Jin Yong Rewatched His Adaptions How Many Times?

[TommyH]

How many times do you think the wuxia writer Jin Yong rewatched each of his novel adaptions?

[Suet Seung]

We don't know, why don't you write him a letter or email to ask him.

My guess on TVB's HSDS2000, he only watched it once to decide that he never want to have TVB make anymore of his novel's adaptations because it was so horrible.

[TommyH]

We don't know, why don't you write him a letter or email to ask him.

My guess on TVB's HSDS2000, he only watched it once to decide that he never want to have TVB make anymore of his novel's adaptations because it was so horrible.

Haha! Tell me his e-mail then I'll e-mail him. I'm going to flood his inbox ! Haha... but the themesong to HSDS2000 is pretty good (my opinion anyways).

[K2Grey]

I believe he banned some TV company from adapting LOCH after the worst JY adaptation ever, in which if the characters, places, and kungfu all had their names changed, no one would be able to tell it was based off LOCH. This banning is significant since JY did not ban anyone after the DGSD adaptation in which the entire second half of the story was changed, involving Duan Yu, Xu Zhu, and Xiao Yuanshan fighting Murong Bo, who had learned Yijinjing and killed the Sweeper Monk, and other strange alterations.

[strife_au]

I believe he banned some TV company from adapting LOCH after the worst JY adaptation ever, in which if the characters, places, and kungfu all had their names changed, no one would be able to tell it was based off LOCH. This banning is significant since JY did not ban anyone after the DGSD adaptation in which the entire second half of the story was changed, involving Duan Yu, Xu Zhu, and Xiao Yuanshan fighting Murong Bo, who had learned Yijinjing and killed the Sweeper Monk, and other strange alterations.

lol killed the sweeper monk...

[yittz]

I honestly don't get why they change the storyline. You'd think if they do, they will do it logically, but noooo they have leave so many loopholes it made watching them unbearable. Specifically talking about the latest HSDS with AlexSu.

There are two types of audience
Those who have read the book
Those who haven't.

People who haven't don't give a damn about the storyline - so why not fed them the better, more logical one ie the novel plot.
People who have read the book, imo mostly get pissed off that they had to contend with some incompetant producer mucking up the plot, trying to make it fresh but end up making it nonsensical.

[Swordwiz]

What were the major changes in HSDS 2003?

[yittz]

What were the major changes in HSDS 2003?

Like they were no fight scenes. All the supporting cast were not old enough and there weren't enough of them. The logic was flawed regarding the Persian - ZZR's crime. The Yang Xiao affair was ok, except the part where MJ went into the cult by herself and three disciples. Didn't make sense that where YinTianZheng can purge the XuanMing Zhang from his son but Z3F can't from ZWJ.

There're too many to list.

[strife_au]

Like they were no fight scenes. All the supporting cast were not old enough and there weren't enough of them. The logic was flawed regarding the Persian - ZZR's crime. The Yang Xiao affair was ok, except the part where MJ went into the cult by herself and three disciples. Didn't make sense that where YinTianZheng can purge the XuanMing Zhang from his son but Z3F can't from ZWJ.

There're too many to list.

ahhh no fight scenes... thats suckful, I reckon they need to make a massive budget production on HSDS

[douggilmour]

Like they were no fight scenes. All the supporting cast were not old enough and there weren't enough of them. The logic was flawed regarding the Persian - ZZR's crime. The Yang Xiao affair was ok, except the part where MJ went into the cult by herself and three disciples. Didn't make sense that where YinTianZheng can purge the XuanMing Zhang from his son but Z3F can't from ZWJ.

There're too many to list.

Actually, there were some fight scenes. They were funny.

[darkchoki]

too much weird special effects and zooming of camera in fight sequences...
so in the end, what audiences got to see are face. hand. face. hand.

[The_One]

JY doesn't watch any of the adaptions. He pays people to do that for him.

[yittz]

Actually, there were some fight scenes. They were funny.

Indeed. 5 Kunlun elders with their fist embedded in ZWJ's stomach while ZWJ is rotating in circles. That doesn't seem like fighting to me its more like Merry go around.

[K2Grey]

Is this the one where when the Xuan Ming Elders hit people in the first episode they would turn into statues of ice in really bad special effects? And where when ZWJ was taking those 3 blows from Miejue, before taking the third one, he was rotating in a circle in the lotus posture with a huge 9 Yang volume in the background and characters were flying off it?

If so... that's 2003? I thought it was made in like, 1960 or something ;0

[Suet Seung]

Like they were no fight scenes. All the supporting cast were not old enough and there weren't enough of them. The logic was flawed regarding the Persian - ZZR's crime. The Yang Xiao affair was ok, except the part where MJ went into the cult by herself and three disciples. Didn't make sense that where YinTianZheng can purge the XuanMing Zhang from his son but Z3F can't from ZWJ.

There're too many to list.

OMG! What I couldn't get over was Yang Xiao tonguing JXF when he kissed her in the forest! How disgusting! A little bit too much for wuxia tv.

[0-0-0]

I believe he banned some TV company from adapting LOCH after the worst JY adaptation ever, in which if the characters, places, and kungfu all had their names changed, no one would be able to tell it was based off LOCH. This banning is significant since JY did not ban anyone after the DGSD adaptation in which the entire second half of the story was changed, involving Duan Yu, Xu Zhu, and Xiao Yuanshan fighting Murong Bo, who had learned Yijinjing and killed the Sweeper Monk, and other strange alterations.

he killed the sweeper monk?

that's pretty funny... lol... i would watch that scene just for amusement

[0-0-0]

What were the major changes in HSDS 2003?

there were a lot of changes...

first there was the beginning with the mongolians and Xuan Ming... i don't think that was in the book

then there was the whole E Mei walking up to Yin Tian Zheng...

Yang Xiao and Ji Xiao Fu's story was also changed a fair bit... maybe for the better. I liked some of the changes.. i'm pretty sure in the book, YX gave JXF something in her food or drink and then while she was asleep he kinda got her pregnant...

A lot of stuff that was hidden in the book as a mystery was revealed throughout the series. Like in the book, ZZR's actions weren't revealed till the end, while in the series, it follows her through out the thing

Also lack of fighting... cartoon looking special effects...


i don't think HSDS was anywhere near as bad as 2000 version. Gosh, Charmaine was just terrible... i think that's the one where ZM's three wishes were changed as well

[yittz]

Is this the one where when the Xuan Ming Elders hit people in the first episode they would turn into statues of ice in really bad special effects? And where when ZWJ was taking those 3 blows from Miejue, before taking the third one, he was rotating in a circle in the lotus posture with a huge 9 Yang volume in the background and characters were flying off it?

If so... that's 2003? I thought it was made in like, 1960 or something ;0

Yes. The best fighting scene out of the whole movie was the very first where horses flew (yes feet off ground) around kicking wuxia fighters, and XM elders turning veryone into ice. There were cyclones and pretty glitter thrown by random fighters, while ZCS and YDY did some sword slices that instantly killed them.

[Siven]

I doubt he makes a habit of watching TV adaptions of his shows. It can't be good for blood pressure.

Then again reading some of the changes he keeps making to accepted classics also causes bodily discomfort.

[K2Grey]

Which ones? Wang Yuyan getting put in a more negative light? 8 Huang 6 He Wei Wo Dun Zun Gong turning into some kind of "Bu Lao Gong" ?