The Yuan Dynasty: a wulin renaissance amidst foreign occupation?

[Ken Cheng]

When the Mongols finally destroyed the final remnants of the Southern Sung Dynasty and established their hegemony as the Yuan Dynasty of China, one of the policies they implemented was extreme suppression of wulin activity. After all, in the Jin Yong wuxia universe, the Chinese wulin resisted the Mongol Empire's attempts to subjugate southern China for several decades. A purge would only make sense.

And yet, in HSDS, it seemed that wulin had thrived and grown during the century since the end of ROCH. The Greats were all dead, and such great L/ROCH-era wulin powers as the Cheun Jen Sect and the Beggar's Union had disappeared from wulin (Cheun Jen) or were greatly diminished (Beggar's Union). Further unlike the L/ROCH era, there were only two known Greats (Cheung 3 Fung and Cheung Mo Gei) rather than a dozen of them. Nevertheless, with a resurgent Shaolin Temple, the founding of the Mo Dong and Ngor Mei Sects, the re-emergence of the Ming Cult, and notable activity from Kunlun Sect, Hung Dung Sect, Mt. Hua Sect, etc., it seemed that wulin enjoyed a renaissance rather than suffered suppression during the Yuan Dynasty. The wulin of HSDS was arguably more active and diverse than it had ever been during L/ROCH.

[Whsie]

The truth is that the HSDS society wasn't that weak. With the exception of Kwun Lun Sect, almost every other sect thrived. In terms of fighters, ROCH>HSDS was obvious reasons of having more Great Level fighter. But for society in general, I think HSDS was probably overall better.

[Ken Cheng]

The truth is that the HSDS society wasn't that weak. With the exception of Kwun Lun Sect, almost every other sect thrived. In terms of fighters, ROCH>HSDS was obvious reasons of having more Great Level fighter. But for society in general, I think HSDS was probably overall better.

Precisely. The Yuan purge of wulin was not as effective as it was reported to be, because the wulin of HSDS was among the most active ever.

[Whsie]

the reason why wulin was more active was probably because the Han people wanted to kick out the Mongols. Apparently, the society of wulin didn't prosper as much during the Ming in SPW or Ode of Gallantary when all the sects started to go in a downward trend.

[CC]

Yes, yes. The was a definite downward trend in wulin after SWORD GOD Zhuo BuFan passed away. The world would never see another such as he who had reached the Peak of Perfection in Sword Accuracy and Positioning and deserving of the name SWORD GOD.

[The Khan]

Yes, yes. The was a definite downward trend in wulin after SWORD GOD Zhuo BuFan passed away. The world would never see another such as he who had reached the Peak of Perfection in Sword Accuracy and Positioning and deserving of the name SWORD GOD.

QFT!! Sword God FTW!

[K2Grey]

Clearly. After the SWORD GOD there was the SWORD DEMON and then there were merely SWORD USERS.

JIAN MO DUGU QIUBAI at the end of his life attempted to approach the peak of perfection that the SWORD GOD had reached, but he only progressed towards the goal, not truly reaching it. For at the peak of pefection in sword technique the wielder loses the sword. That is the meaning of when the SWORD GOD permitted Xu Zhu to take his sword.