Difference between skills

[TommyH]

I don't know how to put my question so I'll just have you guys explain to me...

Categorize these skills and explain the difference between these skills:

HL18Z
9Yin
9Yang
YJJ
BMSG

[PJ]

I'll give it a try.

We can classify martial arts into several categories, although of course there are many other equally valid methods to classify these arts.

1. Arts that predominantly cultivate internal energy. This would include 9 Yin, 9 Yang, Yijinjing

2. Arts that predominantly manipulate other people's energy/technique. This would include Beiming Shengong.

3. Arts that primarily develop external technique, Non-weapon. This would include Dragon Palms.

4. Arts that primarily develop weapon skills. Nothing on your list.

[TommyH]

4. Arts that primarily develop weapon skills. Nothing on your list.

Would that be Pixie swordplay? These weapon skills still rely on one's internal power.

Could you explain further on the YJJ/9Yang part? I know they're skills that strengthens one's internal power. But what exactly does it do in detail? Does it turn all of one's internal into pure YJJ internal or 9Yang internal? Let's say there's a extremely-yin skill similar to skills like YJJ and 9Yang...if one learns it does it affect the power of other skills that are extreme-yang like HL18Z and 1YZ?

[TommyH]

Would that be Pixie swordplay? These weapon skills still rely on one's internal power.

Could you explain further on the YJJ/9Yang part? I know they're skills that strengthens one's internal power. But what exactly does it do in detail? Does it turn all of one's internal into pure YJJ internal or 9Yang internal? Let's say there's a extremely-yin skill similar to skills like YJJ and 9Yang...if one learns it does it affect the power of other skills that are extreme-yang like HL18Z and 1YZ?

In addition to this previous post:

Could one learn 9Yang and 9Yin? Or 9Yang and YJJ? Does it affect extreme-yin skills when learning YJJ or 9Yang?

[CDonC]

In addition to this previous post:

Could one learn 9Yang and 9Yin? Or 9Yang and YJJ? Does it affect extreme-yin skills when learning YJJ or 9Yang?

Wasn't Zhang San Feng the only person who learned the complete 9 Yin and Yang? I'm assuming anybody else who would try would suffer a fire deviation.

A little off topic, but exactly why is it dangerous to learn both?

[Ken Cheng]

Wasn't Zhang San Feng the only person who learned the complete 9 Yin and Yang?

He never did so. He only had that portion of the 9 Yeung Jen Ging that he learned from the monk Gok Yeun many years earlier and, as far as we know, Cheung 3 Fung never learned the 9 Yum Jen Ging. As he was in the very last years of his long life by the end of HSDS, it's doubtful that he had the opportunity to do so.

[TommyH]

Wasn't Zhang San Feng the only person who learned the complete 9 Yin and Yang? I'm assuming anybody else who would try would suffer a fire deviation.

A little off topic, but exactly why is it dangerous to learn both?

If one learned complete 9Yin and 9Yang then they'd suffer fire deviation. What if they learned 9Yang and 9Yin, two extreme-yang skills?


PS:

Could you explain further on the YJJ/9Yang part? I know they're skills that strengthens one's internal power. But what exactly does it do in detail? Does it turn all of one's internal into pure YJJ internal or 9Yang internal? Let's say there's a extremely-yin skill similar to skills like YJJ and 9Yang...if one learns it does it affect the power of other skills that are extreme-yang like HL18Z and 1YZ?

[Whsie]

If one learned complete 9Yin and 9Yang then they'd suffer fire deviation. What if they learned 9Yang and 9Yin, two extreme-yang skills?


PS:

Could you explain further on the YJJ/9Yang part? I know they're skills that strengthens one's internal power. But what exactly does it do in detail? Does it turn all of one's internal into pure YJJ internal or 9Yang internal? Let's say there's a extremely-yin skill similar to skills like YJJ and 9Yang...if one learns it does it affect the power of other skills that are extreme-yang like HL18Z and 1YZ?

Not neccesary. It's difficult, but it somehow seems possible to combine 9 Yin/9 Yang. Apparently ZWJ felt that the grandmaster Z3F could do it, but then again, he has the best understanding and philosophy of martial arts in JY's Universe.

If 9 Yang was to combine with XL18Z or Solitary Yang Finger, then theortically speaking, the situation of "achieving softness from extreme hardness" would be achieved. Strangely, XF wasn't described to have this case when H7G and GJ both did.

[TommyH]

Not neccesary. It's difficult, but it somehow seems possible to combine 9 Yin/9 Yang. Apparently ZWJ felt that the grandmaster Z3F could do it, but then again, he has the best understanding and philosophy of martial arts in JY's Universe.

If 9 Yang was to combine with XL18Z or Solitary Yang Finger, then theortically speaking, the situation of "achieving softness from extreme hardness" would be achieved. Strangely, XF wasn't described to have this case when H7G and GJ both did.

But HL18Z and 1YZ are completely different from skills like YJJ.