Is Pi Xie Jian Fa a level higher than DG9J?

[hentaixp]

i read the novel for many times and realise the yue bu qun studied PXJF shorter time than LCH studied his DG9J yet when they fight , yue seems to nearly win LCH until he repeats his moves.

[CC]

We've discussed this before.

Briefly and IMHO.

1. DG9J is just a foundation. From DG9J, one can specialise. Like how DGKB went from flexible to iron to wooden to no sword.

2. BXJF just skips part of it and specialises in speed.

I think its no better or worse. I also think that if LPZ or YBQ did not restrict themselves to the 72 strokes they could have achieved much more. You can probably combine DG9J and BXJF and get some really cheesy kung fu.

After all is said, of course I'd rather learn DG9J!

[Candide]

So Yue "seems" to win until he loses...and you conclude that his sword techniques were better than LHC's? How logical. Also, LHC didn't fight 100% since Yue was his teacher/father figure. LHC didn't practice DG9J any longer than YBQ practiced PXJF and Yue started out as a much better swordsman than LHC.

Still, because the DG9J in XAJH as performed by LHC didn't have one main stance: Qi-breaking stance, it's impossible to say that PXJF was better than DG9J, just as it's impossible to say that DG9J was better than the original QFBD as the latter was also missing in XAJH.

If QFBD's main idea was to use inner power and speed to overwhelm the opponent despite having flaws, then I believe in a way it's similar to the Heavy Iron Sword technique by DGQB that Yang Guo practiced. If we believe that the DGQB mentioned in XAJH and ROCH are the same person and he invented DG9J in his 20s and Heavy Iron Sword in his 30s, then it means that QFBD = Heavy Iron Sword > DG9J in theory.

[Candide]

I also think that if LPZ or YBQ did not restrict themselves to the 72 strokes they could have achieved much more.

I think because they didn't learn it long enough, weren't taught by real masters (like FQY) and already had it in mind that PXJF > *, they simply learnt it like robots and just performed the technique exactly as written in the manual. The number of strokes shouldn't matter (e.g: 18 Dragon Palms, 72 Kongming Fists, 6MSJ...).

[hentaixp]

i don't mean YBQ's his sword techniques are better than LHC but the PI XIE swordplay as a whole package. btw lhc 's way of sword fighting is very free style.

jin yong mentioned few things about YBQ and LHC's skills

'YBQ study PXJF not as long as LHC's on DG9J"

' only PJXF then able to challenge LHC'


PXJF can be on par or even slightly better than DG9j. in the novel states that , though movements have loopholes , speed can cover them

[CC]

. If we believe that the DGQB mentioned in XAJH and ROCH are the same person and he invented DG9J in his 20s and Heavy Iron Sword in his 30s, then it means that QFBD = Heavy Iron Sword > DG9J in theory.

IMHO, they are the same person. But DG9J should not be something he 'invented' in his 20s or during his flexible sword stage. DG9J should be something he wrote much later, not as a summary of his skills or the 'no sword' stage but as a basic learning foundation to encourage swordsmen to develop their own style in the same way DGKB used styles which suited himself at various points in life.

[Trien Chieu]

Is Pi Xie Jian Fa a level higher than DG9J?

For a talented genius martial artist, DG9J is better. On the other hand, Pixie Jian Fa is better if the practitioner is untalented useless beginner.