Hockey anyone?

[trizz251]

well i don't think the nuks are that bad in the history of draft picks the islanders and flames easily beats that, haha

[Bai Qi44]

well i don't think the nuks are that bad in the history of draft picks the islanders and flames easily beats that, haha

I think the Islanders are pretty damn good. It's just that they give them all away. Heatley, Spezza (would've picked him if they had the pick), Bertuzzi, McCabe, and Lounguo just to name a few. The Flames are another story though.

[trizz251]

well don't you think its a waste for the islanders they could have been so good with all that talent, not to mention they also have raffi torres too

[Bai Qi44]

By me saying "I think the Islanders are pretty damn good. It's just that they give them all away. Heatley, Spezza (would've picked him if they had the pick), Bertuzzi, McCabe, and Lounguo just to name a few.", I meant that the Islanders are good when it comes to drafting. They have a good scouting staff. I don't mean they're good in terms of management. They had one of the biggest morons diguise as a GM in NHL history and he gave away all that talent (well, most of it).

Trizz, I think you should read my posts a bit more carefully cause it seems like you misinterpret some of the stuff I type.

[superkaratemonkey]

kiss, franson was drafted by the predators (surprise surprise, another good dman drafted by them). i also like how nonis is spending more payroll on scouting, the team success comes from their draft and dat explain y the nucks r usually the nhl bottom dwellers. talkin about det's late round steals, dont 4get fedorov, konstantinov and kozlov, all of whom r vital to the det's dynasty in the 90s. 4get about cloths, spend all your money on hockey tix

bai qi, come bak to van and i'll buy u dinner. i cant believe they have espn2 as well. i think they play some nhl games too dont they? either way, thx again, lemme know whenever u wanna redeem your free meal. speakin of kopitar, i was so choked when they pick bourdon over him. especialy now, when we have so much trouble gettin secondary scoring. if the reason they skip over him was becuz of his nationality, i think our head scout should be fired. kopitar was dominating the SEL so who cares where he came from? oh well, im sure other teams r kicking themselve for not pickin anze. at least bourdon is better then price, skille, or setoguchi. but bourdon is lookin out of place in the nhl this yr, he should be sent back to junior. anyways dats another discussion all together. btw, heatley wasnt pick by the islanders, he was picked by atlanta after NYI picked dipetro over him.

trizz, trust me, if u look at the nucks draft history, we are the worst team in the league, or at least close to it. w/ all those high picks (top 10) over the yrs, all we had to show for is neely, linden, sedins, and nedved. none of which are HHOF material (except mabbe for neely, but he played only 2 season w/ us). even expansion teams have more success then us. atl w/ heatley and kovalchuk, minny have gabby, clb have nash. its very depressing lookin back at our draft picks.

[Bai Qi44]

bai qi, come bak to van and i'll buy u dinner. i cant believe they have espn2 as well. i think they play some nhl games too dont they? either way, thx again, lemme know whenever u wanna redeem your free meal. speakin of kopitar, i was so choked when they pick bourdon over him. especialy now, when we have so much trouble gettin secondary scoring. if the reason they skip over him was becuz of his nationality, i think our head scout should be fired. kopitar was dominating the SEL so who cares where he came from? oh well, im sure other teams r kicking themselve for not pickin anze. at least bourdon is better then price, skille, or setoguchi. but bourdon is lookin out of place in the nhl this yr, he should be sent back to junior. anyways dats another discussion all together. btw, heatley wasnt pick by the islanders, he was picked by atlanta after NYI picked dipetro over him.

Well, when or if we're both in Asia at the same time, then I'll cash in on my meal.
They have ESPN2, but ESPN lost their rights to the NHL when the NHL went to OLN / Comcast. So no, there's no hockey on ESPN channels anymore....I think.
Some of those players from the Kopitar draft taken ahead of him seems to pale by comparison, but the biggest surprise of that year is still Ottawa's pick of Lee. A guy who a lot of teams thought would be available in the late 1st round or early 2nd round. I don't think he's done diddly squat yet. The guy was taken 9th overall and I thought Kopitar would be ours for sure, then Nonis takes Bourdon??? I remember his comment that he couldn't believe Bourdon would be available to him at the #10 spot when most scouts around the league didn't even have Bourdon in the top 10. I also don't get Montreal's choice of Price. And about the Heatley pick - oops, my bad. I forgot. Yeah, the Islanders passed up on him and nearly all Isles fans were pissed cause of that.

[Kiss7]

Bai Qi, if you can here me from edmonton, I WUV YOU, thx man or dudette, i'm guessing dudette would just be kiss, haha.

WHL, i haven't followed that since the year kootney won, was comrie was on kootney ice, so was jarret stoll, well stoll wasn't important to me back then, just comrie, cause the oils picked him up the next year, but that ungrateful SOB left us, sigh. well we didn't need him at all.

Tell me about it. I always heard shit about Comrie but I don't know what's the deal with the guy except the fact that he banged Salo's wife from what I heard. And that he messed with Brindamour's wife - oh wait or was that Lindros? :S

And BaiQ44 - HAHA yeahhh Alex Stojanov straight up for Markus Naslund was one of the best trades ever in Canucks history. We clearly won that for sure. haha wowww I had no idea the reason we took him was because he won a fight against Lindros. That has to be one of the biggest bullshit ever. I saw some of Markus' plays as a Penguin and clearly he had the talent in him but failed to blossom in Pittsburgh. I remember reading an article on how he became the player he is today and he said the birth of his first child made a huge impact as it gave him joy after being so worn out in his unsuccessful career so far as a hockey player and overshadowed him as a sense of encouragement with a new set of responsibilities that seems to tell him he has to work hard for his family and make them happy. That became a changing point for him and everything just started to come.

As with Kopitar - he's totally ripping it up as a King now. By the way - is the guy a Canadian? Just rather curious :P I tend to like a player more if he's Canadian for biased reasons. I rather have Kopitar anyday over Bourdon. Had been and still is. But since we took in Luc all I can do is wish the best in him and do great things we would've never imagined he would for the Canucks.

[trizz251]

no no bai qi, i was trying to say ain't it a big waste for the isles to trade away all that talent, they had everything going for them. and after looking at the nuks i feel sorry for you guys, haha. I haven't really checked up the our draft picks but in the mid 90's they were pretty bad, the head scout during that tiem, can't remember name at top of my head, picked everything he think was right and didn't even look at the other players recommended by the other scouts. but now kevin pendergrast and kevin lowe they're like in close contact with the scouts all the time, so yeah we've been able to draft some decent players or we've been able to pick them up through trades b4 they even matured and shown their full potential, like torres and gilbert

Comrie, well yeah the rumors are that he banged salo's wife during the olympic break that's why salo was like garbage during that last stretch.


funny video of nabokov and meaty part, HAHAHA if you guys watched it then i'm sry
http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.c...eoid=955149894

[Bai Qi44]

As with Kopitar - he's totally ripping it up as a King now. By the way - is the guy a Canadian? Just rather curious :P I tend to like a player more if he's Canadian for biased reasons. I rather have Kopitar anyday over Bourdon. Had been and still is. But since we took in Luc all I can do is wish the best in him and do great things we would've never imagined he would for the Canucks.

This is my last post of the night. Usually, I don't posts much on Spcnet, but you guys are making me post more than usual.

No, Kopitar is Slovenian and like Monkey said, so what???? We are the Vancouver Canucks, not the Canadian National Olympic team. I don't care if we don't have a single Canadian player on our team as long as the team can perform well. National pride should not be compared with to individual teams. As long as the players take pride in playing for the city, then that's all it matters. When the Bolts played the Flames in the finals a few years ago, a lot of Flames fans were asking fans of other Canadian cities to cheer on the Flames cause they're a Canadian team. But, in that year, it was the Bolts who had way more Canadian players than the Flames. Bourdon is Canadian, but so what cause Kopitar seems to be the much better player. We should always take the best player available in any draft, not the best Canadian player available. Anyway, I know you said you much rather have Kopitar than Bourdon, but I just wanted my two cents to be heard.

[Kiss7]

I know where you're getting at. Im just saying if a player is Canadian it also provides a much better impression. I always look at the skills, talents and the character of the player first. Anyway you know I totally did not buy into the "because they're a Canadian team!" crap. Not at all. That's why I rooted against the Flames and Oilers during the '04 and '06 Cup run. Well I cheered for the Oilers vs. Canes because I totally could not stand a non-hockey city like Raleigh take the Cup. Ask most people there and their reaction would be "hockey.. what?" Bet half of the fans that donned a Cane jersey in their arena last playoff run probably forgot who these guys are.

Anyway - you should post here often haha you guys are the only people making me continue posting in this forum although this thread is really the only place I go right now.

[Kiss7]

kiss, franson was drafted by the predators (surprise surprise, another good dman drafted by them). i also like how nonis is spending more payroll on scouting, the team success comes from their draft and dat explain y the nucks r usually the nhl bottom dwellers. talkin about det's late round steals, dont 4get fedorov, konstantinov and kozlov, all of whom r vital to the det's dynasty in the 90s. 4get about cloths, spend all your money on hockey tix .

DAMN! I would really like Cody Franson. Great Dman. Great player. Gonna rock for the Preds soon. Do as best as you can and win the Mem Cup with the Giants this year and as soon as you can! Oh definitely how can I forget Sergei Fedorov. Definitely steal of the decade - well at least for them. NOOOO I want my clothes too - I'll try to even it out so I can afford both clothes and hockey.

trizz,trust me, if u look at the nucks draft history, we are the worst team in the league, or at least close to it. w/ all those high picks (top 10) over the yrs, all we had to show for is neely, linden, sedins, and nedved. none of which are HHOF material (except mabbe for neely, but he played only 2 season w/ us). even expansion teams have more success then us. atl w/ heatley and kovalchuk, minny have gabby, clb have nash. its very depressing lookin back at our draft picks.

What about Ohlund? He turned out to be a decent pick. But still like I said earlier - we totally dominate the poor scouting area. And I can't believe in the 1998 NHL entry draft - being 5th overall - we took Bryan Allen ahead of great talents such as the likes of Alex Tanguay, Jonathan Cheechoo, Scott Gomez, Simon Gagne just to name a few.

[superkaratemonkey]

bai qi, i'll probably take a asia tour in winter 07, if ur still there i'd love to meet up w/ u for a meal. as long as ur in one of the countries im visiting . oh yea i cant believe espn lost hockey, seems like hockey belongs to espn since the made dat stupid espn hockey game for ps2, lol. i give ottawa the benefit of the doubt for picking lee, they have some great scouts there, they must've seen something they like about him. remember how ppl were all over them for picking hossa over jones back in 97? nobody even remember who jones is anymore nowadays. but now dat i think about it more, its probably too early to tell if we, or anybody else, messed up by skippin over kopitar. sure hes off to a great start, but to be fair not many players had even played in the nhl yet. i say give it 5 more yrs and let everybody develop and we'll judge whos better. especially for D and G, they take longer to establish themselves. would i like anze on our team? abso-freaking-lutely, but i dont wanna write off bourdon as a mistake just yet.

kiss, ru sure comrie banged salo's wife? i remember how vancouver writers were saying how brown slept w/ mclean's wife, which cause cpt kirk's career to go into the tank. but it was proven to be false cuz brown wasnt even in vancouver when the 'incident' was supposed to have happened. i usually dont take those stories too seriously, cuz they r usually made up to sell paper. and if comrie did slept w/ brindamour's wife, rob would'a beat comrie into a pulp. (lindros not married btw). i realize ohlund was a good pick, but i was referring to all the top 10 picks we had, and how we came out of it w/ almost nothing. if we only mess up on 50% of those picks, we'd be a powerhouse too. haha i remember the scout in det was trying to convince the GM to pick bure after they had fedorov, but the GM refused and pick some stupid canadian goon. imagine the wings w/ all those stars and bure, dat'd be insane.

trizz, ouchie for nabakov! when did dat happen? i remember brodeur had a shot hit him rite there too, and he said his cup was "out of place", and dat he couldnt get up for 5 mins. but he went on to have 4 kids and an affair w/ his sister in law, so i guess he was ok

[trizz251]

forgot to answer someone, lemiuex card was not rookie, i had rookie jose theodore i was planning to sell it then he started sucking, i stopped collecting hockey cards, i dont' know why i just gave them all away except for my lemieux and rookie kariya card, it's right there in front of my computer, haha. He had that really really messed up duck jersey on with wild wing jumping out of the ice, they only used that jersey for like 10 games, i wanna get one, haha

[superkaratemonkey]

u gave away your hockey cards? how generous! but next time ur giving something hockey-related away, plz think of me first ok? lol.
those ducks jerseys r messed up. i hated dat stupid "superman" duck logo. but hey, if u wanna get one go rite ahead, but im not sure if u can even get them anymore.

[trizz251]

no i think they went out of circulations, haha

OMG we're down 4-1 and we came back to beat the sharks 6-4, ryan smyth three goals in 2:18 minutes, how crazy is that, we are crazy

[Bai Qi44]

Tonight, The Nucks and Sharks will be on TVU player - NHL channel. The guy who's streaming this stated so. Btw, the guy is from Texas and he's doing a lot of people a big favour by streaming these NHL Center Ice games.

This is where you're going to find the schedules and what channels will or won't be there. http://forum.viidoo.com/ For hockey, go to the NHL forum.

Btw, I also use SopCast to watch live TVB streamming.

[Kiss7]

I agree - some pretty intense and crazy offensive hockey going in that game. Ryan Smyth - a lot of heart and character. Too bad I hate him.

Yes it's true superkarate. It's been confirmed if Im correct. Ask trizz or any Oiler fan they'll tell you about it. Apparently Iheard that was a reason why Salo's career went sliding downhill real quick and it also caused a lot of locker room problems so once Ryan Smyth got so angry he grabbed Comrie and beat the living hell outta him. Soon later he was traded.

ooh trizz if you have any hockey cards you dont want - you can give them to me too but I'd like to see which players.

[Bai Qi44]

Update... The game on TVU player is actuall on 10065, not 10025 where the Fla-Tampa game was just on.

Wow, now there's two options for hockey!

[trizz251]

kiss is so mean to my oil players, oh wells, haha, i dont' hate the nuks, haha i like them but then oil takes first place in my ranking, haha.

man this guy is so cool, it's a good thing you gave us the program, yesterday's oil game was suppose to be only on PPV in edmonton but thx to this dude, i get it for free

[Bai Qi44]

Oh man,

Bourdon's play tonight is pissing me off even more. Damn you Nonis for not taking Kopitar! Damn you!!! Bullis tries hard, but the guy seems to lack any offenisve ability whatsoever. He can't shoot the puck on net, he can't pass, and he's always going one on three. And Morirson is Morrison. He can use all his excuses of being hurt and all, but he still plays like crap. A few seasons ago, the guy got 67 points playing with Bertuzzi and Naslund. I mean, 67 pts as a center playing with those two when they were at their best??? This team has little talent. I remember in years past, the Nucks could make crisp passes and had a lot of team speed. Many of the players can play keep away. Now, other than Naslund, Sedins, Ohlund, and Salo, none of the players can play keep away. Now, our team speed is so slow.

Now to the good parts. We're lucky it's only 4-3 after two periods. Just where would we be without Naslund and the Sedins, nevermind Lunguo. Salo's absence is already hurting this team, and if we were ever to lose one, just one, of our top three forwards, one of our top two d-men, or our top goaltender for any length of time, we'd be F in the A.