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    Tibet was conquered before the mongols made a serious attack on Xiangyang at the end of ROCH. I want to know what the heck Yideng's pupils were doing at Xiangyang all the time instead of defending their homeland? Or were his students of Han descent rather than Tibetan?
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    THey were Dali citizens not Tibet.
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    They were also likely thinking ahead. During their lifetimes, the former Imperial Guardsmen of Dali had seen the Hsi Hsia Kingdom and the Jin Empire fall to the Mongol onslaught. They knew that if Southern Sung fell, Dali would be next.

    As it turned out (in real history), the Mongols wised up and used Dali to outflank the Sung from the rear rather than continue their fruitless frontal assault on Seung Yeung. Dali's capitulation was instrumental in the final defeat of the Sung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng
    They were also likely thinking ahead. During their lifetimes, the former Imperial Guardsmen of Dali had seen the Hsi Hsia Kingdom and the Jin Empire fall to the Mongol onslaught. They knew that if Southern Sung fell, Dali would be next.

    As it turned out (in real history), the Mongols wised up and used Dali to outflank the Sung from the rear rather than continue their fruitless frontal assault on Seung Yeung. Dali's capitulation was instrumental in the final defeat of the Sung.
    But surely they would have heard of Dali's plight before it actually fell and rush back to help. As it was they kinda abandoned Dali in favour of Song which seems kind of strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhuge Liang
    But surely they would have heard of Dali's plight before it actually fell and rush back to help. As it was they kinda abandoned Dali in favour of Song which seems kind of strange.
    Dali was caught off guard. Nobody had expected the Mongols to take the long route through Central Asia around the Sung territories and attack Dali from the west (it was costly for the Mongols too, because the journey was long and arduous). This was a very late stage of the war: Seung Yeung fell just a few short years after Dali surrendered.

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    And they still made it back in time to rescue the last Dali Emperor, Yideng's great grandson.

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