O.K. we all know qiao/xiao feng is the most unbeatable exponent in jin yong universe. his HL18Z is the most powerful of all it's users. but XF/QF primary skills aren't from the begger sect but from shaolin. in fact, XF doesn't only uses HL18Z when fighting. he uses serveral fist, claws and other techniques. the only techniques of begger's clan he seems to knows is HL18Z and dog beating skill. he was famous before becoming the chief of begger's clan so his skills must have been high well before learning HL18Z and DBstick. doesn't this show that shaolin is the best school of jin yong. XF learned pure shaolin skills, no freaky incidents where he ate a funny inner power increasing mushroom or a big flying hog taught him special skills or amazingly weird type kungfu manual. this should be evidence that shaolin skills are the best in jin yong; even 9yin/9yang, without snake blood & bladders and icy bed, magic peaches and fire frogs and whatever. nobody hit XF's level at his age(pre to mid thirties) without something to give them a boost. XF was the only one to do it with pure martial arts. the LOCH/ROCH greats took fifty yrs to hit his level.