Why... seems so stupid

[strife_au]

In probably every adaption, when theres some fight and the good guys are chopping up the bad guys like they are about to make a stirfry, then all of a sudden they confront the bad guy and beats them then they always let them go, and regret it later... why why why ffs, seriously the neutral half good half evil characters in series are so much better cos they are actually shown to kill someone even though they beg and beg.
I'd like to see in wuxia series where the good guy puts his sword to the evil guys throat and even though the evil pisses his pants and begs the good guy still chops him like lamb chop with hot mustard. Cos usually in every series the only way some protagonist kills a bad guy is fast and furious, everytime they fight to a standstill, a few words is exchanged then the protagonist lets the homo go.
Then sometime later, in some strange place under some strange circumstance, under a strange moon in the protagonist cries, waahs and gets pissed off cos the guy he let go kills his girlfriend or something and therefore seeks revenge. Or the guy actually ends up dead... wtf.
Then of course they meet again and the bad guy gets stabbed and talks some more bullsh*t then dies - the end...


Are there actually good main characters that ruthlessly killed bad guys under a standstill?

Also why are tehre so much double standard crap in wulin... it sounds more like a place of over-the-top hypocrites. Good guys are so easly framed and get slapped around like a trout. e.g. Xiao Feng does all those good deeds etc for Han's and beggars clan, then comes along some silly accusation and suddenly hes public enemy number one wtf. Also its so unacceptable for adultery in ancient times etc, but if your a bad person no one gives a shit anyway, like Ms Ma or LXE... so its like if your evil you get much better rights and benefits. E.g. if XLN and YG wtf make such a big deal about it, when YD doesnt even give a flak about YG liking ZBT.
I bet if Lin Xian Er or suddenly says they want to repent etc everyone would so joyous and in celebrous mood oblivious to the fact that person has done like a hundred death-sentence worthy deeds? And some good guy doesnt thousands of very good deeds but because they get framed for some stupid thing, they are hated and hunted by everyone? lawlz

[dius corvus]

Well, that's one of the themes that wuxia writers address, that not all good deeds or good guys get rewarded, and the fact that you're thinking about it should gratify them.

On the other hand, it could just be a plot device to ensure the villain stays alive for a final battle...

[MysteriouX]

Anyone ever read the Greek Classics before, like Oedipus Rex or classical legends such as Perseus and the Medusa?

Well, basically for Oedipus and Perseus, the legend goes that:

Before they were born, an Oracle predicted to their parents (in the case of Perseus it was to his grandfather) that their child (grandchild) would one day be the cause of their death.

So believing and trusting the prediction of the Oracle, the parents (grandfather) sought to prevent it from comming true but that action in itself caused it to happen.

Oedipus was predicted to slay his father and marry his mother, so his father ordered one of his trusted guards to kill the infant, but the guard takes pity and leaves the child who was found and raised by the king and queen of a neighbouring country. So Oedipus grew up believing his adoptive parents to be his real parents, he learned of the prophecy and left the kingdom and arrived at the kingdom of his true parents, and due to some events slayed his true father and married his true mother.

So the question is, if Oedipus's true father had not listened to the prophecy and tried to get rid of his son, would the prediction be fulfilled?

Therefore to reply to the topic at hand, when we have someone who is our enemy at our mercy, should we kill him without mercy or should we show compassion? It's a question of ethics and morality. Just like Laius who made the decision to get rid of Oedipus which in the end returned to haunt him, heroes or people in such novels have to weigh their moral decisions.

No 2 persons in the world show the same value for life. And from reading these stories we would think that the act of taking a life was very simple, yet in reality depending on our conscience and beliefs it can be as light as a feather or as heavy as the mass of our world.

Also why are tehre so much double standard crap in wulin... it sounds more like a place of over-the-top hypocrites. Good guys are so easly framed and get slapped around like a trout. e.g. Xiao Feng does all those good deeds etc for Han's and beggars clan, then comes along some silly accusation and suddenly hes public enemy number one wtf. Also its so unacceptable for adultery in ancient times etc, but if your a bad person no one gives a shit anyway, like Ms Ma or LXE... so its like if your evil you get much better rights and benefits. E.g. if XLN and YG wtf make such a big deal about it, when YD doesnt even give a flak about YG liking ZBT.
I bet if Lin Xian Er or suddenly says they want to repent etc everyone would so joyous and in celebrous mood oblivious to the fact that person has done like a hundred death-sentence worthy deeds? And some good guy doesnt thousands of very good deeds but because they get framed for some stupid thing, they are hated and hunted by everyone? lawlz

However we do see a lot of this in novels: the good guys seem to be either absent minded or just lack in the department of deductive reasoning and logical decision making. Thats a major reason why they can be framed or misunderstood easily. They are too trusting, sometimes we need a person who is absolutely good but also cynical about people and do not trust anyone so easily.

[PJ]

I once had the same thoughts as the original poster, that heroes should perhaps annihilate more opponents. Then, it actually happened -- heroes were ruthless when it came to treating their "opponents" in many of the 60s HK swordplay films (examples: Golden Swallow [1968], Young Avenger [1972]), and I hated that. It turns out that some of these "opponents" were really semi-innocent/pitiful people who didn't even know martial arts. But the hero deprived them of their life anyway. How sickening.

That's why I think Xiao Feng makes for the best hero type.

[K2Grey]

Xiao Feng is definitely a good hero type. He seemed to pursue his revenge with much determination and single-mindedness, but did not fall into evil in the process of doing so (though this didn't stop the Duan Zhengchun/Ah Zhu deal from happening anyway).

[kidd]

However we do see a lot of this in novels: the good guys seem to be either absent minded or just lack in the department of deductive reasoning and logical decision making. Thats a major reason why they can be framed or misunderstood easily. They are too trusting, sometimes we need a person who is absolutely good but also cynical about people and do not trust anyone so easily.

We have one, Yang Guo.

[MysteriouX]

We have one, Yang Guo.

I know, there is also LXH and a few others but then we have someone like ZWJ, he was the main reason I didn't like the novel HSDS.

[strife_au]

They can just kill when they are talking one on one and cover up everything, and no one would know who did it. Life XF talking to ms Ma "Hey come I want to speak with you privately, babe" then they go somewhere and hes like "**** you *****" and burns her he could so easily cover it up.
Or when GWM and his apprentices went to the hero conference to stir trouble, the good guys couldve stopped being goody-good hypecrites and ganag banged the living daylights out of the mongols and covered everything up.
As they say the victor writes history.