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    Default Wuxia Authors other than Jing Yong and Gu Long?

    Why everyone only talks about Jin Yong's and Gu Long's work (with other authors' popping up once in a blue moon) here? Is the other wuxia writers' work really that bad?

    Any recommendation of good wuxia stories by other authors?
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    Huang Yi's works are not bad... Da Tang Shuang Long Zhuan, Fan Yun Fu Yu, and Xun Qin Ji is really a good read... not really sure about Liang Yu Sheng's works though... only read his White haired maiden story... don't know if its nice...

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    liang yu sheng is not bad. i read his white hair maiden and seven swords. it is quite gd except that it has too much of history in his book

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    Huang Yi's older novels (A Step to the Past/Xun Qin Ji, Cloud and Rain/Fu Yu Fan Yun, etc.) have loads of "inappropriate marterials" in them, that's why I don't like them very much, despite their good plot. Twin of Brothers/Da Tang Shuan Long Zhuan, on the other hand, keeps the "inappropirateness" at a minimum, and the story is really good.

    I've read a few of Liang Yu Sheng's novels. Basically speaking, they are almost identical to Jin Yong's novels in terms of characters and moral values expressed. They tend to get boring after a while, but I still like them quite a lot.

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    What about Wo Long Sheng [臥龍生] and Wen Rui An [溫瑞安]?

    Wo Long Shen is the writer of Xin Xian He Shen Zhen [新仙鶴神針] while Wen Rui An is the writer of Jing Yan Yi Qiang [驚豔一槍].

    Btw, why are all the recommended novels here TVB/movie adaptations? Don't you guys read anything that have not been adapted into movie/series?
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    Can u tell me more about those two authors and their works pls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Han Solo
    Can u tell me more about those two authors and their works pls?
    Are u talk to me? Sorry, can't tell u anything about 臥龍生 and 溫瑞安 because I know nothing about them and have never read their books. 仙鶴神針 and 驚豔一槍 are both TV adaptations. That's how I know about these two writers, because I go and look up who wrote the original story of the above mentined adaptations.

    But I've look them up for u. Here are their works and their mini biographies.

    Wo Long Shen : http://www.oklink.net/zjzj/030.htm
    卧龙生

    作者简介:

    台湾武侠“四大天王”及“三剑客”之一,在古龙之前被称为“武侠泰斗”。本名牛鹤亭,河南镇庭人,1930 年生。幼年从军失学,但自幼喜读武侠小说,颇有才思。他1955年由军中退役,闲来无事,在友人怂恿下开始 学写武侠小说。1957年以祖居南阳卧龙岗取笔名《卧龙生》一炮打响。1959年《飞燕惊龙》出世,便奠定 了他在台湾的“武侠泰斗”地位。他的作品,早期是取法于旧武侠“北派五大家”而以“通俗趣味”大受欢迎;1 965年以后,改走“半传统半新潮”路线,作品却渐不如前。
      卧龙生对武侠小说发展的贡献,主要有三个方面:第一,他成功地运用了还珠楼主的神禽异兽、灵丹妙药、玄 功绝艺、奇门阵法,郑证因的帮会组织、风尘怪杰、独门兵器,王度庐的悲剧侠情,朱贞木的奇诡布局、众女倒追 男等等,成功地博采众长而融于一体,开创了既具有传统风味又具有新境界的新时期武侠小说风格,成为一代“武 林正宗”。第二,由他倡导以武学秘籍引起武林风波以及正邪大会战的情节结构,成为60年代台湾武侠的普遍模 式,影响至为深远。第三,他的“武林九大门派”说法和“争霸江湖”及武林排名的主题,虽然稍晚于金庸的《射 雕英雄传》,却使它在武侠小说中普遍推行开来。
      卧龙生小说真品如下:
    《风尘侠隐》《惊鸿一剑震江湖》《飞燕惊龙》《铁笛神针》《玉钗盟》《天香飙》《无名箫》《绛雪玄霜》《素 手劫》《天涯情侣》《天剑绝刀》《金剑雕翎》《神州豪侠传》《寒梅傲霜》《玉手点将录》《金凤剪》《飞铃》 《八荒飞龙传》《无形剑》《金笔点龙记》《烟锁江湖》《摇花放鹰传》《花凤》《春秋笔》《幽灵四绝》《剑无 痕》《天龙甲》《黑白剑》《飞花逐月》《剑气洞彻九重天》《金剑丹心》《新仙鹤神针》
    Wen Rui An: http://www.wenyi.com/literature/wuxia/wra.htm
    温瑞安小传

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    Who wrote Tian Can Bian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Chen
    Who wrote Tian Can Bian?
    It's by someone called Huang Ying [黃鷹/黄鹰].
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    Haha, any chance of a synopsis in english?

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    Tian Can Bian = Reincarnated? Srry, not familiar with Manderin.

    Who wrote the stories about Sit Yan Quai and Sit Ting San?

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    Quote Originally Posted by i_fotted
    Who wrote the stories about Sit Yan Quai and Sit Ting San?
    I think those are legends. Dunno whether it's based on real life people or not though.
    The series about them is like the Yang Family series and the Justice Bao series. They are not wuxia novel adaptations, but based on folk legends.
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    So, no other recommendation?

    Ok, thanks to everyone who has given their feedback and recommendation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AresInvincible
    I've read a few of Liang Yu Sheng's novels. Basically speaking, they are almost identical to Jin Yong's novels in terms of characters and moral values expressed. They tend to get boring after a while, but I still like them quite a lot.
    I heard LYS's novels are more female-centric, i.e. he wrote more complex female characters and his stories are more focus on the heroine. Is it true?
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    Yeah, in some of his stories, females are the main protagonists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AresInvincible
    Huang Yi's older novels (A Step to the Past/Xun Qin Ji, Cloud and Rain/Fu Yu Fan Yun, etc.) have loads of "inappropriate marterials" in them, that's why I don't like them very much, despite their good plot. Twin of Brothers/Da Tang Shuan Long Zhuan, on the other hand, keeps the "inappropirateness" at a minimum, and the story is really good.
    yeah, can't stand those parts. i like da tang too, the setup of the 2 characters in the beginning was good but towards the end, it got a bit long winded so i skipped some chapters. what i really like was the historical setting of the novels. the pre-qin and pre-tang eras, which jin yong did not cover.

    Quote Originally Posted by AresInvincible
    I've read a few of Liang Yu Sheng's novels. Basically speaking, they are almost identical to Jin Yong's novels in terms of characters and moral values expressed. They tend to get boring after a while, but I still like them quite a lot.
    i've read many of his novels but can't say i really like any of them as a whole. the parts don't always add up to make a good whole novel. his writing style is also more traditional, i guess, compared to jin yong, and the plot not as interesting.

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    Beside Jin Yong, I prefer Liang Yu Sheng. His usage of history make it quite intriguing to read, IMO.

    In term of "wu," he is the only guy by far that I have read is able to bring out the true essential of sword. Jin Yong mainly focus on bare-hand combat, if his characters were to use weapon, it probably going to be something like the Heavy Iron Sword, wooden stuffs, or even a needle. Even for weapons the like the Heaven Sword, Gentleman Sword, etc, they don't seem to possess any value. It just a sharp weapon, in Jin Yong's eyes, that can be toss away at anytime. While the weapon in Liang Yu Sheng seemed more to be 1st class cuting-edge weapon.
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    I have not read much of liang yu sheng. I have only read the tian shan series (bai fa mo nuu, sai wai ying xiong and qi jian). Besides that, are there any other books that u recommend?

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    I don't really read much of Liang Yu Sheng, since not much is translated into my language. But others mainly recommended Ping Zhong Xia Ying Lu, I believe.

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    What do u guys think of the works of Wo Long Sheng? Any opinion?
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