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    I have no problems with either change. Changing the rapist's name to protect the reputation of a real and honorable historical figure is the right thing to do. I doubt anyone can come up with an argument against it. People, I'm going to do it so there!
    Rest easy Athena.

    Maybe Athena, Bangs and myself should go back through this thread and delete a few posts to keep the thread from becoming a monster.
    Darn browser won't let me completely delete a post!
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    Do you guys sometimes think that Guo Jing is a lot smarter than he believes himself to be? He's so in awe of Huang Rong's innate intelligence that he consistently underestimates his own.

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    Huang Rong is extremely intelligent, but Guo Jing is wise. That is what a lot of readers believe, wisdom is far better than intelligence. Because Huang Rong is sometimes a bit too paranoid due to her brilliant intelligence.

    And thank you for changing Yin Zhiping into Zhen Zhibing.
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    Parting is all we know of heaven
    And all we need of hell.

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    I see that our No. 1 veteran translator is back.

    So am I... just for the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcyFox
    I see that our No. 1 veteran translator is back.

    So am I... just for the weekend.
    Good to hear from you IcyFox! Can you march in step with your platoon section yet?
    How often are going to have weekends off? You and I will have to arrange a method for you to update the Reading Room chapters. It sure would be nice if you could get rid of the background color since it would make reading the book easier for the fans. I guess that's SPCNET's call.
    Take care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athena
    Huang Rong is extremely intelligent, but Guo Jing is wise. That is what a lot of readers believe, wisdom is far better than intelligence. Because Huang Rong is sometimes a bit too paranoid due to her brilliant intelligence.

    And thank you for changing Yin Zhiping into Zhen Zhibing.
    I added the 3rd edition section that you PM'd me that explains why Yin Zhiping fades from the scene and Zhen Zhibing assumes a more important position in the sect.
    Thanks Athena

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesG
    Good to hear from you IcyFox! Can you march in step with your platoon section yet?
    How often are going to have weekends off?
    My marching is OK, I guess. My company put me in the drill squad and we would be competing with other companies in the Best Drill Squad competition. Usually I would have every weekend off unless we have to go train in the jungle or we have to do guard duty or something.

    About updating the Reading Rooms, we can discuss via PM or e-mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcyFox
    My marching is OK, I guess. My company put me in the drill squad and we would be competing with other companies in the Best Drill Squad competition. Usually I would have every weekend off unless we have to go train in the jungle or we have to do guard duty or something.

    About updating the Reading Rooms, we can discuss via PM or e-mail.
    Drill Squad! Does that mean you get to wear a white band on your cap, white rope piping, white gloves and puttees. Gad, I can remember that from my Air Cadet days.
    Viper Company...the 'Scarlet Serpent Deity' should be your mascot!
    I'll send you an e-mail about the updates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesG
    Drill Squad! Does that mean you get to wear a white band on your cap, white rope piping, white gloves and puttees. Gad, I can remember that from my Air Cadet days.
    Viper Company...the 'Scarlet Serpent Deity' should be your mascot!
    I'll send you an e-mail about the updates.
    Eh... no. I'll be wearing combat fatigues and an army jockey cap. I can't understand why a drill squad has to dress like that for a drill competition. We're not even allowed to wear a beret. Anyway we'll be competing against the infamous Ninja Company. I wonder who will be chosen as their mascot.

    About the updates, I have a better idea. Check your PM. Thanks.

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    I want to help with editing!! I'm very good at spotting mistakes like these... so can I help? Id there anything I can do?


    About the name thing... I think it'll be a good idea to link up the names, but for Xiao Long Nu? She's one the weird people where her surname is the one in the middle so I think you shouldn't join the name "Longnu" together. I think it's just easier and to avoid confusion and actually seperate her name. So it's Xiao Long Nu, and her surname is "Long" and it doesn't look like her surname or name would be "Longnu".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bao
    I want to help with editing!! I'm very good at spotting mistakes like these... so can I help? Id there anything I can do?
    Just go ahead and help. No one would mind an extra hand on deck.

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    Okay! So... where do I start? I don't want to edit something that someone else is doing or already done. So where should I start?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Bao
    Okay! So... where do I start? I don't want to edit something that someone else is doing or already done. So where should I start?
    Starting from the back would be a good choice. I don't think anyone has done much work there yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcyFox
    Starting from the back would be a good choice. I don't think anyone has done much work there yet.
    Starting from the back? What do you mean by back? As in the chapters around the end? I think I'll start around there... Okay! Sounds good to me!

    I hope you're enjoying your week-end IcyFox, sir! Have fun in the military! And thanks for taking the time to visit us. *salutes IcyFox*
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    1. Yin Chaoying’s intelligence was unbeatable; she actually did find a way using unorthodox techniques.
    2. He heard Zhao Zhijing say, “Apprentice brother Yin, there is no point in denying it. I’ll go and tell Martial Uncle Qiu, and let him judge.”
    3. He heard Yin Zhi Pin trembling saying, “What rubbish; just how could you know what I think?”
    4. The two of them were the highest skilled fighters of Quanzhen’s third generation, one, Zhen Zhibing, was Qiu Chuji’s finest disciple, and the other, Zhao Zhijing, was a disciple of Wang Chuyi.
    5. Zhao Zhijing laughed and said, “Apprentice brother Yin, your dream lover and that man over there have just done dirty things;
    6. But years ago Yin Chaoying had invented techniques to counter Quanzhen’s, every stance matched every stance.
    7. He could not have guessed that years ago Yin Chaoying had thought of how the enemy would react, and developed techniques to counter any changes,
    8. Yin Chaoying wanted to defeat Wang Chongyang’s techniques completely,
    9. Li Mochou chuckled and said, “Good Sha Dan, you’ve got balls!”
    10. The Jin king knew where he was, and sent tens of martial artists to kill him; in the end they were all captured or killed by Wang Chongyang. Not one returned. Later, that Jin king died suddenly, a new king was appointed, and left him alone, and so the two ‘Dragon Snapping Stones’ were never used. When Wang Chongyang left the tomb, he told Ancestor Grandma about all of the tomb’s booby traps.
    11. The “Jade Bee Needles” are a skill of the Ancient Tomb sect; years ago Yin Chaoying had two lethal projectiles
    12. This projectile was too venomous, Yin Chaoying rarely used it; after her middle age, her kung fu had reached the acme of perfection, and so there wasn’t a need to use them at all.
    addendum 1. Her surname is Lin not Yin. So it should be: Lin Chaoying’s intelligence was unbeatable; she actually did find a way using unorthodox techniques.
    addendum 2. He heard Zhao Zhijing say, “Apprentice brother Yin, there is no point in denying it. I’ll go and tell Martial Uncle Qiu, and let him judge.” Now it should be: Apprentice brother Zhen, there is no point in denying it.
    addendum 3. He heard Yin Zhi Pin trembling saying, “What rubbish; just how could you know what I think?” After using changing the name to Zhen Zhibing, it should be: He heard Zhen Zhibing trembling saying......
    addendum 4. The two of them were the highest skilled fighters of Quanzhen’s third generation, one, Zhen Zhibing, was Qiu Chuji’s finest disciple, and the other, Zhao Zhijing, was a disciple of Wang Chuyi. Personally, I think we should emphasize the status of Zhao Zhijing too. So, I think the other, Zhao Zhijing, was the head disciple of Wang Chuyi.....would be better.
    addendum 5. Zhao Zhijing laughed and said, “Apprentice brother Yin, your dream lover and that man over there have just done dirty things; Apprentice brother Zhen.....
    addendum 6. Should be Lin Chaoying not Yin Chaoying.
    addendum 7. Should be Lin Chaoying not Yin Chaoying.
    addendum 8. Should be Lin Chaoying not Yin Chaoying.
    addendum 9. I thought:"You have the balls." sounded a bit off. Couldn't we replace with something like:"You're very brave......"
    addendum 10. The Jin had already proclaimed themselves emperor by that time, so I think replacing king with emperor would be better. Furthermore the Southern Song emperor subjected himself to the Jin empire. It would be illogical for an emperor to pay tribute to a "king." So, changing it to emperor would be advisable.
    addendum 11. Should be Lin Chaoying not Yin Chaoying.
    addendum 12. Should be Lin Chaoying not Yin Chaoying.
    Last edited by Athena; 03-24-06 at 06:18 AM.
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    I made it...

    CHAPTER 6:

    (Her arms were as if there were engaged in a flying dance, her palms formed a thousand hands and a thousand palms, no matter how hard the sparrows tried to fly away, they couldn’t escape from the boundary of her palms.)

    they

    (Yang Guo knew what she thinking when she didn’t reply and said, “It doesn’t matter if I can’t beat him now, in a few years, I’ll be able to beat him.)

    she was thinking

    (Eventually, Wong Chongyang failed in his quest to repel the Jin and resided in the Tomb of the Living Dead; he had nothing to do and refined his martial arts.)

    Wang

    (Xiao Longnu said, “This is the room where Wang Chongyang refined his skills, at the front he practiced his palms, at the back his practiced his fists, at the east side he practiced with swords and the west side he practiced projectiles.”)

    he

    (Xiao Longnu stretched out her hand and pointed upwards and said, “The essence and core of Wang Chongyang skills is up here.”)

    Wang Chongyang's skills

    (That’s called each mountain has its own peaks.)

    peak

    (Yin Chaoying’s intelligence was unbeatable; she actually did find a way using unorthodox techniques.)

    Lin

    (Yang Guo looked the thickets; they had red flowers and green branches, and were beautiful to look at.)

    looked at

    (On the odd levels of the “Heart Jade Manual” the practitioner has to ‘Yin Jin’ (forcing yin to the limit), the person on the even levels has to ‘Yang Tui’ (Drawing back the yang).)

    *Im confused, its supposed to be Jade Heart Manual right?

    (Yang Guo heard this clearly, his was alarmed, and forced the chi that was in his ‘dan tian’ out of his body, and breathed in three times and stopped practicing.)

    he

    (Zhao Zhijing chuckled and said, “The thoughts in your heart, of course I don’t know them, but when you mumble in your sleep, is there anyone to hear it? When you write Xiao Longnu’s names repeatedly, is there anyone to see it?”)

    name

    (Xiao Longnu moaned by didn’t say anything.)

    but

    (Zhen Zhibing moved his to block it.)

    *his what?

    (But years ago Yin Chaoying had invented techniques to counter Quanzhen’s, every stance matched every stance.)

    Lin

    (He could not have guessed that years ago Yin Chaoying had thought of how the enemy would react, and developed techniques to counter any changes, no matter how good, clever or lethal, any of highly skilled Quanzhen fighters were.)

    Lin

    I need some rest, jet lag attack..... second half tomorrow.
    To be honest I hate the chapters where XLN's violator is mentioned and focused in the story.

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    I would like to help out here but unfortunately I have LoCH translation duties...

    Anyone wants to approve my deferment and let me join in here?

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    I posted a message for Da Bao in another thread earlier (I think it was RoCH Chapter 33) before I read this thread.

    Da Bao, if you want, you can start with LOCH too, so we'll just lest JamesG in charge of ROCH to maintain uniformity later on. As I said before, you can even re-translate the 'mess' as Sunnysnow suggested.

    IcyFox, I am counting on you ... Just kidding. Do whatever you please, if you want to work some more on ROCH, that's OK, just let us know. On LOCH, please check your email.
    foxs

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    Default Yin/Lin

    Sorry Athena,
    I actually did fix the Yin / Lin Chaoying error but didn't replace the version posted. I've done so now and that'll make you happy and me too since Bangs won't keep coming across it.

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    CHAPTER 6 2nd half read:

    (Zhen Zhibing arms became numb, he moved back three steps and circulated his chi to protect the important pressure points in his chest.)

    Zhen Zhibing's arms

    (They wanted to find out more about their opponents techniques before doing anything.)

    opponent's

    (Zhen Zhibing stopped, and thought secretly thought that here they were, two seniors attacking a young boy, how ridiculous did they look?)

    secretly thought

    (Zhen Zhibing said, “Yang Guo, you want to kill us but that will not be possible; but your Gu Gu can relax, if the one named Yin reveals a single word about what happened today, I will immediately kill myself to apologize.)

    Zhen *the rapist is no longer Yin Zhiping

    (He then shouted, “The one called Yin, what use is cutting off your fingers? If you cut off your head, then I’ll believe you.”)

    Zhen *same as previous correction

    (Yang Guo said ‘ah’ and was alarmed, he secretly thought, “So the Gu Gu’s injury is very serious.”)

    Gu Gu's

    (These same words were spoken two years ago, Yang Guo had forgot them long ago, and didn’t expect that she would bring it up again now.)

    forgotten

    (After a while, he stomach growled.)

    his

    (Yang Guo thought that this person must a member of the Quanzhen sect, and was likely to a disciple of Sun Bu’Er.)

    must be a
    to be a

    (The Taoist priestess went up to him and asked, “Hey, what is the way to Chongyang Palace?”)

    where

    (Yang Guo hated everyone in the Quanzhen sect, so he pretended to blind and dumb, and pretended not to hear.)

    to be blind

    (She took out two silver ingot’s [small boat/shoe shaped silver castings of a few ounces known as Yinzi] from her pockets, two ‘ting’ noises were heard as they collided with each other, she said, “Little brother, if you follow my instructions then I’ll give these ingots to you.”)

    ingots

    (Yang Guo was curious, he opened his eyes wide, drooled and made himself look even more look a stupid person, he shook his head incessantly and said, “I can’t; I can’t lend my family’s hatchet. If dad finds out I’ll be punished.”)

    like

    (He was very looking comfortable; she couldn’t stop from being angry, loosened her arm, and tossed him on the ground and angrily shouted, “Are you feeling happy?”)

    looking very

    (He loudly shouted, “Ai ya, ai yo, there’s a rock here. The hatchet is ruined; father is going to beat me. I…I need to go back home.”)

    *no correction, I just find it funny this "ai yo" thing. How does one say it anyway?

    (She had carried him all along the way, and he felt that she the scent of orchids around her, leaning against her was quite relaxing.)

    she had the

    (She thought that he was handsome, she was secretly quite pleased and quietly said, “That Sha Dun is not completely stupid; he knows that I’m good looking.”)

    Dan

    (Hong Lingbo saw that their sect’s highest arts were within her grasp, she couldn’t wait, she chuckled and took out silver needles from her pocket, and said, “Martial Uncle, you recognize these needles, if you don’t give the “Jade Heart Manual” to me then don’t blame for being impolite.”)

    blame me for

    OOooops lunch time...... be back shortly.

    EDIT: Im back, time to finish this....

    (Although it was a small, the gold was heavy and allowed it to be thrown over a long distance.)

    was

    (Xiao Longnu waited, and then rotated the brackets on the wall, ‘zha’ ‘zha’ two sounds were made as the wall slowly opened to the left.)

    two ‘zha’ ‘zha’

    (Her swords chopped and slashed, ‘chi’ ‘chi’ ‘chi’ as several stances was unleashed.)

    were

    Im done. and welcome back Icyfoxy!
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