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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacifian
    Oh? H7G got children... Interesting... So let's all assume all beggars have blood relations to H7G.. Hmm.. Lucky old man..
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    forgive my mistake. i meant 'descendents' in the sense of clan leadership being passed down

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    If we allow descendent, then it will basically end up with which sect/school/clan knowing who. I propose that we only stick with direct relations.
    You do know that it is just fiction, dont you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnhHung
    If we allow descendent, then it will basically end up with which sect/school/clan knowing who. I propose that we only stick with direct relations.
    And u know any of Chen Kun or Wang Chongyang's relations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnysnow
    And u know any of Chen Kun or Wang Chongyang's relations?
    i think what he means is direct relations, eg. Xie Xun--->Cheng Kun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacifian
    Oh? H7G got children... Interesting... So let's all assume all beggars have blood relations to H7G.. Hmm.. Lucky old man..


    H7G died when YG is sixteen.

    Zhang JunBao is in his teens when YG is thirty-six (twenty years gone)

    Zhang JunBao becomes a ninety year old(or was it hundred?) old man Z3F , and Shi HuoLong is middle aged by then. (let's say seventy years gone)

    So Shi HuoLong is related to H7G even if he was born 90 years after his death?
    Look at the instructions:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng
    It's been said that there are six degrees of separation between any two individuals in the world. That is, every person is separated from any other person on this planet by six intervening relationships (i.e. somebody knows somebody who is somebody's dad who is somebody's boss's roommate, etc.)
    Relationship doesnt necessarily have to be by blood. HQG and SHL are related in the sense that they're both leaders of the Beggar Clan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0-0-0
    i think what he means is direct relations, eg. Xie Xun--->Cheng Kun
    Hmmm ok then

    Wang Chongyang-> Huang Yaoshi-> Guo Xiang-> Zhang Sanfeng-> Zhang Cuishan-> Xie Xun-> Chen Kun

    Exceeds 6 though.

    or

    Wang Chongyang-> Huang Yaoshi-> Guo Xiang-> Reverand Wuse-> Cheng Kun's teacher-> Cheng Kun
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnysnow
    Look at the instructions:



    Relationship doesnt necessarily have to be by blood. HQG and SHL are related in the sense that they're both leaders of the Beggar Clan.
    Fine. But I presume relationships mean as in someone knows someone. Otherwise, I can be related to the sweeper monk or DGSD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0-0-0
    i think what he means is direct relations, eg. Xie Xun--->Cheng Kun
    Yes, thats what I mean. People that have actually met eachother. H7Q and SHL havent met eachother. They are connected through the generations of begger sect clan leaders. If there are like 3 generation between, then there are degrees of seperation between H7Q and SHL.
    You do know that it is just fiction, dont you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacifian
    Fine. But I presume relationships mean as in someone knows someone. Otherwise, I can be related to the sweeper monk or DGSD.
    I presume Shi Huolong knows Hong Qigong in a more intimate way than you do to sweeper monk?
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    how about connecting Ma Dayuan (Madam Ma's husband) to Hu Fei?

    Gongsun Lu'e to Eight-Armed Swordsman Fang Dongbai

    Huang Shang--Creator of 9 Yin, to Green Furred Lion King Shi Shugang
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    Let me try:
    Quote Originally Posted by PJ
    Gongsun Lu'e to Eight-Armed Swordsman Fang Dongbai
    Gongsun Lu'E -> Yang Guo -> Guo Xiang -> Zhang Sanfeng -> Zhang Wuji* -> Zhao Min -> Fang Dongbai.
    * Zhang Wuji is optional.

    Or a shorter one: Gongsun Lu'E -> Yang Guo -> Yelu Qi -> Shi Huolong** -> Fang Dongbai.

    ** In terms of direct relationships/contacts, Shi Huolong is only valid if both Yelu Qi and Fang Dongbai had somehow met Shi in the 90-odd years between Chapter 1 and 24 of HSDS.

    However, in terms of Ken Cheng's earlier post, this connection should work by virtue of Yelu Qi and Shi Huolong being in the Beggars' Clan.

    Quote Originally Posted by PJ
    how about connecting Ma Dayuan (Madam Ma's husband) to Hu Fei?
    Ma Dayuan -> Xiao Feng -> A'Zhu -> A'Bi -> (Dr) Xue Muhua -> [#] -> Hu Fei.

    For [#], I can only hope that there is somehow a relationship that would tie Xue Muhua as a physician to one or more physicians/patients/monks that would eventually lead to the Ruthless King of Medicines (Dushou Yaowang) who was Cheng Lingsu's teacher. Then, Cheng Lingsu can be linked directly to Hu Fei as his friend and sworn sister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangYushi
    Let me try:

    Gongsun Lu'E -> Yang Guo -> Guo Xiang -> Zhang Sanfeng -> Zhang Wuji* -> Zhao Min -> Fang Dongbai.
    * Zhang Wuji is optional.

    Or a shorter one: Gongsun Lu'E -> Yang Guo -> Yelu Qi -> Shi Huolong** -> Fang Dongbai.

    ** In terms of direct relationships/contacts, Shi Huolong is only valid if both Yelu Qi and Fang Dongbai had somehow met Shi in the 90-odd years between Chapter 1 and 24 of HSDS.

    However, in terms of Ken Cheng's earlier post, this connection should work by virtue of Yelu Qi and Shi Huolong being in the Beggars' Clan.


    Ma Dayuan -> Xiao Feng -> A'Zhu -> A'Bi -> (Dr) Xue Muhua -> [#] -> Hu Fei.

    For [#], I can only hope that there is somehow a relationship that would tie Xue Muhua as a physician to one or more physicians/patients/monks that would eventually lead to the Ruthless King of Medicines (Dushou Yaowang) who was Cheng Lingsu's teacher. Then, Cheng Lingsu can be linked directly to Hu Fei as his friend and sworn sister.
    I can link these and any other characters in 3 degrees easily.

    Ma Dayuan > was created by Jin Yong > who also created Hu Fei

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangYushi
    Let me try:

    Gongsun Lu'E -> Yang Guo -> Guo Xiang -> Zhang Sanfeng -> Zhang Wuji* -> Zhao Min -> Fang Dongbai.
    * Zhang Wuji is optional.

    Or a shorter one: Gongsun Lu'E -> Yang Guo -> Yelu Qi -> Shi Huolong** -> Fang Dongbai.

    ** In terms of direct relationships/contacts, Shi Huolong is only valid if both Yelu Qi and Fang Dongbai had somehow met Shi in the 90-odd years between Chapter 1 and 24 of HSDS.

    However, in terms of Ken Cheng's earlier post, this connection should work by virtue of Yelu Qi and Shi Huolong being in the Beggars' Clan.


    Ma Dayuan -> Xiao Feng -> A'Zhu -> A'Bi -> (Dr) Xue Muhua -> [#] -> Hu Fei.

    For [#], I can only hope that there is somehow a relationship that would tie Xue Muhua as a physician to one or more physicians/patients/monks that would eventually lead to the Ruthless King of Medicines (Dushou Yaowang) who was Cheng Lingsu's teacher. Then, Cheng Lingsu can be linked directly to Hu Fei as his friend and sworn sister.
    The link can be a lot shorter, Ma Dayuan, Xiao Feng were members of the Beggars' Clan. Hu Fei encountered a [范幫主] leader Fan of the (Han resurrecting) Beggars' Clan.
    So huge, so hopeless, to conceive
    As these that twice befell
    Parting is all we know of heaven
    And all we need of hell.

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    Can anyone link Wuyazi to Zhao Min (note you'll need more than 6)?

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    Wuyazi -> Duan Yu -> Yideng -> Guo Jing -> Zhou Zhirou -> Zhao Min

    Wuyazi and Duan Yu both fell in love with the same statue, Duan Yu is Yideng's grandfather, Yideng was one of the 5 New Greats as well as Guo Jing (both fought JLGS), Guo Jing prepared the Heaven Sword and Dragon Saber which ZZR took advantage of, and ZZR and Zhao Min were rivals for ZWJ.

    Alternatively, replace Guo Jing with Wang Chongyang. WCY and Yideng traded martial arts and WCY and ZZR both read the 9 Yin Manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athena
    The link can be a lot shorter, Ma Dayuan, Xiao Feng were members of the Beggars' Clan. Hu Fei encountered a [范幫主] leader Fan of the (Han resurrecting) Beggars' Clan.
    Thanks, Athena! I forgot all about leader Fan!
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    Nice. More challenges:

    how about Ah Qing to Holy Dragon Sect Leader Hong Antong

    Mei Fanggu to Priest Wucheng

    Jinlun Guoshi/Golden Wheel Monk to Su Lu Ke (White Horse Neighing)

    King of Green Bat Wei Yixiao to Ren Feiyan (Blade Dance of 2 Lovers)

    Evil #4 Yun Zhonghe to Hu Guinan (Crimson Sabre)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ
    King of Green Bat Wei Yixiao to Ren Feiyan (Blade Dance of 2 Lovers)
    Wei Yixiao -> Zhu Yuanzhang (Ming Taizu/Emperor Hongwu) -> [any number of emperors and eunuchs after him in the Imperial Palace until the appropriate point of time in the Qing Dynasty] -> Xiao Banhe (the eunuch Xiao Yi) -> Ren Feiyan.

    Or simply in terms of dynastic connections:
    Wei Yixiao -> Zhu Yuanzhang (Ming Taizu/Emperor Hongwu) -> Zheng He (Ming Dynasty eunuch) -> Xiao Banhe/Xiao Yi (who admired Zheng He) -> Ren Feiyan.

    Jin Yong's Ode to Gallantry [侠客行].
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    Quote Originally Posted by K2Grey
    Wuyazi -> Duan Yu -> Yideng -> Guo Jing -> Zhou Zhirou -> Zhao Min

    Wuyazi and Duan Yu both fell in love with the same statue, Duan Yu is Yideng's grandfather, Yideng was one of the 5 New Greats as well as Guo Jing (both fought JLGS), Guo Jing prepared the Heaven Sword and Dragon Saber which ZZR took advantage of, and ZZR and Zhao Min were rivals for ZWJ.

    Alternatively, replace Guo Jing with Wang Chongyang. WCY and Yideng traded martial arts and WCY and ZZR both read the 9 Yin Manual.
    The way I thought of was way longer than yours.

    Wuyazi > Xu Zhu > Xiao Feng > Hong 7 Gung > Guo Jing > Guo Xiang > Zhang 3 Feng > Zhang WuJi > Zhao Min

    Hahaha!

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