The arrow-shooting faceoff in ROCH: what does it prove about GJ vs. GWM?

[Ken Cheng]

Gwok Jing and the Golden Wheel Monk simultaneously shot arrows at each other during the first great confrontation at the gates of Seung Yeung Fortress. These were the results:

1. Golden Wheel Monk's arrow deflected and shattered by Gwok Jing's first arrow (first of three shot simultaneously by Gwok Jing).

2. Gwok Jing's second arrow breaks the Golden Wheel Monk's bow.

3. Gwok Jing's third arrow downs the Mongol flag.

What needs not be proven is that Gwok Jing was definitely the better archer (equal to Jebeh). What do the results say about how Gwok Jing and the Golden Wheel Monk compare in inner power and overall martial arts mastery? What can we conclude from that exchange of arrows?

[Whsie]

Overall speaking, I can't really say much because JY even specifically mentioned in that area that because GJ was taught by that archer master(forgot his name), his arching accuracy, power, speed are all the best.

[CC]

It proves that GJ could have killed GWM (he could have aimed for GWM instead of GWM's bow. If GWM can't move his bow out of the way, he can't move his body out of the way).

Therefore GJ > YG.

[Swordwiz]

Since GJ was taught by Jebeh, I think he may be able to use his inner power more effectively in archery. We know that the golden wheel monk is very strong in the inner power department, so I believe the reason that he was beaten by GJ's arrows is purely because of the archery skills of GJ's.

Therefore GJ > YG.

Ahhhh, oh no *prepares for change of topic*.

[Whsie]

I agree with Swordwiz, it's that GJ has better archery skills.

Btw, CC, how does that show GJ>YG?

[ChronoReverse]

He's joking to rouse up the rabblerousers =P

[Ken Cheng]

In compensation for Gwok Fu's chopping off his arm, Yeung Gor initiated a lawsuit against the Gwok Family. Part of the settlement between Yeung Gor and the Gwoks was that every thread on SPCNET that mentions Gwok Jing must also mention Yeung Gor.

[Ren Ying Ying]

really? wow...thatz like a couple hundred yr long lawsuit...oh! annother one to add to JY's book of records :P.

[quote=ken cheng]What needs not be proven was that Gwok Jing was definitely the better archer (equal to Jebeh). What do the results say about how Gwok Jing and the Golden Wheel Monk compare in inner power and overall martial arts mastery? What can we conclude from that exchange of arrows?[quote]
well, purely skill, i say GJ is likely equal to his archery master, but with the boost of internal power, he's probably gone over (i highly doubt JB can fire that far).

as for internal energy with GWM, i would assume it would be no different than at the hero's gathers in lu manor earlier on in the story. i highly doubt a few months makes a HUGE difference.

[Wu Wudi]

It proves that GJ could have killed GWM (he could have aimed for GWM instead of GWM's bow. If GWM can't move his bow out of the way, he can't move his body out of the way).

Therefore GJ > YG.

Yeah, GJ's archery is awesome, but how sad is YG when GJ is shooting at him? Does YG have his iron sword and doesn't an arrow have less "formlessness" than iron sword technique?

[Wu Wudi]

Gwok Jing and the Golden Wheel Monk simultaneously shot arrows at each other during the first great confrontation at the gates of Seung Yeung Fortress. These were the results:

1. Golden Wheel Monk's arrow deflected and shattered by Gwok Jing's first arrow (first of three shot simultaneously by Gwok Jing).

2. Gwok Jing's second arrow breaks the Golden Wheel Monk's bow.

3. Gwok Jing's third arrow downs the Mongol flag.

What needs not be proven was that Gwok Jing was definitely the better archer (equal to Jebeh). What do the results say about how Gwok Jing and the Golden Wheel Monk compare in inner power and overall martial arts mastery? What can we conclude from that exchange of arrows?

It proves what I said about GWM being the biggest loser and worst main villain in the JY world. No matter how formidable GWM's skills are supposed to be, he will always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Ken Cheng]

Yeah, GJ's archery is awesome, but how sad is YG when GJ is shooting at him? Does YG have his iron sword and doesn't an arrow have less "formlessness" than iron sword technique?

Trust me. A razor sharp arrow barreling towards your face at Mach 1+ is as formless as it gets.

[Wu Wudi]

Trust me. A razor sharp arrow barreling towards your face at Mach 1+ is as formless as it gets.

I was just kidding. I was trying to make statements that look like the typical refutations of passionate YG fans whenever anyone suggests that someone is greater than YG.

[K2Grey]

If anything the arrow is the most formless attack in the world. It just goes at you and hits. There are no complicated attacks. Even a sword thrust requires complicated movement and stances in order for it to be delivered successfully.

[Wu Wudi]

If anything the arrow is the most formless attack in the world. It just goes at you and hits. There are no complicated attacks. Even a sword thrust requires complicated movement and stances in order for it to be delivered successfully.

Is that why Little Lee's flying dagger is so powerful? I guess GJ would be easily greater than YG if his arrow can be "once released, never misses the target" like Little Lee's flying dagger.

[K2Grey]

Well, whether or not something ever misses depends as much on the target as the attacker, regardless of what Gu Long says.

If LXH threw his dagger at Buddha, I don't think anyone would bet on it doing any damage.

[Ken Cheng]

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If LXH threw his dagger at Buddha, I don't think anyone would bet on it doing any damage.

Probably not, but I surmise that Gu Long was limiting his scope to human beings and other mortal lifeforms.

[Wu Wudi]

Well, whether or not something ever misses depends as much on the target as the attacker, regardless of what Gu Long says.

If LXH threw his dagger at Buddha, I don't think anyone would bet on it doing any damage.

Yeah, the dagger would not hurt Buddha, but it would still hit Buddha. According to Gu Long, "Little Lee's dagger, once released, never misses" is a fact that would never change.

[Ken Cheng]

Yeah, the dagger would not hurt Buddha, but it would still hit Buddha. According to Gu Long, "Little Lee's dagger, once released, never misses" is a fact that would never change.

It'd be pretty damn hard to miss a target whose *hand* extends 108,000 li. Even *I* could hit that every time.

[K2Grey]

So what if LXH threw his dagger at Lu Xiao Feng, who is supposed to be able to catch any blade?

Zi xiang mao dun?

[Ken Cheng]

So what if LXH threw his dagger at Lu Xiao Feng, who is supposed to be able to catch any blade?

The Paradox of Zeno comes into play: the Absolutely Unstoppable Force vs. the Absolutely Immoveable Object.