INTRODUCING the latest SURVIVOR extravaganza

[Han Solo]

Do the categories and their martial arts make sense? Did I miss anything super important? Please note that I cannot possibly include every worthy martial arts in this list -- only the super important ones. :-) Off the top of my head, I did not include Tianshan 6 Yang Palm or Zhemei Hand, b/c there are already 6 Xiaoyao Pai kung fu represented.

NO!!!

PALM
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11+
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 11
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 10
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 10
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 10

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 10
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9+
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 10
9 Yang Shen Gong 10
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 10


And where is BMSG and XWXG?

Han SOlo

[TommyH]

NO!!!

PALM
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11+
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 11
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 10
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 10
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 10

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 10
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9+
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 10
9 Yang Shen Gong 10
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 10


And where is BMSG and XWXG?

Han SOlo

PALM
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 12+
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 10
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 10
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 10

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 10
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 9-
9 Yang Shen Gong 10
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 10

[kidd]

Thanks for the suggestion, but Qing dynasty kung fu are rather weak compared to the rest. I don't think I can justify including any of them.

Shen Zhao Gong can revive the dead, unlock locked Pipa bones (u r supposed to lost all your kungfu and internal energy when your Pipa bones are locked), break off chains.

[PJ]

And where is BMSG and XWXG?

Han SOlo

Beiming is in the Energy Manipulation category, which will surface in round 2. Xiao Wuxiang Gong is one above the one that you voted for.

[PJ]

Tommy: you don't need to quote the previous poster when you vote.

PALM
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 12
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 10
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11+
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 10

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 10
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 8-
9 Yang Shen Gong 10
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 10

[PJ]

Shen Zhao Gong can revive the dead, unlock locked Pipa bones (u r supposed to lost all your kungfu and internal energy when your Pipa bones are locked), break off chains.

OK. Which category do you think it belongs? Other Exotic?

[The_One]

PALM
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 12
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 10
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 9-

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11+
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 8
9 Yang Shen Gong 10
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 10

[PJ]

NO!!!

Well, we never really saw 6 Yang palm in action, did we? Nor do we know much (anything) about it. I think it would be kind of weird to include it. Same for Plum-gripping hand. But, I will consider it.

[Demonic Swordsman]

PALM
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 13+
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 10
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 9

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 8
9 Yang Shen Gong 11+
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 10

[The_One]

Well, we never really saw 6 Yang palm in action, did we? Nor do we know much (anything) about it. I think it would be kind of weird to include it. Same for Plum-gripping hand. But, I will consider it.

Didn't Hu Juk use it? Or was that only adaptions and it didn't happen in the novel?

[kidd]

OK. Which category do you think it belongs? Other Exotic?

The most suitable category is Internal Energy. But the voting has already started there. So, no need to put lah. With the way more popular YJJ, 9Yin and 9Yang in there, I don't think SZG will win anyway.

I just want to clarify that Shen Zhao Gong doesn't suck as much as u think just because it's a Qing Dynasty kungfu.

[kidd]

PALM
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 13
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 10
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 9

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 8
9 Yang Shen Gong 11
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 11+

[danshu_]

PALM
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 13
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 11+
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 9

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 8
9 Yang Shen Gong 11
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 9-
Ode to Gallantry art 11

[PJ]

By popular demand, I have decided to include 2 more Xiaoyao Pai arts: Tianshan Liuyang Palm and Tianshan Plum Grip Lock, both in the PALM category (now revised as PALM/HAND). No surprise, Xiaoyao Pai is dominating this game.

PALM/HAND
Tianshan 6 Yang Palm 10
Tianshan Plum Grip Lock (Zhe Mei Shou) 10
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 13
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 11
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 10+

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 8
9 Yang Shen Gong 11
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10+
Ode to Gallantry art 11

[PJ]

Although Glacial Ice Palm may be the weakest kung fu here, I just can't vote against something that sounds as nice as Han Bin Zhang.

[PJ]

Here is an advertisement on the powerful Xuan Ming Divine Palm:

方东白走到赵敏身前，躬身说道：“主人，小人无能，甘领罪责。”赵敏对他全不理睬，说道：“今日瞧在明教张 教主的脸上，放过了武当派。”左手一挥，道：“走罢！”她手下部属抱起东方白、秃头阿二、阿三的身子，向殿 外便走。张无忌叫道：“且慢！不留下黑玉断续膏，休想走下武当山。”纵身而下，伸手往赵敏肩头 抓住。
　　手掌离她肩头尚有尺许，突觉两股无声无息的掌风分自左右袭到，事先竟没半点朕兆，张无忌一惊之下，双掌 翻出，右手接了从右边击来的一掌，左手接了从左边来的一掌，四掌同时相碰，只觉来劲奇强，掌力中竟挟着一股 阴冷无比的寒气。这股寒气自己熟悉之至，正是幼时缠得他死去活来的“玄冥神掌”掌力。张无忌一惊之下，九阳 神功随念而生，陡然间左胁右胁之上同时被两敌拍上一掌。张无忌一声闷哼，向后摔出，但见袭击自己的乃是两个 身形高瘦的老者。这两个老者各出一掌和张无忌双掌比拚，余下一掌却无影无踪的拍到了他身上。杨逍和韦一笑齐 声怒喝，扑上前去。那两个老者又是挥出一掌，砰砰两声，杨逍和韦一笑腾腾退出数步，只感胸口气血翻涌，寒冷 彻骨。两个老者身子都晃了一晃，右边那人冷笑道：“明教好大的名头，却也不过如此！”转过身子，护着赵敏走 了。
玄冥二老和杨逍、韦一笑对掌之时，已先受到张无忌九阳神功的冲击，掌力中阴毒已不到平时二成，但杨韦二人兀 自打坐运气，过了半天才驱尽阴毒。

Eight-armed Swordsman Fang Dongbai bowed to Zhao Min: "Master, I suck; I am unable to complete your order." Zhao Min did not even look at his servant: "Out of respect for Ming Cult Leader Zhang Wuji, we will let Wudang off the hook." Her servants and her started walking away. Zhang Wuji yelled: "Wait! I won't let you leave until you give us the cure." As he was speaking, Wuji's hands reached for Zhao Min's shoulder.

When Zhang Wuji's hands reached within 1 feet of distance from Zhao Min's shoulders, he suddenly felt 2 silent palm-generated wind rushing towards him from 2 directions. He was not prepared to take on this sudden surge of power, but he had no choice, so he took it with both of his hands. When the 4 palms clashed, Wuji felt a deadly cold force enter his body; it was the same poisonous Xuan Ming energy that had made his life miserable..... The Xuan Ming Elders used 2 palms to meet Zhang Wuji's 2 palms, and yet there was a third palm that landed on Wuji's body. Yang Xiao and Wei Yixiao, outraged, dashed forward. With another palm, the Xuan Ming Elders had forced Yang and Wei back several steps while feeling their blood gushing through the chest and the unspeakable cold penetrating through their bones. The 2 elders chuckled: "Everyone says great things about the Ming Cult, but it seems to be overrated."

Before clashing palms with Yang Xiao and Wei Yixiao, the Xuan Ming Elders were weakened by the palm power with 9 Yang Shen Gong, and the level of toxic energy in their palms was less than 20% effective. Nevertheless, it took Yang Xiao and Wei Yixiao half a day to purge the toxic energy caused by Xuan Ming Divine Palm

[PJ]

PALM/HAND
Tianshan 6 Yang Palm 10
Tianshan Plum Grip Lock (Zhe Mei Shou) 10
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 13
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 10
Sad Palm 11
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 11+

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 7-
9 Yang Shen Gong 11
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 11

[The_One]

PALM/HAND
Tianshan 6 Yang Palm 10
Tianshan Plum Grip Lock (Zhe Mei Shou) 10
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 13
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 9-
Sad Palm 11
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 11

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 7
9 Yang Shen Gong 12+
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 11

[Demonic Swordsman]

PALM/HAND
Tianshan 6 Yang Palm 10
Tianshan Plum Grip Lock (Zhe Mei Shou) 10
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 13
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 9
Sad Palm 11
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 10-

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 6-
9 Yang Shen Gong 12
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 11

[slchan0]

PALM/HAND
Tianshan 6 Yang Palm 10
Tianshan Plum Grip Lock (Zhe Mei Shou) 10
Flaming Blade Palm (Huo Yan Dao) 11
18 Dragon Subduing Palms 14+
Beach Blossom Luo Ying Shen Jian Zhang 11
Iron Sand Palm 9
Sad Palm 11
Xuan Ming Divine Palm 11
Glacial Ice Palm (Han Bin Zhang) 10-

INTERNAL ENERGY
Yi Jin Jing 10
Xiao Wu Xiang Gong 11
Ba Huang Liu He Wei Wo Du Zun Gong (Everywhere I Reign Supremely) 9
9 Yin Zhen Jing 10
Dragon Elephant Sutra (Long Xiang Bo Er Gong) 5-
9 Yang Shen Gong 12
Sunflower Volumes (Kui Hua Bao Dian) 10
Ode to Gallantry art 11