Yang Mi

[mango_cake]

Awesome! *runs to read/watch*

Also a funny (but rather sad) pic a HG/YM fan posted on their weibo (looks like a video capture from the televised event)

" A picture of GeMi together is here, so not easy!"



LOL... (you can see YM in the second row, right-hand side; HG is a few rows back). I feel really bad for the GeMi shippers actually...they get practically nothing. >_<

[patricia n]

I agree...we gemi shipper get absolutely nothing at all! What have we done wrong?

[xiaolong]

LOL... (you can see YM in the second row, right-hand side; HG is a few rows back). I feel really bad for the GeMi shippers actually...they get practically nothing. >_<

Actually back during CP3 days when YM was hanging out with the TR people, she didn't really hang out much with HG right? She was always with LSS. With HG, even when the GeMi shippers were at the most vocal, they just came across as ordinary friends. I don't remember her conversing that much (if at all) with him on her weibo.

[JoleCole]

Actually back during CP3 days when YM was hanging out with the TR people, she didn't really hang out much with HG right? She was always with LSS. With HG, even when the GeMi shippers were at the most vocal, they just came across as ordinary friends. I don't remember her conversing that much (if at all) with him on her weibo.

Same feeling. Even though I came across the GeMi pairing way before FengMi, I was never an ardent fan of this pairing. I guess Liao Zhai and CP3 didn't provoke strong enough feelings for me to root for them as a real life couple. I saw a lot of their Egypt trip pictures together, and always felt it was LSS and YM who shared a much closer relationship. Now, FengMi fanbase is much stronger and vocal in China than GeMi, so the market is stronger for them to collaborate.

Edit: Now i recalled some BTS pictures during CP3. Wallace Huo definitely seems closer to YM than HG. they actually hung out in Beijing for coffee once. I think YM once said she likes to go to Wallace for advice. Recently Wallace Huo started a weibo account and sent messages to YM, FSF, HG, LSS, etc. about it.

[mango_cake]

Actually back during CP3 days when YM was hanging out with the TR people, she didn't really hang out much with HG right? She was always with LSS. With HG, even when the GeMi shippers were at the most vocal, they just came across as ordinary friends. I don't remember her conversing that much (if at all) with him on her weibo.

To be honest I did not really follow any of their offscreen friendships back then (and definitely didn't follow their weibos...did weibo even exist back then? I know there was the sina "blog" but weibo seems to be newer) so I wouldn't know. Perhaps other people can answer that better. I would definitely say that out of the CP3 cast, YM seemed to be closest to LSS. But, it seemed to me like ALL of them got along fabulously--including YM/TY, YM/HG, YM/YH, YM/Wallace, etc. (and of course all the non-YM friendships too!). Actually I went back to watch some of the old CP3 promo events/interviews etc just recently (because I hardly watched any when CP3 was airing), and they all seemed super friendly with each other. I know HG even had a cute nickname for YM (he calls her 丫头), they had quite a few pics together in Egypt, joked around a lot with each other during interviews/BTS, etc. And of course HG made that blog post in support of YM right after CP3 when things started to get really nasty (I assume this was when Karen started her blacklisting but had not yet forbidden any contact between TR/YM, since after that I believe they broke off blog/weibo contact completely).

I never believed the rumours flying around that HG/YM were dating, and I wouldn't call them "best friends" or anything, but they definitely seemed to have a great camaraderie together (not just "acquaintances" or "casual friends" for sure). Their recent interviews support this too--e.g. HG's recent interview where he said he and YM have very good relations (seemed closest to her vs. LYF or Jin Sha, although that might not be saying much) and saying that she was the most fun (out of the 3 girls), praised her as being very pretty and smart, etc. Considering how strained (to put it mildly) things got between TR and YM, I think it's saying a lot that she still seems to have such good relations with YH, HG, and LSS (even more so than with Wallace or TY I might say--and those two didn't go on the Egypt trip either, right?). So I'd say her friendships with all 3 had to have been pretty strong to withstand that. And among her male costars, I still feel like (apart from FSF) she was the most friendly/at ease with HG and YH.

But, I may be biased because I adored HG/YM in LiaoZhai and, before FSF came along, I thought HG was the male costar she had the most chemistry with.

[xiaolong]

Edit: Now i recalled some BTS pictures during CP3. Wallace Huo definitely seems closer to YM than HG. they actually hung out in Beijing for coffee once. I think YM once said she likes to go to Wallace for advice. Recently Wallace Huo started a weibo account and sent messages to YM, FSF, HG, LSS, etc. about it.

Oh he has finally?!! Well, he did have a secret weibo account called Strawberry, LOL.

I never believed the rumours flying around that HG/YM were dating, and I wouldn't call them "best friends" or anything, but they definitely seemed to have a great camaraderie together (not just "acquaintances" or "casual friends" for sure).

Oh, I'm very sure they are (and still) great friends. But the GeMi friendship always had a distinctly platonic vibe, not on fuzzy waters like with FengMi or even HongShi Actually FengMi isn't fuzzy anymore - him grabbing her arm back at the CCTV Awards really confirms it!

[mango_cake]

Oh, I'm very sure they are (and still) great friends. But the GeMi friendship always had a distinctly platonic vibe, not on fuzzy waters like with FengMi or even HongShi Actually FengMi isn't fuzzy anymore - him grabbing her arm back at the CCTV Awards really confirms it!

Ohhhh that's what you mean? Well then I am in complete agreement--like I said I never believed they were dating. Even though at one point I thought, "hey wouldn't it be nice if they were?" (because they were great onscreen in LiaoZhai) it was always in a "sigh, it's too bad" sort of way because I also never got any "more-than-platonic-friends" vibes from them. But I mean, it's rare for that to happen--like I mentioned FengMi is the only actor/actress couple I have actually seriously shipped. Everyone else I just like their friendship! And again, I started liking FengMi from seeing their real-life interactions and only watched Gong afterwards--which is different from usual actor/actress pairs that I semi-"ship". (So Yang Mi, your excuse that we only ship you guys in real life because we love your interaction in Gong is TOTALLY NOT TRUE. Well, at least for me...)

New YangMi interview (with FengMi cuteness!)

Anyways, I just finished watching Yang Mi's episode of "The Story Behind" by HunanTV (recorded back in March but not aired till today). It had lots of adorable FengMi moments, as well as some very touching moments (I admit, I teared up at parts) when she talks about what she's been through (I think she references her blacklisting too, but she is very careful to be very vague about it--she just calls it "some injustices in the industry that I met with"). She is also asked about the plastic surgery rumours again.

All in all, it was a really fantastic interview--and apparently according to people who attended, they actually cut out a lot of parts too! I'm currently uploading to Youtube, but can't help sharing some FengMi highlights:

- Yang Mi admits she pretty much completely humiliated FSF during their "talk" while filming Gong (during which she insulted his acting LOL)...in fact YM says that recently (keep in mind this was back in March so "recently" actually means several months ago) FSF told her that after her rant, he didn't sleep the whole night! LMAO. Poor guy.
- Apart from the impromptu additional kiss FSF added in the Imperial kitchen scene, FSF ALSO tried to add 2 other kisses--one in the scene after the two decide to run away in secret from the palace, and another during the ending reunion scene. Yang Mi says she promptly shot down both suggestions. (You'd think FSF would learn by now, along with the rejected kiss scene back in DHTHK this is #3 already!) However YM admits that after watching the series she thinks FSF was right and that a kiss would have made the ending better... (FSF is probably thinking "Damnit, NOW she agrees!!" )
- Yang Mi also reveals that in their separation scene, FSF spontaneously added the line "Qingchuan, I love you" as it wasn't originally in the script. (The host hilariously says, "Ahhhhh...no wonder I thought it sounded so real!" )

Lots more goodies that I can't remember, I'll post up the vids once they're uploaded!

[xiaolong]

Anyways, I just finished watching Yang Mi's episode of "The Story Behind" by HunanTV (recorded back in March but not aired till today). It had lots of adorable FengMi moments, as well as some very touching moments (I admit, I teared up at parts) when she talks about what she's been through (I think she references her blacklisting too, but she is very careful to be very vague about it--she just calls it "some injustices in the industry that I met with").

Actually, I do remember reading somewhere that it was FSF (even though he didn't know her that well at that time) who persuaded YZ to finally take on YM in MRXJ. She actually nearly didn't get the Xue Jian role as she was being blacklisted. Really great that she did as IMO she outshone every other actress (even Ruby) in MRXJ.

Ironic that help for YM came from people she hardly knew (FSF, YZ), not from more familiar former colleagues e.g. ZJZ, HXM, LYF - but they were prob too busy coping with their own rising stardoms.

[mango_cake]

If that's true I find it incredibly sweet...FSF helped YM recover from the lowest point in her career and life, then in turn YM helped FSF in his career as well (while Gong made both extremely famous it's pretty obvious it helped FSF's career more than YM's--though of course it wouldn't be possible without his own hard work either, and YM wouldn't be as famous if not for the FengMi combined pairing in Gong). And since then they have both continued to be so understanding and supportive of each other (whether work-related or in real life), helping one another become more successful.

"The Story Behind" Yang Mi Interview:

I don't have time to translate it today so for those who don't speak Chinese, sorry--I'm working on the English captions! There's a prelude of various time-traveling dramas at the start so skip to 1:30 for the main part.

Even if you don't watch any other part though I highly recommend seeing the clip of ADORABLE 4-year-old (?) Yang Mi in one of her first TV series, where she plays a young girl with leukemia. (Skip to 0:45 in video #6, the last one.) She performs a song in this clip; apparently, the crew said that they only needed her to sing 2 lines of the song. However, little YM loved acting so much that she would start crying when they told her to stop singing/acting! So they tried to humour her, but even kid YM was a clever little girl and knew they were trying to trick her (because the red "record" light on the camera was off), so she made the director let her finish the entire song! (Haha...) Then the host/audience gets grown-up Yang Mi to sing 2 lines of the song as well...

At the end, there is a quote by Yang Mi that I found very poignant: (it is probably more meaningful after watching the interview--describes her very well)

"Everyone only sees the light that shines from a firefly; no one sees that behind the light, it is furiously beating its wings with all its might." - Yang Mi

"你们只看到萤火虫它发着光，却没有看到它在后面拼命的颤动翅膀." - 杨幂

Original link in youku: http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjk5MzE0OTk2.html

[mango_cake]

JoleCole I just watched the vids you posted of the red carpet and awards ceremony (skipped over the vids before since I was trying to get through all the stuff in the Baidu thread).

And I couldn't help laughing while watching LYF/FSF present...ok, I know I am extremely biased, but boy did it ever feel awkward! I guess I am used to YM and FSF being so familiar with each other, so maybe LYF/FSF's interaction is pretty normal for just good acquaintances...but they kept pausing and checking with the other person because neither one seemed to know if the other person wanted to speak or if they should go ahead (complete with hand movements like "you wanna talk? go ahead...oh you're letting me speak first? oh sure...") And the most hilarious part was at the start--LYF starts praising FSF and doing a bit of promotion for their movie HMY, going on and on, until she runs out of things to say and they kind of look at each other awkwardly, then go "Umm, ok let's just give out the awards now..." LMAO. (Although in general when watching LYF speak it just doesn't feel "natural"; it's like she's putting on a bit of an "air" and trying too hard to say the proper/right thing all the time...which she does--you certainly won't see the media taking anything she said out of context to write up a crazy story!--but it lacks a bit of a "genuine" feel since she's super polite/formal all the time.)

YM/Charlene/Shawn were nearly as awkward too, but at least their's was short and to-the-point. LMAO at the mix-up though--I saw YM mention on weibo that she almost accidentally got Shawn to reveal the "best actor" award or something, how did that happen?! How did she get ahold of that notecard anyways? Poor her...

[xiaolong]

(Although in general when watching LYF speak it just doesn't feel "natural"; it's like she's putting on a bit of an "air" and trying too hard to say the proper/right thing all the time...which she does--you certainly won't see the media taking anything she said out of context to write up a crazy story!--but it lacks a bit of a "genuine" feel since she's super polite/formal all the time.)

LMAO about FSF & LYF! Actually LYF has this really cool elegant feel and presence about her which I really like - she's like a Chinese Grace Kelly. If not for her bad PR/publicist (whoever he or she is) who keeps over-promising/over-boasting, I would be a bigger fan of hers. I'm actually looking forward more to White Vengeance than HP2 as I'm a sucker for beautifully-wrought court romances, though it sounds like it will have a heart-wrenching ending.

[mango_cake]

Ok couldn't help myself, just had to gush about a few more FengMi snippets from that interview that I found EXTRA-adorable:

- Once again Yang Mi says her mom absolutely ADORES FSF--to the point where she actually goes on the internet looking for his information! And apparently she keeps encouraging YM to bring him home: "FSF is good boyfriend material--he's handsome, he has that 'charisma', he gives me a good feeling..."

- When the host says all the fans want her and FSF to date, YM says "yeah, everyone is telling us to be together! Sometimes FSF jokes with me saying 'Look, Mi Jie, everyone wants us to be together, so how about...' and then I cut him off going 'Pffffft!' " Which reminds me of a weibo post back in February--YM posted a pic of the two of them together. FSF replied teasingly: "People say we really look like a couple. Mi Jie how about we consider it a bit..." (At that time Gong was still airing so he could still use the excuse of "getting into character", LOL.) All I can say is...my god, poor FSF, did he ever have to be persistent to win her over! How many times did YM shoot him down or crushingly reject him?? She's lucky she found a guy like him who just doesn't give up, otherwise I would really be worried she can't be "married off" like Du Chun said. Seriously though, I wonder how long it took FSF! XD Previously I was pretty sure they were already an item by YuanXiao in February, based on the way they acted there (onstage and backstage), but this interview, which took place in March, leaves me confused again. YM is just too good at handling the media...she seems like she's telling the truth here when she says they're just friends?? But then again she does those little nervous movements like scratching her neck while talking about it (the way she always does) so perhaps she is lying after all...

- At one point the host suggests, "Why don't we call FSF right now?" And YM gets super shocked/nervous. (Note: this interview was not too long after the awards show during which they called FSF, making him think he was talking to YM only, and making YM super flustered on stage because FSF is treating it like a private phone call. ) YM's expression was priceless when the host goes "I'm joking, was only testing for your reaction, heehee! Why so nervous, YM??" (You go, lady host!) Then YM goes into "Imma-gonna-explain-this" mode but I think she makes it worse...once again she does the whole "FSF will say whatever he wants! I need to keep him in line!" explanation. What kind of explanation is that?! There should be nothing to hide if you guys are "just friends"! And she repeatedly says FSF often "chou feng!" (Yes, this was the previously unaired interview I mentioned before, that took place not long after FSF's weibo post about "What are you doing, 'chou feng' again??" being the sweetest/most enchanting thing he's heard. ^_^ Ok, I'm convinced without a doubt now, he's talking about Yang Mi there. )

Actually LYF has this really cool elegant feel and presence about her which I really like

Yes, that's true--I know what you mean about her "elegant/cool" feel. Personally it's a bit too "distant/remote" for my liking though, if that makes any sense...but a lot of people (especially in China) do like her because of that more "conservative/reserved/traditional" feel.

[mango_cake]

All the FengMi awesomeness from the Hua Biao awards has got me on a roll! I just uploaded a recent (Aug. 11) media report done by CCTV (yes, the official TV station of China FengMi shippers). They were reporting on the new HZGG actress/actor for Ziwei/Er Kang but somehow managed to insert a segment on FengMi--basically saying that FengMi is more awesome. LOL. (See, this proves that even if an onscreen couple wants to be cute together for promo purposes...it's not gonna work unless they ACTUALLY adore each other in real life! Look how awkward the Ziwei/Er Kang actors are with each other--they even have to be "coached" on how to look sweeter together! Meanwhile even when FengMi is trying their hardest to keep it under wraps--well at least YM is, dunno about FSF hehe--they can't help but reveal their true feelings via all those cute looks, jokes, and actions!)



(Disclaimer: I don't mean to "put-down" the new HZGG drama or their actors by posting this--I just thought it was a funny report that CCTV did! Since I haven't watched much of the new HZGG, I don't really have much of an opinion on these new actors for Ziwei/Er Kang yet.)

[JoleCole]

All the FengMi awesomeness from the Hua Biao awards has got me on a roll! I just uploaded a recent (Aug. 11) media report done by CCTV (yes, the official TV station of China FengMi shippers). They were reporting on the new HZGG actress/actor for Ziwei/Er Kang but somehow managed to insert a segment on FengMi--basically saying that FengMi is more awesome. LOL. (See, this proves that even if an onscreen couple wants to be cute together for promo purposes...it's not gonna work unless they ACTUALLY adore each other in real life! Look how awkward the Ziwei/Er Kang actors are with each other--they even have to be "coached" on how to look sweeter together! Meanwhile even when FengMi is trying their hardest to keep it under wraps--well at least YM is, dunno about FSF hehe--they can't help but reveal their true feelings via all those cute looks, jokes, and actions!)

Wow, I didn't even realize there's actually a coach to direct them how to pose/give each other eye contacts during promotional events. It seems soo "staged." I'm actually sorta shocked. I expected something more freelance and not so "dictatorial." At max, the coach or agent or whoever should just verbally gives them advice on how to carry themselves, but not literally jumps in and tilts your head to a certain angle! I think most FengMi's sweet gestures we see are spontaneous since they are captured on the spot interviews. I know FengMi's often matching outfits (i.e. Hua Pi II press conference black attire) were picked out by their agents. No wonder FengMi's agents get along so well! They probably went shopping together a lot!

LYF/FSF award presentation video- I didn't even have a chance to watch it. Even though I provided the link, but the video just wouldn't stream on my computer But I read people's comments on how awkward they were and their lack of "默契“ or rapport during the presentation. I think we often take FengMi's rapport for granted and assume most FSF/YM's co-stars should have some level of rapport with him/her since FengMi are pretty experienced actor/actress (of course not as much as FengMi) to generate the necessary "onscreen presence". I remember FengMi once said that whenever they have each other by their sides, they feel more confident and at ease. Meaning, FengMi can tackle the world together!

[mango_cake]

I know, I was really surprised too. I didn't know this kind of thing goes on. In fact, the chinese entertainment industry as a whole is truly much crazier and scarier than I expected...e.g. only after watching many of YM's interviews did I realize how much connections matter in the showbiz. Either that, or you have to get really lucky if a certain director/producer "discovers" you and decides to promote you...otherwise you have to slave away for years before making it big, no matter how talented you are. And on the flip side, if you accidentally offend one of the bigwigs in the industry, you are pretty much done for. If it weren't for YM's hard work/dedication (though of course she still needed a bit of luck to end up in YZ's MRXJ/Gong), she would've been completely buried with no chance of making it anymore, despite her talent. I have also heard of many "groups" who are paid to "professionally" stir up rumours (on the internet, or on various media channels)--whether it's to blacklist someone OR to promote them. No wonder so many chinese viewers are so sick and tired of "chao fei wen" (actors stirring up rumours). YM really got the short end of the stick before--I personally knew a girl who said she extremely disliked Yang Mi (this was about 1.5 years ago). I was surprised and asked her why, did she not like a character that YM portrayed? The girl replied that no, she hadn't actually seen ANY of YM's projects! And she didn't even know why she hated Yang Mi, she just did (she ended up saying "I guess it's just that she looks like one of those...you know"--pretty sure she was implying that she looked "b*tchy" or something). I was shocked but didn't bother to try to change her mind. Now I realize that the real reason is probably because she heard through the grapevine all the nasty rumours that were started about YM and, maybe even subconsciously, it made her have negative feelings towards YM. It's just fortunate that recently, due to her popularity, the blacklisting has come to light and people realized YM was actually the victim here, not the perpetrator of those rumours. I mean, personally even as someone who liked YM, I never knew about all the shady underground stuff that went on until very recently (before, I just chalked it up to regular crazy tabloid behaviour).

Anyways I guess this is why many people were convinced FengMi was also another "staged" relationship to promote Gong...but honestly I think most audiences can tell when something is fake vs. genuine--no matter how good of an actor/actress you are. And even if you're able to keep it up at first, over time there's no way you wouldn't get annoyed/frustrated at having to always act "couply" with someone you don't actually have feelings for. (But FengMi only seem to be getting cuter and cuter as time goes by! There's a reason why they became so popular after Gong despite it being the general consensus that it was a terrible drama! )

[patricia n]

Actually, I do remember reading somewhere that it was FSF (even though he didn't know her that well at that time) who persuaded YZ to finally take on YM in MRXJ. She actually nearly didn't get the Xue Jian role as she was being blacklisted. Really great that she did as IMO she outshone every other actress (even Ruby) in MRXJ.

Ironic that help for YM came from people she hardly knew (FSF, YZ), not from more familiar former colleagues e.g. ZJZ, HXM, LYF - but they were prob too busy coping with their own rising stardoms.

how unfortunate it is that none of her friends could help her but it took mere acquaintances to help her. i'm glad someone finally did and i thought yz chose to cast her to spite karen? i didn't realize that he too was concerned about who karen chose to blacklist seeing how much they dislike each other.

anyhow, i never thought that hu ge or yang mi were anything more than friends in real life. i just adore their chemistry in liao zhai and continue to wish to see them cast as a pair despite their terrible storyline in cp3. if anything, i cried for injustice when i finally saw cp3...injustice for us ge mi fan. we were hoping for something better especially after their sweet but brief and tragic romance in liao zhai.

[xiaolong]

Yeah, I guess YZ's MRXJ was the main deal-breaker for her. To think she nearly didn't get the Xue Yuan role - and that's my absolute favourite role of hers! OK, much as we dislike YZ's mediawhoring ways, shameless copying and "lei" productions, at least I haven't heard of him blacklisting anyone, though he has slammed people online and made (empty) threats. I can imagine Ruby thumbing her nose up at him since she also got Hunan TV airing rights for her QSHF.

e.g. only after watching many of YM's interviews did I realize how much connections matter in the showbiz. Either that, or you have to get really lucky if a certain director/producer "discovers" you and decides to promote you...otherwise you have to slave away for years before making it big, no matter how talented you are.

Yeah, with LYF it is probably majority connections, but she does have drop-dead beauty. With Eva Huang Sheng-Yi...errr...apologies if there are any fans of hers here, but I keep seeing her cast as this great out-of-this-world beauty in her series/movies, though honestly I think she has a horsey face? So I can only attribute it as majority connections.

One really talented pretty actress who still seems so under-rated is Jiang Xin, the ultra-cool Mu Wan Qing in TLBB2003. Yuan Hong is still under-rated - hopefully things will get better for him post-Tangren.

[Ren Ying Ying]

I highly doubt Karen actually has the power to "blacklist" anyone (outside of TR productions, since she's the boss). TangRen is not THAT influential in the business.

I don't doubt she probably does badmouth YM if she comes up in the conversation, but I do doubt she would actually spend the effort to go around trying to ruin YM's career. From a business point of view, ruining YM's career does not help TangRen one bit (and would actually hurt TangRen because it will affect XJ3's popularity).

Frankly, I'm pretty sure Karen & Yuzheng's battle happened independently of YM.

[mango_cake]

how unfortunate it is that none of her friends could help her but it took mere acquaintances to help her. i'm glad someone finally did and i thought yz chose to cast her to spite karen? i didn't realize that he too was concerned about who karen chose to blacklist seeing how much they dislike each other.

From what I heard, YZ and Karen were actually on OK relations before. According to YZ (yes, not the most reliable person so take it with a grain of salt), he saw a still of YM from CP3 (the one of her with her chin in hand and staring into space) and was instantly impressed by the "feel" she gave off--thinking she really suited the Xueyuan role. However, then Karen phoned him to tell him not to use YM because she was a terrible person to work with, had a bad personality, was not professional/hard-working, etc etc. (I get just thinking about it, if this is actually true...) However YZ ended up deciding to cast YM anyways (perhaps this is where FSF came in--I was under the impression he first recommended YM to Yu Zheng for Suo Qing Qiu but at the time YM could not make room in her schedule for it), And then YZ said he was flabbergasted by how professional and hard-working YM actually was (complete opposite of what Karen told him); he was so impressed he later decided to write the Qingchuan character especially for Yang Mi in Gong.

Relations between Karen and YZ really broke down after:
1) YZ cast Yang Mi despite Karen's attempts to stop him
2) the Yuan Hong/MRXJ fiasco
3) perhaps most importantly of all, YZ deciding to produce "Gong" in direct competition with TR's BBJX, and on top of that casting Yang Mi as the lead (this is ultimately what led to the huge catfight--with Karen saying YZ is plagiarizing BBJX without buying the rights; then this escalated into attacks on each others' characters, and, worse of all, both of them using Yang Mi in the middle to attack each other--as you can imagine, causing YM's reputation to take another hit).

I highly doubt Karen actually has the power to "blacklist" anyone (outside of TR productions, since she's the boss).

I don't doubt she probably does badmouth YM if she comes up in the conversation, but I do doubt she would actually spend the effort to go around trying to ruin YM's career. From a business point of view, ruining YM's career does not help TangRen one bit (and would actually hurt TangRen due to XJ3's popularity).

Frankly, I'm pretty sure Karen & Yuzheng's battle happened independently of YM.

I did mention before that I don't think Karen has that much power in the industry; Yang Mi for sure has not only offended Karen with her direct/straight-talking ways so the "big-scale" blacklisting I am not attributing to Karen. However, I do feel, after reading various tidbits, that Karen is responsible for at least a part of it (how big or small, we will never know of course).

YZ/Karen's feud definitely had a lot of factors--including Yuan Hong, BBJX "plagiarism", etc. However, Yang Mi was definitely a factor as well--and she was probably the actress that suffered the most from their catfight. You can't deny that YM definitely gained a lot of haters after the YZ/Karen situation.

[ByTmE]

Hm, I don't think I've ever heard Yang Mi's speaking voice before. It's...sort of surprising actually and childlike.