Smiling Proud Wanderer Chapter 29 onwards

[Spidey]

Thanks Pokit and Hhuang.

I really did'nt expect LPZ to become so conceited. But it is understandable a person who has gone through so much will either become more resilient or conceited like he his now.

The sword art should be "Evil Receiving Sword Art" rather than "Evil Resisting Sword Art".

[Tracing Traveller]

Thanks again, Pokit and HH.

Love that "wishing to cover up but exposing more instead" method. LPZ isn't stupid at all, even if not as smart as YBQ.

By the way, I'm wondering if castrating makes a person becomes a gay suddenly. It's understandable that he would start losing hairs but would he necessarily start feeling/behaving like a woman, like wearing women perfumes or liking men. Can somebody answer this?

[ChronoReverse]

You would lose your sex drive but that should be the limit. That doesn't preclude the other effects being a result of the remainder of KHBD/PXJF.

Perhaps if you don't have at least some level of cultivation (the first PXJF user was a monk) to "buffer the shock", we get YBQ, LPZ and DFBB =X

[Dugu Turtle]

Maybe DFBB was already into guys prior to being castrated?

[ChronoReverse]

Quite the opposite, he had a large number of concubines if I recall correctly.

[convoy]

Quite the opposite, he had a large number of concubines if I recall correctly.

Maybe he was closeted then.

[meujeudom]

I think a user of this art act like a woman, not really because he castrated himself, but because his inner energy become female energy (it's yang, no? I'm not sure). the more he progress in the art, the more he "turn female".

that would also explain why they had to be castrated : because it is impossible to get rid of male energy if they don't.

If my theory is correct, then it's harmless for women to learn it.

[s4life]

I didn't comprehend how naive and somewhat stupid YLS was until this last read... ah well, she probably got what she deserved by marrying LPZ. LPZ is actually a smart kid with a troubled life, his family was killed, his master is a devious person who has been using him all along... he's a survivor. I can only feel pity for him right now.

[Morin'stal]

I think a user of this art act like a woman, not really because he castrated himself, but because his inner energy become female energy (it's yang, no? I'm not sure). the more he progress in the art, the more he "turn female".

that would also explain why they had to be castrated : because it is impossible to get rid of male energy if they don't.

Hm? If that's so, (and it does makes sense) how come GuoJing (from LoCH) didn't have to castrate himself? If I recall correctly, he learned 9YJJ which uses Ying energy.

[Ardor]

Hm? If that's so, (and it does makes sense) how come GuoJing (from LoCH) didn't have to castrate himself? If I recall correctly, he learned 9YJJ which uses Ying energy.

9Yin is neutral. Yang Guo's Jade Maiden is Yin in nature. And the evil resisting swordplay does not make the practitioner evil. The practitioners just happen to be evil in the first place. Think back to Dongfang Bubai. He was ruthless and cruel at first, and then after practicing the Sunflower Manual, he lost his ambitions, and became more like a "good housewife". All of her prior evil intentions is lost.

[shortsight]

I think a user of this art act like a woman, not really because he castrated himself, but because his inner energy become female energy (it's yang, no? I'm not sure). the more he progress in the art, the more he "turn female".

that would also explain why they had to be castrated : because it is impossible to get rid of male energy if they don't.

If my theory is correct, then it's harmless for women to learn it.

No, this is not the correct scientific explanation. Castration will make the man behaving more feminine because of the production of testosterone hormone is much less without the balls. Without this hormone, moustache will become less, voice become higher pitch, body built shrink, your little bro unable to stand and ... you know what i mean, if i continue, i'll be censored.

it has nothing to do with the yin or yang energy practice. i guessed jin yong have researched the hormone effect before he penned it down in the story.

and once castrated, even if LPZ, DFBB or YBQ did not continue to learn the art, they would still become more feminine as time past by because they are producing less testosterone hormone, which is why the eunuchs were so sissy.

[line7]

your little bro unable to stand

although castration may just mean removal of the balls. In ancient china, castration includes removing the whole unit, including the "little brother".

Than they use a plug to plug the uthera.

Btw, if both balls are removed. A man may still can function as a man(sex). Just that his sex drive declines and of course no heir.

Chances are your voice wont change too, or you wont become more girly. As males dont produce large amounts of estrogen(trans-genders need to inject that into them). But muscles will tend to shrink like you said.

Alot of cancer patients have only 1 ball or none but act/talk as if they are normal and you cant tell their handicap till they tell you. Some inject the hormone thou, but not all does.

The effects of loving men after castration maybe more psychological than physical.

[dewyloony123]

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration--it supports what line7 said:

Castrations after the onset of puberty will typically reduce the sex drive considerably or eliminate it altogether. Also castrated people are automatically sterile, because the testes (for males) and ovaries (for females) produce sex cells needed for sexual reproduction, once removed the subject is infertile. The voice does not change. Some castrates report mood changes, such as depression or a more serene outlook on life. Body strength and muscle mass can decrease somewhat. Body hair sometimes may decrease. Castration prevents male pattern baldness if it is done before hair is lost, however, castration will not restore hair growth after hair has already been lost due to male pattern baldness. [9] Castration is never recommended by medical doctors as a way to prevent or treat hair loss. Castration eliminates the risk of testicular cancer, and it may even reduce prostate cancer.[citation needed]

Historically, eunuchs suffered from a range of urogenital problems associated with the removal of their sexual organs, and they had their own specialist doctors.

Well, at least LPZ and YBQ won't get testicular or prostate cancer...

[Demonic Swordsman]

this conversation is making me...uncomfortable lol...

removing the balls...ew...

[dewyloony123]

ok, sorry. So... for something completely different... Zuo Lengchan: is he going to make a come-back, or is he completely gone from the picture? Or has YBQ secretly eliminated him--like what Stalin did to Trotsky? (this book has so many parallels with Communism, imho). Discuss ~_^.

[overjoy71]

ok, sorry. So... for something completely different... Zuo Lengchan: is he going to make a come-back, or is he completely gone from the picture? Or has YBQ secretly eliminated him--like what Stalin did to Trotsky? (this book has so many parallels with Communism, imho). Discuss ~_^.

I would think that ZLC is gone. I can't see how he is gone to compete again without his sight.

Oh by the way, remember that all the servants in the palace are also enuches... I am sure they have normal voices. :-)

[Demonic Swordsman]

yea...ZLC is out of the picture in terms of leadership of the 5 schools. Theres no way he can even beat YBQ in a fair fight, so he def cant beat him without his eyesight. I dont see ZLC doing anything fo the rest of the novel...perhaps he could rally some support against YBQ? I dont really see that happening, with the novel almost drawing to a close

[shortsight]

yea...ZLC is out of the picture in terms of leadership of the 5 schools. Theres no way he can even beat YBQ in a fair fight, so he def cant beat him without his eyesight. I dont see ZLC doing anything fo the rest of the novel...perhaps he could rally some support against YBQ? I dont really see that happening, with the novel almost drawing to a close

with DFBB gone, ZLC blinded, and now mu gaofeng and shorty yu also dead and LPZ blind, not much things left to wrap. awaiting YBQ vs LHC.

and it seems weird RWX didn't do anything other than killing DFBB after coming out.

[dewyloony123]

yeah, I was just curious about your collective thoughts (and also was changing topics, since Demonic didn't like where we were going XD) on ZLC's disappearance--whether YBQ got rid of him, for instance. In some of the adaptations...

click to show/hide spoilers

The 1980s TVB version I think had ZLC surviving and causing trouble; in the 2001 version, I think it's implied that YBQ killed ZLC... so I was wondering what really happened. I guess these aren't technically spoilers but I wanted to play it safe

[shortsight]

yeah, I was just curious about your collective thoughts (and also was changing topics, since Demonic didn't like where we were going XD) on ZLC's disappearance--whether YBQ got rid of him, for instance. In some of the adaptations...

click to show/hide spoilers

The 1980s TVB version I think had ZLC surviving and causing trouble; in the 2001 version, I think it's implied that YBQ killed ZLC... so I was wondering what really happened. I guess these aren't technically spoilers but I wanted to play it safe

wow, your spoiler button is impressive. is it done by simply using the spoiler open and close tags?