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    Quote Originally Posted by pokit View Post
    "Your martial brother Lin wears a flowery gown."



    This little girl, not paying attention to someone's sword art, but instead paying attention to what someone else is wearing.
    hahahaha.....RYY is very perspective...she noticed that LPZ is turning into another DFBB, in terms of looks.....wherease LHC is too engrossed in the martial arts techniques to even notice the change in LPZ.

    Question, not sure if this has been asked - can a woman learn Evil Resisting/Sunflower?? So far, we only see men learning this but they have to pay a high price...wonder if it would be more natural for a woman to learn this martial arts.

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    really hope Feng QingYang makes another appearance...that old sword guy owns.

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    haha yeah. Feng QingYang owns. ^^" As for LHC... well, since he doesn't know the pre-requisites of learning the Sunflower manual or evil resisting sword... he wouldn't have understood the significance of cross-dressing... Thanks for the translation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfe View Post
    As for LHC... well, since he doesn't know the pre-requisites of learning the Sunflower manual or evil resisting sword... he wouldn't have understood the significance of cross-dressing...
    He should know. After DFBB was killed, RWX did reveal the secret to LHC & RYY.

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    In the 3rd edition, RWX didn't tell LHC about that little requirements. That's why LHC get confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcyFox View Post
    He should know. After DFBB was killed, RWX did reveal the secret to LHC & RYY.
    This is what I'm confused about too...I thought RWX revealed the secret to them right after they defeated DFBB but for some reason LHC & RYY seem to forget this. LHC just asked RYY if her father told her anything about the Sunflower secret which implies that he doesn't know or doesn't remember about the castration requirement and RYY noticing the LPZ's cross-dressing implies that she remembers?? I'm a little confused whether or not they truly know or just forget.

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    This is what happened in the 2nd edition. RWX told them what was needed to practice the Sunflower Manual, but LHC and RYY magically forgot them in ch 35. So in the 3rd edition, Jin Yong fixed this error by changing the scenes in Ch 31 into RWX's thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pokit View Post
    This is what happened in the 2nd edition. RWX told them what was needed to practice the Sunflower Manual, but LHC and RYY magically forgot them in ch 35. So in the 3rd edition, Jin Yong fixed this error by changing the scenes in Ch 31 into RWX's thought.
    OK...I get it now...thanks Pokit! So I'm guessing the version that's being translated here is the 2nd version hence all the confusion.

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    Default Sunflower ERSA vs all the rest

    First of all I'd like to thank all you guys for this translation. Came across this as I was reading JY's other novels on wuxiapedia. Yep I'm an avid fan of his, to extent that I like his novels more than JRR Tolkien's, and that's saying a lot. Started trying to learn chinese (Mandarin) too since it seems there are many more novels to read.
    Anyway in the novel, LHC pondered on seeing FQY to ask tips on how to overcome Sunflower, does this mean that DG9J is able to overcome Sunflower/ERSA. Is there actually a set in DG9J that can accomplish this? I remember that there's a set to overcome Qi, but then again Sunf/ERSA doesn't rely on Qi, just speed alone. Pity LHC isn't as affluent in other arts besides sword arts. Would DuGu-Seeking-A-Loss be able to overcome Sunf/ERSA? In ROCH(ROCL), it was mentioned that his ultimate sword skill is swordsmanship without a sword, where a piece of grass can be deadly, or not having a piece of grass is deadlier still, and that YG had not yet attained this skill (wonder if JY ever showed us this skill in any of his other novels). Sun Tzi also mentioned something like this in his great work. But then again with the devastating speed that Sunf/ERSA displays, could you really fight something you can't anticipate.
    On another note, DFBB took quite some time to get to his level of mastery, remember RWX was imprisoned for a dozen years. And then again, the version of Sunf/ERSA that YBQ/DFBB/LPZ uses is some incomplete version (compared to the original at Shaolin), so can it really be that powerful?

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    Does LHC and RYY know that Evil-resisting/sunflower manual are from the same root? So the fact that you need to be crastrate never enter their minds. Also there are descendents of the Lin family, so presumably you need the certain thing to have babies? I don't know LHC and RYY know that LPZ's grandfather adopted LPZ's father.

    Also in regards to Sunflower (and evil-resisting) vs DG9J, the beauty of DG9J is that it can break any stance of any weapon but the use depends on the intelligence, creative and the user's understanding of its principles.

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    Yes, I'm translating the 2nd edition. As far as I know, the 3rd edition isn't available online.

    I think in Ch 30, LHC was told that both the sunflower and evil resisting sword art came from the same source. But the requirement to learn them wasn't mentioned there.

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    Continuing with the next fight.

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    Some of the Qingcheng disciples had walked away, and some had sat down on the ground, while Yu Canghai was still standing stiffly like a corpse. Linghu Chong felt pity for him. This master of Qingcheng School didn't know what to do and was just waiting for death and that made Linghu Chong feel very sorry for him. He gradually became sleepy and finally went to sleep. While dreaming, he suddenly felt his mule carriage moving followed by some shouts. The sky had actually brightened and the people had started on their journey. He took a peek from the side of the carriage and saw they were on a very straight road. Some disciples of the Qingcheng School were riding on horseback and some were walking. Seeing their dejected and withered bodies from the back, Linghu Chong felt an unspeakable misery surrounding them. They looked like a group of cow and sheep walking to the slaughter house. He thought, "All these people know Lin Pingzhi will come again, and they also know they have no way of fighting back. If they scattered to run away, then Qingcheng School will be destroyed. Could it be, when Lin Pingzhi go up Mount Qingcheng, there will be no one to answer him at the Pine Wind Monastery?"

    At noon, they arrived at a big town. The people of Qingcheng ate their meals in a wine shop, while the disciples of Heng-Shan School went to the opposite restaurant to eat. The Qingcheng people were eating quickly with big bowls and big cups, while the nuns all ate quietly. Everyone knew these people were only living from dawn to dusk and surviving from meal to meal.

    At the hour of Wei (1-3pm), they were going along the bank of a river when they heard sound of galloping horses. It was the Lin Pingzhi husband and wife couple riding towards them. Yihe whistled and the disciples of Heng-Shan School stopped immediately. With the orange sun beating down on them, the two horses galloped alongside the river. When they got near, Yue Lingshan reined her horse in first, while Lin Pingzhi continued to come forward. Yu Canghai swept his hand across and his people turned around to rush south along the river.

    "Shorty Yu, where are you running off to?" Lin Pingzhi laughed loudly as he rushed forward on his horse. Yu Canghai suddenly turned around with the sword in his hand. The reflection from the sword was like a rainbow as it thrust towards Lin Pingzhi's face. This attack was unexpectedly very fierce and Lin Pingzhi was surprised as he hastily pulled his sword out to block. The disciples of Qingcheng started to encircle him. Yu Canghai attacked faster and faster, slashing high and low. This sixty years old man attacked with youthful agility and all of his stances were offensive. Eight Qingcheng disciples brandished their long swords and surrounded Lin Pingzhi on his horse, but they didn't go forward to slash at the horse.

    When Linghu Chong saw the situation, he understood Yu Canghai's intention. The strong point of Lin Pingzhi's sword art was in its immeasurable variations and lightning fast speed. As he was on top of a horse, this strong point was greatly reduced. If he wanted to attack, he would only be able to attack the person in front of him and the horse he was riding wouldn't be able to retreat like a ghost to make people unable to grab him. The eight disciples of Qingcheng formed a sword net as they surrounded his horse to prevent Lin Pingzhi from dismounting.

    Linghu Chong thought, "Qingcheng's headmaster is really not someone ordinary. This method is very formidable." Lin Pingzhi's sword art changed irregularly, and it was fantastic. But because he was on his horse, Yu Canghai was able to match him. After looking at a few more moves, Linghu Chong's eyes shot toward Yue Lingshan. Suddenly, greatly surprised, his whole body shook.

    Six Qingcheng disciples had already surrounded her and were slowly crowding her towards the edge of the river. They had split open the stomach of her horse and as the horse fell down to the ground with a long neigh, she jumped up from her horse's back. Yue Lingshan leaned to one side to dodge the incoming two attacks and stood firm. The six Qingcheng disciples exerted themselves in attacking as if their lives were at stake. Linghu Chong recognised Hou Renying and Hong Renxiong among these six people. Brandishing a sword in his left hand, Hou Renying's movements were very fierce.

    Even though Yue Lingshan had learnt the five schools' sword arts engraved on the cave wall on the Cliff of Contemplation, she had not learnt the sword art of the Qingcheng School. The sword moves engraved on the cave were actually too brilliant, so she actually had not truly comprehended them. It was only her father who had taught her, and she knew the moves only. At the place of worship, she had used Taishan sword art to defeat the masters from the Taishan School, and Hengshan sword art to defeat the headmaster of the Hengshan School. This caused her opponents to be startled and she took advantage when they were intimidated. But she had no way of imitating that method to deal with these Qingcheng disciples. Linghu Chong had seen a few moves exchanged and he knew Yue Lingshan was unable to resist for long and was feeling anxious. Suddenly, he heard a long cry and saw a Qingcheng disciple had his left arm cut off by Yue Lingshan using a Hengshan sword art. Linghu Chong felt happy hoping that these six disciples would retreat in fear. But how could he have known that five of them didn't even retreat half a step, while the one with his left arm cut off crazily charged forward instead. When Yue Lingshan saw his body was soaked in blood and his expression was terrifying, she retreated a few steps in fear. While retreating, her foot stepped on nothing and she fell down on the gravel at the edge of the river.

    "Shameless, shameless!" Linghu Chong snorted.

    Suddenly he heard Yingying said, "We also used this method to fight Dongfang Bubai."

    He didn't know when she had arrived besides him. Linghu Chong thought what she said wasn't wrong. That day on Dark Wood Cliff, their defeat was guaranteed already, but luckily Yingying attacked Yang Lianting and disturbed Dongfang Bubai's concentration and this had enabled them to kill him. At this time, Yu Canghai was actually also using the same strategy. Of course Yu Canghai didn't know how they defeated Dongfang Bubai, but through his wisdom, he had also come to the same idea. Linghu Chong expected Lin Pingzhi to have his concentration divided when he saw his wife in danger and to turn around to save her. But he never expected Lin Pingzhi to keep fighting Yu Canghai with all his strength and unexpectedly didn't pay any attention to his wife being in danger.

    After she fell down, Yue Lingshan quickly jumped up with her long sword dancing around. The six Qingcheng disciples knew Qingcheng School's survival and their own lives depended on whether they were able to kill their enemies, so they all disregarded their lives and rushed forward. The one with his arm cut off had already abandoned his long sword, and he was now rolling around on the ground trying to seize Yue Lingshan legs with his right hand. Yue Lingshan was frightened and she called out, "Brother Ping, Brother Ping, come help me!"

    "Shorty Yu wants to have a look at the Evil Resisting Sword Art, so I'm letting him have a good look. Let him have a good death!" Lin Pingzhi shouted loudly as he used his wonderful moves to suppress Yu Canghai from taking a breather. Yu Canghai had already researched the stances of Evil Resisting Sword Art and he knew all the moves by heart and decided that there was nothing special about those stances. Suddenly, at this moment, there were so many wonderful variations in the sword art and it was also done as fast as lightning making Yu Canghai roar again and again as he got more and more desperate. Yu Canghai knew his enemy's internal energy was far below his so he kept on aiming his sword towards Lin Pingzhi's long sword, hoping that Lin Pingzhi's sword would be shaken off his hand when both swords clash. But from the beginning of the fight, he had not managed to get the swords to clash yet.

    Linghu Chong was angered and shouted, "You... You... You..." In the beginning, he was thinking Lin Pingzhi was being stopped by Yu Canghai from going over to help his wife. But when he heard what Lin Pingzhi said, he realised Lin Pingzhi didn't actually care about the safety of Yue Lingshan and he actually attached more importance to jesting with Yu Canghai.

    At this time, the sun was fiercely shining down and Linghu Chong saw Lin Pingzhi sneering, showing his excitement and hatred. It seemed his heart was full of happiness in seeking this revenge. He was like a cat who had captured a mouse and was cruelly playing with it first before biting it to death. But when a cat plays with a mouse, it doesn't have this kind of hatred and malice.

    "Brother Ping, Brother Ping, quickly come!" Yue Lingshan called out repeatedly. She shouted till her voice was hoarse as the situation became gravely desperate.

    "I'm coming. Hold on for a while. I'm showing the entire set of Evil Resisting Sword Art for him to see. Originally, Shorty Yu didn't have any enmity with us, but he did all the things he did because of the 'Evil Resisting Sword Art'. So I'm going to show him the entire set of sword art and let him see it clearly, don't you think so?" Lin Pingzhi replied leisurely. It was apparent he wasn't actually directing these words to his wife, but was directing them more towards Yu Canghai. He was afraid his enemy wouldn't understand his meaning, so he added, "Shorty Yu, don't you think so?" His body was elegant and he moved his sword gracefully. His movements were like the moves from 'The Nineteen Stances of the Jade Maiden Sword' that the female disciples of Huashan School learned. But this move Lin Pingzhi was using had a demonical aura around it.

    Linghu Chong originally wanted to watch the stances of his Evil Resisting Sword Art. This was a really good opportunity to do just that as Lin Pingzhi was now revealing everything in front of Yu Canghai. But he was concerned about Yue Lingshan's safety. Even if he was certain that in the future Lin Pingzhi would use this sword art to kill him, he still couldn't look further as he heard Yue Lingshan continuously calling out for help. He couldn't take it anymore and called out, "Martial Sister Yihe, Martial Sister Yiqing, quickly go and save Miss Yue. She... she can't hold on any longer."

    "We already said we won't help any party, I'm afraid it's inappropriate for us to get involved," Yihe replied.

    The people of Wulin were especially fastidious about the word 'Trust'. Some characters from the unorthodox path, despite their ‘no evil they won't do’ attitude, once they gave their words, they wouldn't go back on it. If anyone ate his own words, then people in Wulin would despise him. Even Tian Boguang who was such a notorious rapist would abide by his words. When Linghu Chong heard what Yihe said, he knew it was the truth. Last night, besides the worship place, she already said clearly to Yu Canghai that they wouldn't be involved. If at this time they helped Yue Lingshan then it would damage the reputation of Heng-Shan School. He was still worried and quickly said, "This... This..." then he called out, "Monk No Commandment? Tian Boguang?"

    "The two of them went together with Peach Valley Six Fairies last night,” Qin Juan answered. “They said looking at Shorty Yu is too gloomy, so they went to drink wine. Also, the eight of them are also Heng-Shan School..."

    Yingying suddenly flew out towards the edge of the river and pulled out two short swords from her waist. She loudly shouted, "Look clearly, I'm Divine Sun Moon Sect's Chief Ren's daughter, Ren Yingying. I'm not from Heng-Shan School. Six men ganging up on a girl, this really makes people uncomfortable to see. Miss Ren thinks this is unfair so I'm going to interfere."

    Linghu Chong was happy to see Yingying going out to help. He let out a sigh of relief but his wound felt painful, so he sat down inside the carriage. When the six Qingcheng disciples saw Yingying coming, they unexpectedly didn't pay any attention to her but continued attacking Yue Lingshan with total disregard for their lives. Yue Lingshan retreated a few steps, and with a 'pu' sound, her left leg treaded on the river water. She wasn't accustomed to being around water, so as her foot entered the water, she became nervous and her swordplay became disorderly. Suddenly, she felt pain on her left shoulder as it was pierced by one of her enemies. That enemy with no arm took advantage of the situation and rushed forward and seized her right leg. Yue Lingshan chopped down with her long sword and struck him at his back as that armless person opened his mouth wide and bit her leg viciously. Yue Lingshan's vision darkened and she thought, "I'm going to die like this?" She then gazed at Lin Pingzhi thrusting his sword out while his left hand made a sword form sweeping across the air to make an arch. The stance he was using was really elegant, it was a sword art which really looked leisurely. She felt a wave of bitterness in her heart and felt really dizzy. Suddenly, she saw a pair of short swords in front of her and she heard two splashing sounds as two Qingcheng disciples fell into the river. Yue Lingshan fell down feeling confused and lost. Yingying waved her short swords around, and after more than ten moves, the remaining three Qingcheng disciples had all retreated after being injured and disarmed. Yingying kicked away the dying one-armed Qingcheng disciple and pulled Yue Lingshan up. She saw Yue Lingshan's lower half of the body was soaked in the river so her skirt was all wet while her gown on top was splashed with blood all over. She immediately supported her to go up the river bank.

    Lin Pingzhi called out, "Have you had a good look at my Lin family's Evil Resisting Sword Art?" The sword reflection flashed everywhere and surrounded a Qingcheng disciple standing besides his horse when the sword suddenly pierced that disciple between his eyes. Lin Pingzhi laughed out loud and cried out, "Fang Renzhi, you wicked thief, that death was too easy for you!" He lifted his rein and jumped over Fang Renzhi’s falling body and then galloped off. Yu Canghai was already exhausted, so how could he dare to give chase?

    Lin Pingzhi reined in his horse and suddenly shouted, "You're Jia Renda!" then galloped his horse over. Jia Renda had already stepped back far away some time ago, and when he saw Lin Pingzhi coming after him, he shouted and in a mad rush, turned around to run away. But Lin Pingzhi just patiently chased him, and when he caught up, he slashed his long sword and hamstrung Jia Renda's right leg. Jia Renda fell down hard on the ground. Lin Pingzhi lifted his rein and his horse stepped on Jia Renda's body. Jia Renda cried out miserably but he didn't die. Lin Pingzhi laughed maniacally and turned his horse around to trample Jia Renda's body again. After a few more passes, Jia Renda was finally quiet. Lin Pingzhi didn't give the people of Qingcheng School another glance before going besides Yue Lingshan and Yingying. He said to his wife, "Get on the horse!"

    Yue Lingshan looked at him angrily. After a while, she gritted her teeth and said, "You go by yourself."

    "You?"

    "Why do you care?"

    Lin Pingzhi took a glance at the Heng-Shan School's disciples and laughed coldly. Then he put his heels on his horse and gave its head. Yingying couldn't figure out why Lin Pingzhi was treating his newly-wedded wife so indifferently and she couldn't help feeling surprised. Yingying said, "Madam Lin, come to my carriage to rest."

    Both of Yue Lingshan's eyes were full of tears and she tried her hardest not to let her tears flow down. She chokingly said, "I'm... I'm not going. Why... Why did you save me?"

    "I didn't, it was your big martial brother Linghu Chong who saved you."

    Yue Lingshan felt sour in her heart and couldn't hold back her tears anymore as it flowed down her cheeks. "You... Can I please ask you for a horse?"

    "Alright." Yingying turned around to lead a horse over.

    Yue Lingshan stammered, "Thank you, you... you..." She jumped on the horse's back and went towards the east, opposite of where Lin Pingzhi had gone before. It seemed that she was going back to Songshan. Yu Canghai was surprised to see her galloping past, but he didn't pay her any attention. He thought, "After another night, that animal Lin will come and will kill a few of my men again. He wants to kill my disciples one by one till I'm left all by myself before he comes for me."

    Linghu Chong couldn't bear seeing Yu Canghai looking like he had lost his mind, so he ordered, "Let's go!"

    "Yes!" the person at the driver seat answered. With a shout, the whip was cracked and the mule started to pull the carriage forward. Linghu Chong gasped in surprise. He saw Yue Lingshan was going to the east, so his heart automatically also wanted to go with her, but he didn't expect the mule carriage would be going towards the west. His heart sank, but he didn't order the mule carriage to turn around to go to the east. He opened the screen in the carriage and couldn't see Yue Lingshan anymore. His heart was heavy as he thought, "She's been injured and she's going all by herself with no one to tend to her injuries, how's she going to fare?" Suddenly, he heard Qin Juan said, "She's going back to Songshan to her parents. She's going to be safe there, you don't need to worry."

    Linghu Chong felt relieved and replied, "Yes." While he thought, "Martial Sister Qin is very observant, she even knew what I was thinking."

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    i can't help but feel bad for YLS and her mom here

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    Thanks for the translation! true... but I also feel for YY... I mean.. she's willing to put up with LHC's constant wavering... =p Hm... LP is soooo evil now...

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    LPZ could be very evil now, but i would categorized him as a victim of circumstances. i think only a few would not walk the path he's taking now if they went thru what he endured.

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    DFBB is shown to have more "heart" than LPZ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortsight View Post
    LPZ could be very evil now, but i would categorized him as a victim of circumstances. i think only a few would not walk the path he's taking now if they went thru what he endured.
    I totally agree with shortsight. I mean forget about losing your whole family, people are willing to kill over the smallest things when vengeance drives them. However, LPZ is still a much more detestable fellow as compared to DFBB who succumbed to his desire to become master of Jianghu. Can't imagine just how big a meanie YBQ would be.
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    LPZ is currently intoxicated w/ vengeance! I finally somewhat pity YLS but only a little. RYY is soooo sweet...she would do anything for LHC!!

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    Thanks pokit.. that was awesome.
    Still, I am baffled as how much LHC has changed from the first part of the book. He used to be err... cool. Now he's no more than a lapdog. Anyway, this doesn't detract from the story too much methinks, there are still other cool characters, RYY and RWS come to mind. I'll wait and reserve a more comprehensive judgement till the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augster123 View Post
    DFBB is shown to have more "heart" than LPZ...
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    probably, but DFBB did lock down RWX for years, and willing to kill Tong Baixiong, his sworn brother who had help him all this while, just because his lover said so.

    it could also due to DFBB found his lover, while LPZ after castration has no love now and only filled with hatred.

    but generally, i think whoever willing to learn PXJF or sunflower manual could be as heartless as possible when needed. if he has heart, he won't chop his little bro off, which has serves him well since born.
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