Hockey anyone?

[trizz251]

congrats to nuks another win, they seem to be coming together.

Now about the oilers.... i'm stumped about what lowe is planning to do. we all know he has made some pretty great moves in his time as GM, spacek, samsonov, pronger, pulling off lupul and smid in a trade that we would lose for sure.... sykora, list goes on, he's a pretty good GM. But we're getting nedved back.. now this is really confusing me what is lowe planning to do? nedved's wife didnt' like our city that's why he left. the game kinda really is too much for him so is he really good enough to make our team better? and finally where in the world does he fit in our lineup, the lineups right now is like this

sykora-horcoff-hemsky
torres-stoll-pisani
smyth-reasoner-lupul (this line gets shift around so much depending on lupul's performance and smyth's injury)
peterson-pouliout-jacques.

from what i see nedved could go between lupul and smyth to spark up lupul and pouliout gets sent down and reasoner goes play with peterson which wasn't too bad. but is nedved really that centre to help out lupl, or is nedved really that washed up player in the new nhl? i guess we'll have to wait and see. It would be better off if we got a puck moving d-man.

[superkaratemonkey]

nedved divorced his wife, so she wont be a problem anymore. and nedved had a great stint last time in edm, so its not unreasonable to expect the same this time around. hes cheap and is talented, so he does help the oilers (who is not great offensively surprisingly). pouliout imo needs another yr in the minor to groom his game, so mabbe nedved was brought in to be a short term solution for the 4th line? it also opens up the opportunity to trade horcroff (for that missing dman?), whos been underwhelming this yr. and if nothing happens, nedved provides depth up front in case of injury.
it kinda make sense to me dat oilers pick him up, altho i think they should use wat ever cap space they have left to get an elite dman.

[trizz251]

well, if pouliot goes down to the minors which i don't think would happen over the next few weeks. horcoff won't go cause he's well more of defensive guy he's just been very unlucky. no one questions how hard he works just his numbers. so he's not that bad of a guy. so if you cancel out pouliot's contract and whatever is left in nedved we actually have more room left than we have b4. we have a self-imposed budget of 40M. b4 nedved we had 39M. with nedved in, thoresen out we have 39.2M. if pouliot goes we have 38.3M. Lowe said he can get a couple more million extra from ownership if needed. so we would have about 4M max to get a dman, i think that is more than enough. plus plenty of room under cap space.

the team that scares me with cap space is tampa, three forwards take up half their cap space, now that is ridiculous.

[superkaratemonkey]

i understand dat oiler fans dont wanna give up on horcroff, but hes really the only trade-able player wif a significant value. think about it, hemsky and smyth arent going anywhere, pisani is overpaid, sykora was a UFA signing, stoll/torres/lupul/smith/staios have value 4sure, but they arent gonna get u the #1 Dman u need, and it takes away from your depth to deal them. center is the strongest and deepest position for edm, so trading horcroff make sense.

TB screwed themselves over when they sign richards to dat ridiculous deal. brads a great player, but giving him over $7M per is just nuts. they r in trouble 4sure, but does anybody really care about them?? lol

[trizz251]

OMG, hahahaha that was the funniest thing i ever seen. stephan missed the empty net 2 feet away and we scored. monkey you should really see the replay, that was so funny, on the oilers site.

if tampa ever relocates, fold or go missing i doubt the people in tampa would really care. the people around the league wouldn't really care and well i bet people wouldn't really know or care who won that cup back in 2004!

we're playing the nuks next game, we better not blow this one like we did last one we had a 3 goal lead gave it away and then was saved by the laughing stock of the nhl. then we lost in overtime. well at least the lines got it going again, its our defense they're hanging roli out to dry.

[superkaratemonkey]

haha i saw the hilite, dat was pretty embarassing for stefan. y wouldnt u just shoot the puck into the damn net when ur inside the blue crease!? he was unlucky dat the ice was so chippy and the puck somehow hop over his stick, but he deserves it. stupid hemsky have to come back and score wif less then 1 sec left. haha did u see turco's look on his face after hemsky scored? i bet if the stars lost turco would've beat the tar out of stefan.

however, i think the funniest thing i've ever seen is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdURaDah1PA. wat stefan did was dumb, but he just try to carry the puck into the net. this idiot in the clip did a little head fake at an open net and missed!! now dats a person at the height of stupidity.

good luck tonite trizz, i hope 2 see a hard fought, high scoring, exciting game wif the oilers tonite (and then nucks win, of course). anything less and i'll be piss cuz im payin $12 for PPV haha

OT, did u know dat BC place collapsed?? dats where the bc lions play. the whole roof just caved in. its pretty nuts. im glad nobody got hurt. can u imagine if dat happened during a lion football game!? yikes!

[trizz251]

what happened? can't be too much snow, it doesn't snow much down there does it?

wasn't a bad game but we need work defensively we just suck defending die on roloson pretty badly. but overall not bad at all. don't expect high scoring when it comes to edm vs van or cal.

sedins are really great, when are their contracts over, can the nuks really keep them both?

[superkaratemonkey]

not sure y it collapsed, probably rust or something since the building is pretty old.

i dunno, there are some high scoring games btw the nucks and oilers and flames this yr, also some low scoring game too.

dunno if we can keep them when their contracts over, but we dont have to worry about dat for awhile. they signed a 3 yr contract in the summer and so theres 2 more yrs after this. they r good bargain rite now.

we beat the panthers tonite, meanin dat luongo won his first game against his old team. neither luongo and krajicek played too well, but we'll take the win. next up minny! keep the streak alive boys

[trizz251]

the nuks are on fire, i think they might just take back that division championship banner from calgary last year. good luck guys. and the oils, they gotta really work together as a team -- defensively -- we have 3 lines with chemistry now, that speaks a lot. but our defense is just crap. we have the "czechmate" line with sykora, nedved and hemsky. the line the got put together when smyth and hemsky were out and are still doing great, pisani, stoll and torres and finally this last one is starting to spark, lupul, horcoff and smyth. things look good offensively, goaltending is not bad, but i think roli needs some rest and markannen needs to step it up a little more. defensively we could really use pronger and spacek about now but that won't happen. our young guys have to either step up or lowe is gonna have to make something happen with a trade.

[superkaratemonkey]

so nedveds doing well 4 the oilers? dats not good for nucks fans. i hope they dont find some crazy czech-chemistry and get hemsky on a roll. the coyotes r catchin up 2u guys tho, wat r they like 2 pts behind now? one of edm and col r in danger of dropin out of the playoff. the nucks r doing well now in the standings, but i dont think they r playin too good. they've been outplayed for a few games now, and r getting pts in OT/SO where they r deadly so far. its good we r collecting pts but i dont like the way things r going. the team gotta start outworking their opponents again.

oh btw, rory fitzpatrick didnt made the allstar team. lol, too bad i was cheering 4 him.

[trizz251]

it'd be humiliating to the NHL if rory got in. i'm not saying he's a bad player or anything, but he's just not the generic "all-star" material. i voted for him too, like 5 times. nedved, hemsky and sykora are on a roll, the czech chemistry is kicking in, hahaha. speculations say that lowe may give up either lupul or torres for a puck moving defensemen. if i was lowe, thank god i'm not, i would wait maybe until after the all star break to make a move, cause right now torres is starting to pick it up and lupul seem to be sparking. Right now i dont think lowe wants to give up anyone on the roster cause that could screw things over, he may want to put a package with a couple draft picks and maybe a prospects. for sure mikhnov, schremp, gilbert and dubnyk are off limits, but there are other guys who are expendable. thread getting long, lets see if we can hit 50 pages b4 the all star break

[superkaratemonkey]

if hes not all star material, y did u vote him 5x?? lol.
the problem if u wait till the all star break, or even the trading deadline, is dat the oilers mite fall so far back of the pack that a trade wont help them make the playoff. the west is so competitive, and theres so many 3 pts games (OT/SO) dat if u have a couple bad wks, u go from 3rd to 8th in the west like edm did last month. if u think the oilers r turning it around, then u can afford to wait. but if things r still the same and the team continues to struggle, lowe has to do something soon. even if it means trading lupul or torres.

[trizz251]

well that's why i'm not GM right? haha

Last year around this time we picked up spacek and tarnstrom. so i guess something may happen this year. I think lowe may look into the players with longer contracts instead of picking up loan players like last year. but who knows i'm not GM.

the oil are starting to pick it up 3-2 over sharks, it was a pretty bad game. we got out shot 34-16 and our first 5 shots, 3 of them were goals. wonder if the nuks are really shopping morrison his name has been up for a very long time. ottawa is not a buyer anymore, i think, they took comrie, maybe philly, they're rebuilding

[superkaratemonkey]

we cant trade morrison rite now since we r still in the playoff race. mabbe if we r falling to 10th or something we'll sell off morrison, salo, naslund etc. but rite now we r keepin them. dammit, we lost to the wild. now they r only 2 pts behind us. after our 7 game win streak we r still behind those lame flames.

[trizz251]

this northwest division race is so ridiculous, every team was top of the division for at least 2-3 weeks sometime in this year. I don't see any other division having something like this. our division is so stacked. I think all our teams should have a bye into the playoffs seriously. if we were in other divisions we'd be up there right now, except for the pacific, where anahiem and san jose are tearing it up.

I heard so many rumors of greene and smid getting traded away for guys like foote, mccabe, tucker, van ryan, bouwmeester, pitakanen, boynton, brewer, list goes on. I doubt lowe is willing to give up smid

[superkaratemonkey]

i dont think our divison is "stack" per se, more like evenly matched. if the flames/oilers/nucks/wild end up in any other div, its no gaurantee dat they'll be first. i kinda like our div cuz its competitive, but its kinda sux dat u'll never run away wif the div title.

smid's on the table?? i thot hes a keeper? oiler fans said he was the main piece from the pronger trade (not lupul). im surprise u guys r willing to trade him so early. greenes not gonna get u much tho. if u want bouwmeester or pikanen (not sayin those guys r available) u need to pony up guys like lupul/stoll/hemsky IMO.

[trizz251]

smids not for trade. the rumors are really getting out of hand lately, it went from stuff like pouliout and schremp to lupul, stoll, hemsky, sykora for like niedermayer. I dont know where people are getting their sources from but its kinda farfetchd. hey smyth made the all stars. I'm just wondering do they have to have a player from each team in the all star game, cause i remember one year where the oil had no one in the all star game

[trizz251]

guess what i found

1998- We drafted Michael Henrich over Robyn Regehr
1997- We drafted Michel Riesen over Scott Hannen
1996- We drafted Boyd Devereaux over Derek Morris
1995- We drafted Steve Kelly over Jay McKee
1994- We drafted Jason Bonsignore over Mattias Ohlund
1992- We drafted Joe Hulbig over Sergei Gonchar
1991- We drafted Tyler Wright over Philippe Boucher
1990- We drafted Scott Allison over Martin Brodeur

isn't this awesome, its what we drafted in the 90's can't blame us, we had crappy scouts until 99 when we got pendergrast. imagine if we had better scouts then the oil be pretty good

[superkaratemonkey]

yea some of these rumors are ridiculous. no way a neidermayer is gettin traded. and imo hemsky and stoll arent going anywhere eihter. lots of these rumors comes from the east tho, and they look at our teams roster and make sh!t up. just like those rumors dat the nucks are going after brad stuart. we dont need anymore dman, we need RWs. i dunno, its kinda dumb so dont take the rumors too seriously.

yea i think every team have to have a player at the ASG. dats y guys like jason blake, bill guerin, yanic perrault made the team. and guys like jagr and zubov didnt make it. it kinda sux, but i understand y they had to do it. it generates more interest when each team have a rep at the game i think.

and if think the oilers draft is bad, just look at the nucks in the 90s
90-nedved over jagr, antonski over tkachuk/brodeur
91-stojanov over naslund/kovalev (quinn fixed it with a trade)
92-polasek!? didnt even play a game in the nhl
93-wilson over koivu/bertuzzi
94-ohlund over dingman (ha, just kidding, we finally got 1 rite)
96-holden over morris/briere
97-ference over hossa
98-allen over tanguay/gomex/gagne/regehr

imagine the kinda team we have if we pick the better player half the time.
the ones dat really piss me off is the nedved one, cuz jagr was clearly the better player at the time but they pick nedved cuz he played in the whl.

[trizz251]

well most of the guys back then were either overrated or underrated. can't really blame the scouts. well you can for our team. the head scout at the time spent most of this time in mexico and just picked names out of a hat, literally.

Sometimes the entry draft just comes down to how lucky you are. If you think about it, daigle was first overall in 93 and they said he was gonna be the next IT. but he busted so badly cause ottawa didn't develop him good enough. It's all about circumstances, and what each team does to each player. some players can be thrown straight into the nhl, some players just need a little bit more time in the minors, some just had a great year during their draft year and well some just tough luck, like lindros.