the kids were at boarding school. They said so when Michelle told Alex what happened, they wante dto settle the matter before letting the kids know. They were ok to let the kids come back to see Alex.

And the kids did love the doctor and his mother, they were initially disappointed, but eventually accepted him as their new father. Do know you how rare it is to have a traditional chinese man accept someone's else children as their own? He didn't only legally adopt them, but also emotionally adopt them. That is love.

you also forget that immediately after the accident , the old fart blamed Mich as she incharge of the kitchen and then very agressively insisted the marraige on mich and the doc as payback.

If you think that isnt bitter , then I feel sorry for any kids you might have .

If you understand Chinese facial expressions then you can see from mich's face that she agrees to wed out of guilt as much as liking the doc .

Thats not love thats blackmail , happens all the time in our soceity - you would know of course but then again you cannot since you are so far away .

It was her son who left the pot on the stove, which caused the accident. She knew that.

Well, did Michelle or her kids get mistreated/abused after getting married in anyway? No! So where is the bitterness? What sort of revenge is she getting this marriage? All the doctors friends say that the two are a happy couple.

I didn't say Michelle loved him, but she certainly had feelings of attachment to him, whether by guilt or gratitude. You don't need to love someone to marry them, only a sense of duty.

You are just playing with words and you got the themes upside down .

In this case: love , marriage is both duty and everlasting and it is TO ALEX since they were NEVER divorced .

he was wrongly pressumed missing.

The doc knew this, thats why even you noticed he was guilty .

This is NOT about divorce ! how can it be when there was none , none between Alex and Mich , and none between Doc and Mich.

You cant divorced someone when there is no LEGAL MARRIAGE ! You can't legally marry someone when they are still married to SOMEONE ELSE !

If you want to talk in terms of the law, then Michelle's legal husband is the doctor. Alex and Michelle were married with a simple ceremony in the country, they were socially a couple, but not legally recognised as one. So there was legally no bigamy involved in this case.

In terms of emotion, old attachments are important, but so are new ones when formed. Thta's lifeit happens all the time, whether emotions towards people, animals or objects.

It's like if suddenly your partner's ex comes back and wants to take back your partner and their children (who you have adopted and loved) on the basis that they were once a family, and that you should automatically give them up even though you have given a lot to them as well. You have the right to be pissed off in this situation if your feelings and emotions have been totally ignored!

[rokko99]

He was shy and had low self-esteem because he thought he was old. Even Michelle felt that he loved her.

You forget the most important bit , he always very wary about the whole thing , look at his face and you will know.

Well actually you dont , because you have lost touch with your own kind completely . Chinese are specialists in non verbal communication.

You being totally removed from Chinese society , I can see where you went wrong .

They didn't prevent the kids from seeing their father, the kids were at boarding school. They said so when Michelle told Alex what happened, they wante dto settle the matter before letting the kids know. They were ok to let the kids come back to see Alex.

Dont be riduculous .

Are you saying that is best for children and their natural parents NOT to be together especially when they love each other .

How pathetic and cruel I might add.

Or is this what so called Westerners think ?? in our society that is NOT acceptable .

Dont see how you can argue this . You live 1000's of miles from East Asia .I live everyday by my people's side , I know what their traditions and practices are . Boarding is NOT high on the list , thats the reserve of westernised Chinese like you .

And the kids did love the doctor and his mother, they were initially disappointed, but eventually accepted him as their new father. Do know you how rare it is to have a traditional chinese man accept someone's else children as their own? He didn't only legally adopt them, but also emotionally adopt them. That is love.

Who cares ? its irrelevant to the story , quite obviously they loved their natural father more and thats what happened in the end . You may not like it , but that is what happened . Too bad .

And you are WRONG ! I see many traditional Chinese couples where the father accepts kids from a previous encounter !

What do you know ?? You do not live in East Asia !!

It was her son who left the pot on the stove, which caused the accident. She knew that.

Well, did Michelle or her kids get mistreated/abused after getting married in anyway? No! So where is the bitterness? What sort of revenge is she getting this marriage? All the doctors friends say that the two are a happy couple.

Not what she know that counts , who she blames that counts . Give you a hint - NON verbal communication .

The second already answered . re-read previous please.

I didn't say Michelle loved him, but she certainly had feelings of attachment to him, whether by guilt or gratitude. You don't need to love someone to marry them, only a sense of duty.

Ah Ah Ah , thats not what you said previously .

And it confirms my point , duty is secondary to love !! and the series backs me up .

If you want to talk in terms of the law, then Michelle's legal husband is the doctor. Alex and Michelle were married with a simple ceremony in the country, they were socially a couple, but not legally recognised as one. So there was legally no bigamy involved in this case.

And if you want talk like you know something , you had better make sure you do know otherwise you end up looking dumb.

Ceremonial marriages are LEGAL in East Asia . If it wasnt that most of the marriages in China would be unrecognised - that of course is ridiculous .

Therofore it is technically bigamous . how dumb . Very rude too especially coming from a Chinese who claims to be an expert in Chinese cutom.

chap hou mo pung , tuk choi mun fah , nei sut lai !

In terms of emotion, old attachments are important, but so are new ones when formed. Thta's lifeit happens all the time, whether emotions towards people, animals or objects.

Who gives a damn.Its irrelevant ,

It's like if suddenly your partner's ex comes back and wants to take back your partner and their children (who you have adopted and loved) on the basis that they were once a family, and that you should automatically give them up even though you have given a lot to them as well. You have the right to be pissed off in this situation if your feelings and emotions have been totally ignored!

Rubbish !

Free choice : let the woman and kids decide ,as it happened they chose Alex and with the Doc's blessing . So what is your problem ?

[Suet Seung]

You forget the most important bit , he always very wary about the whole thing , look at his face and you will know.

Well actually you dont , because you have lost touch with your own kind completely . Chinese are specialists in non verbal communication.

You being totally removed from Chinese society , I can see where you went wrong .



Dont be riduculous .

Are you saying that is best for children and their natural parents NOT to be together especially when they love each other .

How pathetic and cruel I might add.

Or is this what so called Westerners think ?? in our society that is NOT acceptable .

Dont see how you can argue this . You live 1000's of miles from East Asia .I live everyday by my people's side , I know what their traditions and practices are . Boarding is NOT high on the list , thats the reserve of westernised Chinese like you .



Who cares ? its irrelevant to the story , quite obviously they loved their natural father more and thats what happened in the end . You may not like it , but that is what happened . Too bad .

And you are WRONG ! I see many traditional Chinese couples where the father accepts kids from a previous encounter !

What do you know ?? You do not live in East Asia !!






Not what she know that counts , who she blames that counts . Give you a hint - NON verbal communication .

The second already answered . re-read previous please.





Ah Ah Ah , thats not what you said previously .

And it confirms my point , duty is secondary to love !! and the series backs me up .





And if you want talk like you know something , you had better make sure you do know otherwise you end up looking dumb.

Ceremonial marriages are LEGAL in East Asia . If it wasnt that most of the marriages in China would be unrecognised - that of course is ridiculous .

Therofore it is technically bigamous . how dumb . Very rude too especially coming from a Chinese who claims to be an expert in Chinese cutom.

chap hou mo pung , tuk choi mun fah , nei sut lai !

Who gives a damn.Its irrelevant ,


Rubbish !

Free choice : let the woman and kids decide ,as it happened they chose Alex and with the Doc's blessing . So what is your problem ?

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[tvjunkie]

sorry to digress.. i'm not sure if these are the 80s kind of show.. i born in 1985...
but i remember as a kid, i watched some shows.. wondering if you know the titles.
(some may be early 90s show)

1. this show has nadia chan in it -- she acts as some country bumpkin who becomes some hot model and she's torn between two men? i remember her name in here is chor sey or sth like that... stars eddie kwan.. if i'm not wrong, and the other guy is another quite handsome dude...

2. then there's another show which has lau ching wan and viven chow? there's that famous bicycle scene in which she's gonna die at the end and the hankie falls out of her hands?

3. then there's that uncle Rain show.. where there's derrick wan, gallen... gallen's the bad brother.. derrick's the good guy...and the girl is trying to take revenge.... what title is that?

4. and then another show which is about share market and all.. is that the same as the lau ching wan show in no. 2? i remember the opening is like, some rich man (adam cheng?) who wants to commit suicide and forces his 4-5 sons to jump off the building too... cos he lost all his money in the share market..

5. then there's that one with felix wong and that horse racing show -- the one with ada choi with super long hair ...

hahah i'm beginnig to think this show is like in the 90s.. so sorry.. just wanted to check the titles...

[charbydis]

sorry to digress.. i'm not sure if these are the 80s kind of show.. i born in 1985...
but i remember as a kid, i watched some shows.. wondering if you know the titles.
(some may be early 90s show)

1. this show has nadia chan in it -- she acts as some country bumpkin who becomes some hot model and she's torn between two men? i remember her name in here is chor sey or sth like that... stars eddie kwan.. if i'm not wrong, and the other guy is another quite handsome dude...

2. then there's another show which has lau ching wan and viven chow? there's that famous bicycle scene in which she's gonna die at the end and the hankie falls out of her hands?

3. then there's that uncle Rain show.. where there's derrick wan, gallen... gallen's the bad brother.. derrick's the good guy...and the girl is trying to take revenge.... what title is that?

4. and then another show which is about share market and all.. is that the same as the lau ching wan show in no. 2? i remember the opening is like, some rich man (adam cheng?) who wants to commit suicide and forces his 4-5 sons to jump off the building too... cos he lost all his money in the share market..

5. then there's that one with felix wong and that horse racing show -- the one with ada choi with super long hair ...

hahah i'm beginnig to think this show is like in the 90s.. so sorry.. just wanted to check the titles...

Hi!

1. That is "Song Bird". The cute dude was Leon Lai! Nadia was a poor girl who became a singer, but her life was a tregedy and it was roughly based on teh lfie of a true singer in the 30's.

2. That's "Greed of Man"! It is one of my most favourite shows!

3. "Vengeance" I thought Irene Wan did a great job.

4. That's "Greed of Man" too! Same as no 2.

5. That was "Racing Peak".

[charbydis]

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Thanks SS.

Anyway though rokko is gone, i just want to add that since the story took place in Shanghai/Hong Kong during the 1930's, I was talking about the laws back then. Ceremonial marriages were not considered legally acceptable until the mid 1970's. By the 1970's, all ceremonial marriages in Hong Kong had to be legalised with a marriage licence stamped with the British Emblem or become nulled. Men back then used this law to ditch their old wives for new ones. What happens to the laws in Malaysia is pretty irrelevent to the story.

[resident:alien]

i'm lookin' for this older 80's series. it came out the time of "THE DRAGON SWORD." it centered around three shaolin brothers.

one of them used butterfly swords and was flexible and as well as could inflate his body to be like iron. in one point of the story, he hid in a wheel barrel. he got pwned by the main antagonist and his body was hung for a few days until the last brother took him down.

all i can assume is that the setting of this piece was in the CHING DYNASTY.
in one point of the story, they had to hide in a waterfall or something.

it was called "MASTER OF SHAOLIN" or "FISTS OF SHAOLIN" or something...i don't remember the title. does anyone know?

towards the end, only one of them survived. he and the "adopted" son fight the "white haired" antagonist in the last episode.

thanks.

[sirenBebe]

Hmm, classic series that has been long forgotten and is not reissued on vcd/dvds huh? I guess my choice would be:

Blood Stained Intrigue - IMO, its a great classic that is quite underrated plus a memorable soundtrack

Return of Luk Siu Fung - Great fight scenes, actors/actresses, and amazing soundtrack

Guan Shi Yin/Goddess of Mercy/Bodhisattva Avalokiteśvara - Angie Chiu and Simon Yam (touching story and beautiful customes)

The legend of the General who never was and (even though it was reissued on vcd albeit edited) General Father General Son.

Dik Ching; The Conspiracy; The Black Sabre, and the Formidable Lady of Shaolin.

All I can think of for now, but I'm sure I left out many.

[Alzarius]

Oh man I am so angry right now. I just posted a LONG reply that took almost 30 minutes to write, and by the time I posted it, my computer had already logged me out and I lost the whole damn thing!

Anyway, here's a shortened version.

Two lesser known, long, series from the late 1980s I enjoyed were The Price of Growing Up, and And Yet We Live.

The Price of Growing Up (1987, 59 episodes) starred Alex Man and Francis Ng (really liked seeing Francis in a villain's role).

And Yet We Live (1988, 60 episodes) starred Alex Man and Ray Liu, with some appearances by Lam Ka Wah, Lau Ching Wan, Dicky Cheung, Maggie Siu. This also seemed more like 3 20-episode shorter series that were related. Great ending with a very savage rivalry between Alex and Ray.


Now, for those who remember seeing the really old, epic series from the late 70s and early 80s, I have a question for you (series such as House is not a Home, The Giants, Conflict, Good Bad & Ugly, Rainbow, Hotel, Vanity Fair). If you've seen any of these entirely, how would you compare them to one another. Any in particular that are above the others in quality and storyline? I remember seeing some of these when I was a lot younger- too young to have the patience to sit through the entire thing, but remember seeing my mom watch these tapes on TV. I think A House is not a Home was her favorite- she said I was born around the time this came out. If that somehow miraculously made it to a DVD release, I might fork out the big bucks to check it out.

Wikipedia also has a list of every single TVB series broadcast since 1980, with some minor errors. Worth checking out.

Some of the lesser known series I used to enjoy watching as a kid, and want to see again are: On The Edge (Deric Wan, Francis Ng), Drifters (Canti Lau, Frankie Lam, Gigi Lai, Fiona Leung), For Once in a Lifetime (Francis Ng), Saga of the Lost Kingdom (Roger Kwok), The War Heroes (Roger Kwok, Kitty Lai).

And finally, I have a fond memory of the end of 1984, when I was in first grade. It was the time when both Police Cadet and New Adventures of Chor Lau Heung were airing... imagine my excitement to come home each day after school and watching these tapes. It was agonizing to wait for each new tape to show up at the video store.

Good times.

[LuckyMx]

It took me some time to think.

But I think people have forgetten:

Ladies In The House
United We Stand
The Brave Squad
The Feud of Two Brothers
Turn Around And Die
Flame of Fury
Teenage No More
The Under Cover Story

That's all I can really think of at the moment.

[tvbtoday]

I think I shouldn't post this here, but since we are at the topic, does anyone have a list of most of the 80's dramas? It is very easy to find today's series online, but its rare to find the 80's. I am actually very interested to know about the ratings of some of the series back in the 80's, but I doubt anyone has it.

[Hero-I]

Can anyone tell me what is the best method to watch these old series. Do you have to buy the DVDs online or do you raid your parent's old video collection?

[Ken Cheng]

Can anyone tell me what is the best method to watch these old series. Do you have to buy the DVDs online or do you raid your parent's old video collection?

You beg, borrow, steal, or do whatever's necessary.

A number of the most memorable 1970s and 1980s series have been reissued by TVB as VCD or DVD sets. The VCD library is more extensive, but unfortunately, they are generally heavily edited and don't deliver the complete series as originally broadcast on television (or distributed on VHS) back during the 1970s and 1980s. The DVDs offer a more complete, more honest representation of what was actually broadcast back in the day (to say nothing of far superior picture quality), but currently, TVB's DVD catalogue of classic series has some *glaring* omissions: THE BUND and many of Chow Yun Fat's classic series from the 1970s and 1980s have not yet been issued on DVD, and many of us are ripping our hair out wondering what the delay is.

On the positive side, most of the 1980s Jin Yong adaptations are now available on DVD.

[almo89]

Can anyone tell me what is the best method to watch these old series. Do you have to buy the DVDs online or do you raid your parent's old video collection?

Best way to watch some of the old stuff uncut is to raid ur parents VHS. That's how i wathed them over the years.

[i_fotted]

I like to see these coming out as vcd

1] In Love & War - Adam Cheng Chiu Nga Chi Lui Leung Wai & Regina Tsang

2] Taiping Heavenly Kingdom - Felix Wong Lui Leung Wai Michael Tao Teresa Mo
Aaron Kwok Chan Mun Yee Sheren Tang

3] Don't know the English ttle but it's series about male social escoct - Simon Yam
Deborah Tse Ken Tong Chiu Nga Chi

First, sorry for necroing this thread. I know this is silly but I have been searching for the English title of this series for years and have yet to find it. Does anyone know? Come on Ken Cheng, I know you are a huge follower of 80's series!

The reason I want it is because my VHS version is basically unwatchable. Its in terrible condition and I really want to have it for my collection. I really need to get a DVD copy of it but I can't seem to find it.

[Suet Seung]

First, sorry for necroing this thread. I know this is silly but I have been searching for the English title of this series for years and have yet to find it. Does anyone know? Come on Ken Cheng, I know you are a huge follower of 80's series!

The reason I want it is because my VHS version is basically unwatchable. Its in terrible condition and I really want to have it for my collection. I really need to get a DVD copy of it but I can't seem to find it.

Ken Cheng can't help you if the series is made after Oct 1988. You're better off researching the cast member's filmnography or list of series to deduct which one it is.

[Ken Cheng]

First, sorry for necroing this thread. I know this is silly but I have been searching for the English title of this series for years and have yet to find it. Does anyone know? Come on Ken Cheng, I know you are a huge follower of 80's series!

I don't think I've seen this series, but if it was originally broadcast in Hong Kong before the end of 1983, and it was never reissued on VHS, VCD, or DVD since that time, it might never have been assigned an English title. TVB did not give English titles to their series until the end of 1983 (even LOCH '82 and ROCH '83 were originally released without English titles). The practice started in late 1983 with THE FOUNDATION and became standard thereafter. Pre-1983 series (i.e. THE BUND, THE SHELL GAME, etc.) were assigned English titles only when they were rereleased on VHS during the 1980s and 1990s or on VCD or DVD later.

[Ken Cheng]

Ken Cheng can't help you if the series is made after Oct 1988. You're better off researching the cast member's filmnography or list of series to deduct which one it is.

Given the cast list named, this series had to be *way* pre-1988. In 1988, not one of those actors was active with TVB. Deborah Tse, in fact, had already retired from acting years earlier.

[i_fotted]

I'm really surprise this series is not more known. It is such a great series IMO.