No comments on Song of the Prince? A costumed ancient drama by the director of Dae Jang Geum and running to 50 Ep.
The first half of the series is available in VCD format in SG.
No comments on Song of the Prince? A costumed ancient drama by the director of Dae Jang Geum and running to 50 Ep.
The first half of the series is available in VCD format in SG.
Is this drama known under different titles? If so, we might not know "song of the Prince" but as other titles.Originally Posted by Surferket
That was the given English name on the vcd box cover.
Originally Posted by Suet Seung
Picture please?Originally Posted by Surferket
Haha I didn't buy it as 1) it was vcd and not dvd 2) it was only part 1 and not complete set.
The cover shows a pretty girl and a handsome young man. The shop girl said the series is from the producer of Dae Jang Geum.
I watched it on their monitor and it has that comical old man who was Jang Geum's adopted father and was also in the series of the medical master.
It could be this one:
"Seo Dong Yo"
The synopsis describes it as "The Ballad of Seo Dong" which would be "Song of the Prince".
Originally Posted by Suet Seung
I wonder who does translation of these titles; they are so wacky you couldn't possibly imagine it refers to Seodongyo. A better and more accurate translation would be "Song of The Pauper".No comments on Song of the Prince?
If you want a comment, I wouldn't recommend it. Just too draggy. The network that produced it sucks at historical dramas and it shows.
But the lead actress is much younger and prettier than Lee Yong Ae, so you choose.
The female lead looks a bit like China's Gao Yuan Yuan.
I'm currently watching this series, up to ep 12 at the moment. quite good. I like the idea of bunch of scientist in the ancient drama costume. the story quite interesting too, it is a bit draggy, but that's good, I can do other thing while watching the series and understand it.. he,he,he... a bit too busy to sit hours infront of tv without doing anything.
Spring Summer Autumn Winter.
Pair ducks nest fly together.
Clemencies. Summer life, feather winter white.
Green meadow in spring, before the autumn bite.
Watching the red gown.
And none else, alone.
I've only just bought it. Watching Ju Mong at the moment but the third part won't be out yet, so filling in. Just so you guys know, it's called "Potato Boy" as Seo Dong means that. I had a hard time trying to find it. Argh!
I think it's less draggy than Ju Mong, but I really enjoy both series. I pretty much watch it the first time round at double speed and will rewatch it after I know the story. So Dong Yo is different in the sense there's more of the childhood and personal struggles of So Dong, while Ju Mong skips over the child bit and goes straight to the palace struggles. Just into the first few episodes, will update if anyone's interested.
I can't believe there aren't more reviews of this. I don't know if the ratings compared to DJG but the story is fantastic and it's kinda got a happy ending. Basically it's loosely based on a famous childhood song, Ballad of Suh Dong. It doesn't follow the original storyline. Probably 5% history and 95% fiction. But whatever, I'm just hooked on it and will probably rewatch if it I can exchange the defective discs.
It's set in the era of the Three Kingdoms of Korea, Shilla, Baekchae and Gogyureo. You can look it up on wikipedia if you want the exact year but I'm not going to fuss too much about it.
Some number of years ago, the King of Baekchae is killed by unscrupulous means by Shilla mercenaries, and his head is buried in public where the Shilla can trod on it at will. Because of the ongoing crossfire, the Baekchae people were unable to get the head back, causing great humiliation and shame. 26 years later there is a temporary truce, and the Baekchae king sends his nephew to grab the head. A celebration has been set up in honor, and the coronation of the crown prince will follow soon after. The king is supposed to abstain from sex etc as it's a sacred occasion. He however gives in to temptation and beds a dancer the night before, causing grave consequences for the lady involved. The courtiers are extremely upset about rumors of the king doing something so shameful and question him. He denies it vehemently. A palace guards claims that he was the one who expressed his feelings for the lady, and gets killed immediately to cover up the act. The lady is forced to keep quiet but later falls pregnant. She was originally betrothed to a technician at the technological college of the time, but he was away to gain his phD. He thinks she's betrayed him and is really upset but does nothing. The lady falls pregnant and is forced to leave the palace in shame, with assassination attempts so as to cover up the shame. As the attempt fails, she confronts the king. He is powerless to defend her as he has limited military power and most of the aristocrat are working against him for their own benefit. His main rival is his brother and nephew, who are eying the throne. However, he gives her a sacred stone, the 5-colored luminous jewel, meant only for royalty. If she is to have a son, she should give the jewel to him for identification purposes. If the child is a daughter, she should just bury it and lead a normal life as there would probably be no cause for persecution. The night she leaves, her ex-betrothed finds a box with a prophecy carved on it, and an incense burner. The prophecy reads that because of a king who was shamed, there became a king who was sorrowful, then came a king who came about as a mistake, but would light the incense burner and restore glory to all of Baekchae. He keeps the incense burner and the prophecy becomes a secret. Try as he might, he cannot light the incense burner. This will become significant later in the story. Meanwhile, he gains his phD and becomes director of the technological college.
Ten years pass. Cang (original name) or Seo Dong (also spelt So Dong or Suhdong - he doesn't get this nickname until he meets the princess) is the child who resulted from the one-night stand with the king. He is an extremely smart boy who keeps questioning why his mother keeps moving from place to place, leaving him with no friends. He suspects that his father may have commited a crime or done something far worse. His mother reassures him that is not the case, that she would tell him about his father when he reaches 20 years of age. But things don't turn out as expected. He gets into mischief in the local village, stealing jewels from aristocratic tombs and bombing people who bullied him and cheated him of the earnings. The mother punishes him but tells him that he needs training to become a great person so that his father will be proud of him. She sends him to the college where her ex is now professor and director, with a letter asking him not to pursue her actions but trust in her.
The ex sees the letter with the boy, and is upset at her betrayal for leaving him. He questions Seo Dong on his knowledge, and finds that not only does he lack formal teaching, he's also barely literate. He rejects the request for enrolment. Undaunted, Seo Dong sneaks back into the college but stumbles upon a cart where a hidden messenger from the crown prince (his brother) is being persecuted by their cousin after their ship sank on a ship. They are assasinated once again, but the messanger asks that the message be sent to the palace guard with his dying breath, that he would be rewarded with all that he desired if he did it. Seo Dong escapes and hatches a plan. He catches a boy whose father worked in the college and beats him up, then asks him to write derogatory messages about the palace guard at the city gates so that it would be noticed. The boy also relays a song that Seo Dong asked him to sing and repeat the message that if he wanted a message from his master he should meet him in the forest. The plan works and he sees the palace guard successfully, but they are persecuted by his cousin's men. The meeting is almost thwarted, but he manages to prove the existence of the message and demands that the professor kneel down before him. They all escape before the message is exchanged. The palace guard relays the mesage to the professor, who is outraged at the suggestion. Seo Dong hides in the college and dirties the well water with soil, makes the metallic implements rust etc, using the principles of the five elements. The professor finally figures out what he's going to do next and meets him there. Seo Dong says that even if he will not accept him as a student, he will tell his mother he escaped by himself, but demands he writes his mother a letter as she's always sad when his name is mentioned. The professor gives in and gets the message from the crown prince, saving the day.
Seo Dong hangs around, rummages through everything in the professor's room and lights the incense burner before he leaves. The day happens to be the day of the coronation of the crown prince. As the crown prince is presumed dead after his ship sank, the coronation goes to the king's brother, Seo Dong's uncle. The stage is broken by a gust of wind at the same time the incense burner is lit. The ceremony goes awry. Seo Dong's uncle/cousin think it's a plot to prevent their branch of the family from ascending the throne by the college. They order a mass assasination. Seo Dong stumbles upon the assasination attempt and warns the college just in time. They all escape together. The king is powerless to protect them.
En route, they pass by Seo Dong's hometown. The professor sees his mother and there is a teary reunion. She refuses to leave with them and insists that Seo Dong go with them to Shilla. She changes her mind at the last moment and chases after them as their boat is leaving. The soldiers are close behind, however, and she gets killed in the ensuing conflict, with Seo Dong bearing withness to the massacre. The rest of them reach Shilla safely. They live in the local villages and make handicrafts for a living at first.
Seo Dong sneaks into the palace in one of the painted/carved cabinets. He gets to know Princess Seonhwa while watching her dance but is unaware of of her status. She kisses him once she finds him in the cabinet and he's totally smitten. She gave him the nickname of Seo Dong in one of their first meetings as he mentions although he led a poor life with his mother, having to dig up sweet potatoes and sell it for a living, but those were the happiest moments of his life. It is thus that the princess helped him tide over the darkest periods of his life. She causes him to get humiliated when a palace guard catches him and spanks him in front of all the palace maids. To make up for it, she invites him to watch her dance in one of the ceremonies by pretending to be one of the flower boys, substituting the original who's left standing out there - this boy later becomes the spy who causes alot of grief for the couple. Seo Dong only finds out that she's a princess as he sits in the well scooping up sacred water to present to her. He's really upset as he knows they will never be together by virtue of her status. He vows to get even but still makes her a gift, rouge made from earthworms. He also writes Seo Dong Yo, a song that's highly catchy, but doesn't get around to disseminating it amongst the kids. He mutters to himself, thinking he'll never get to see her again, but the princess pops out from one of the cabinets that was returned to the village for retouching and snatches the song from him, impressed that it's so catchy. This is one of the first tokens of their love. They go out riding and exchange tokens. The princess demands the luminous jewel his mother entrusted him before he died, but he refuses, instead giving her his identity badge from Baekchae, which causes the whole group from Baekchae to be persecuted when she drops it in the palace grounds. Seo Dong is meant to escape with the rest once he finds out about it but detours to have a last look at the princess, but he causes a few other kids who were his companions to be caught. They are tortured and imprisoned and refuse to yield as they cannot give up Baekchae technology even for their lives based on the code of honor of the college. All die except for Seo Dong and he is held responsible for their deaths. He's unconscious and taken to be dead. All the bodies are left in the mountains. Seo Dong wakes up and is devastated. The professor is disappointed with him and refuses to take him in. While they all hide in the mountains, they leave Seo Dong in isolation for 10 years and he begs for their forgiveness each year.
This is an era of espionage as Shilla is behind in many technologies, and Baekchae itself lacks technologies that China possesses. The Shilla court is aware of their existence but since even the children refused to yield, they take another approach. The boy Seo Dong replaced at the ceremony is also in love with the princess, confronting her about she substituted him. She replied that because it was a ceremony to thank the gods for a bountiful harvest, it was more appropriate for a peasant boy who has benefit most from the returns to offer thanks, that the gods would be more accepting of their offerings. He is disappointed. He asks the king for a mission - he would be a spy for them and obtain the records of all Baekchae technology. In return, he wants the hand of Princess Seonhwa in marriage. The Shilla king agrees. The spy pretends to be a Baekchae orphan and infiltrates the college, with love showered upon him in contrast to the hate they have for Seo Dong. He flourishes and learns all he can while passing messages to the Shilla court. Seo Dong works hard to gain their forgiveness, enduring harsh words and taking exams to gain entrance to their college officially. He gets all the answers right, but he's still barely literate as he has bee isolated for 10 years and they think he's cheated. Turns out he's been stealing books and memorising the words without knowing their meaning. They finally accept him and send him on a mission into the city to gain materials for more handicraft.
Meanwhile the princess is regretful that her carelessness caused her childhood companion to be killed. She learns that he's still alive through the palace guards and disseminates the ballad in order to find him. The king is angry that she would do something unbefitting a princess and sends her out to a temple to repent her wrongdoings. The monk she's with allows her to go wandering. Seo Dong hears the song in the marketplace and knows that someone's looking for him. The princess buries a note in the cave where she and Seo Dong gathered before. He sees the note and asks that she not try to find him again as he has his own path to tread, that they're too different to be together.
The Baekchae crown prince needs new technology for better weapons and armory in order to satisfy their neighboring countries and gain an alliance. Seo Dong manages to figure out a way to manufacture the items. They try to get it to the crown prince safely but encounter road checks on the way that make it look like Seo Dong was the spy. The college gets suspicious and pins all information leaks on Seo Dong. He later gets the technology to the right person anyhow, but gets banished again before the college gets to know it. He encounters the princess along the way, and they recognize each other immediately. She takes him in as her guard and travel together for some time. The college finally get hold of evidence that proves Seo Dong is not a spy. Seo Dong hesitates but eventually returns. He still meets up with the princess in private. The spy also tries to court the princess by giving her handicrafts of his own making but is again devastated as he finds out about Seo Dong's existence in the princess's life.
The spy learns about the compilation of all Baekchae technologies and attempts to get the information to the Shilla court. The college sets a trap to find the traitor by putting chemicals on a fake volume of the compilation. Both the spy and Seo Dong are implicated. The princess is forced to choose when the spy tells her about his identity. She has to tell the professor who it was that betrayed the college. She chooses to make it appear like it was Seo Dong, but tells the professor that she only did it because Seo Dong refused to leave the college, that he knew nothing about it. She convinces the professor of their love and he lets them go even when Seo Dong was supposed to face the death penalty. The college know about Seo Dong's affair with a Shilla woman, but not that she's a princess. They live together for a while, but the princess gets captured and sent back to the palace.
The spy attempts to gain access to the compilation and wants to kill all the people in the college after he succeeds. The princess thwarts him, but by a twist of fate, the spy gets shot and the whole group escape back to Baekchae once they get pardoned by the king for their past crimes as they've made significant contributions to Baekchae through their inventions. The Shilla court wants the princess punished for thwarting the massacre on the college, and her affair with Seo Dong is made public. She escapes to Baekchae when she was supposed to be a nun. The spy is accused of betraying his own country and his whole family is massacred as the king seeks to protect his daughter's reputation.
The whole gang relocates to Baekchae back to the college. They are split into two groups as one sides with the professor for protecting Seo Dong and hiding his affair with a Shilla woman, while the spy pretends to object to his dishonorable behavior, instead working for the Baekchae faction belonging to Seo Dong's uncle and cousin. There is a whole lot of palace conflict. Seo Dong finally figures out he's the king's son, but doesn't tell anyone. He helps the crown prince on many occasions and seeks to protect him until the king can abdicate in his favor. However, his cousin succeeds in assasinating the crown prince with the help of the spy and claims that it's the fourth/hidden son (Seo Dong) who instigated the murder. Seo Dong comes up with a plan to reveal the mastermind but is thwarted as his third brother dies of illness. There is noone else left as all his brothers are dead, and the king wants to give up his throne to his brother. Seo Dong is extremely disappointed. The professor then tells the king that Seo Dong is his son, and the king is remorseful for not having even tried to protect him. He plans to kill his nephew while pretending to abdicate in favor of his brother, after making Seo Dong the crown prince in private, but the plan fails and there is a palace coup whereby his brother usurps the throne with help from his son, the king's nephew. The king is killed in an ensuing struggle but manages to tell the citizens that he will only recognize his fourth son as the current crown prince. His nephew/Seo Dong's cousin orders a full massacre of all soldiers and citizens in the vicinity. Seo Dong's uncle ascends the throne.
Meanwhile Princess Seonhwa also comes to Baekchae and pretends to be a Chinese merchant. She gets entangled in the many palace struggles, helping Seo Dong immensely, while worrying for his wellbeing and being there for him every step of the way.
Seo Dong pretends that the actual crown prince is dead and surrenders to his uncle/cousin while plotting a coup. There are many hitches in the plan, and his cousin ascends the throne after the king succuumbs to illness. Seo Dong plans a huge coup after disseminating rumors that his cousin killed not only Seo Dong's father and the old crown prince but his own father as well. The citizens are angry at the usurper and support Soe Dong in his quest for justice. The aristocrats also switch sides as they calculate their own interests. Seo Dong ascends the throne after much trial and tribulations, and attempts to put forward policies to improve the lives of the citizens. He does meet with resistance from the aristocrats as he tries to take lands away from them. They find evidence of his "collaboration" with Shilla - Princess Seonhwa's father sent soldiers to force her back to Shilla by threatening to support Seo Dong's coup and make him seem like a traitor of the people. She is forced to leave. There's a slight love triangle as Seo Dong's female cousin, the daugher of his uncle who's from a different mother to his usurper cousin, also falls for him. She gets banished from the palace as she backs him up, even after knowing he was the actual crown prince. She does threaten his marriage to Princess Seonhwa by marrying him herself to preserve her family's power but eventually comes round to helping him after she realizes that a loveless marriage was not what she wanted. She then leaves the palace.
The spy escapes death many times throughout the conflicts and is upset that the princess is marrying Seo Dong, even more sore that even is own aristocratic birth is beneath that of Seo Dong who is actual royalty. He attempts to assassinate Seo Dong the night before his marriage to the princess by infiltrating a sword dance display. Seo Dong reasons with him. He accuses Seo Dong of snatching everything away from him and destroying everything he ever knew, subjecting him to a life of betrayal with his love. Seo Dong counters that he always had a choice. It is not Seo Dong's love which has destroyed, but the spy's lack of love for anything and everything, letting the ends justify the means. While Seo Dong was making handicrafts and rouge for the princess to try to win her heart with sincerity even knowing her status, the spy was busy striking a bargain with the king to obtain the princess. He calculated each and everyone of his move, having no love for any of the things that he chose to do, from the undercover mission, his new master when he chose Seo Dong's uncle/cousin and betrayed the entire college to the act of massacre when Seo Dong's cousin ordered it, even when he knew it was wrong. The spy knows that Seo Dong is right. He gets shot by the palace guards after leaving Seo Dong unharmed. He claims that the sword dance was the only proof of his aristocratic upbringing and his love for the princess, practising so that he could present her the sacred water Seo Dong usurped so many years ago, that he did once love her even if noone knew about it.
Seo Dong and the princess marry without further event. Three years later, Shilla started attacking Baekchae repeatedly even after Princess Seonhwa's marriage to Seo Dong was meant to forge an alliance. The aristocrats pressure Seo Dong to kill his queen himself. He refuses and leads the attacks Shilla to defend his queen, saying that Shilla not only betrayed Baekchae, but the queen herself. Princess Seonhwa's health gets weaker after the final battle, and they take one final trip to the place where Seo Dong grew up. They do menial chores together, enjoying their last moments as the queen fades away. The professor presents Seo Dong with the last gifts, symbols of royalty that the queen ordered for Seo Dong before her death. Seo Dong holds the rings that she had made out of wood when they first lived together after they eloped, and promises to cherish her memories forever.
All in all an excellent show. That's the best I can do for now. All the palace struggles are a bit hard to remember, and I hope the lack of names apart from the male and female protagonists haven't made things too hard to understand. The Chinese subtitles were bad enough, but the English ones are horrendous. Hope this helps more people decide if they want to watch it. I wish they didn't kill off the queen. I'm just left with this ache. I guess I feel more for characters in TV serials, esp K-drama than I do in real life. The dialogue is excellent, as are the central themes. It's less emotionally taxing than DJG.
Can't wait for the 3rd part of Ju Mong to be released now!
Last edited by Aphraeleiss; 11-18-06 at 07:12 AM.
I'm only at the beginning of Volume 2 and it's getting good. At first it was boring and I thought Seodong was gonna be stupid, the kind that is righteous but doesn't think and therefore causes trouble for himself and other people. That's kinda how he was when he was little, and still a bit like that when he grew up. But he got smarter afterall . I actually like his obstinacy, because it's kinda arrogant in a way, how he uses it to force the bad guy into letting him have what he wants.
One question, does anyone know who plays Eunjin (daughter of Mojin) and what other dramas she is in? I love this girl. She's so pure and her heart's so good. Not the demure, innocent kind you normally see though. She's good because she's unpretentious and there's just something about her that makes her so genuine. Aww, I wish there's another Jang for her.
You are right on! I just finished watching the series and I thought it was excellent. The actress that plays the princess is top notch. And that spy guy! Every time I saw him on the screen I wanted to throw something (soft) at him!
His undoing was his own fault no one elses. I liked the backdrop of the college and the dedication of the "professors" as they laboured to find new methods of creating or improving on their assignments. I felt bad for the other princess, she really loved the prince. I am not quite sure when she started loving him. At first she wouldn't give hm the time of day then she was in love with him. When did that happen? Great series all around.
Too bad there is so little discussion about this series. It is excellent! Its the first period Korean drama to inspire me to actually look up the history.
I'm captivated by Lee Bo Young playing the princess...I usually go for acting skill and charisma, but her looks and presence really tip the balance. She looks wonderful in her various outfits. She does well in emotional scenes but I think she needs to work on her 'political espionage' persona.
I always dig for the underdog and I so love Ryu Jin as Gi Ru. I find him more handsome than the male lead. He's so calm and talented, and yes his jealousy/hate distorted his actions, but I never doubted his love for the princess. I thought it was so sweet when he made the bow and arrows for the princess.
Another thing that really captured my attention was the dialogue. Although annoyed sometimes with repetition (they overdid it in some instances between the princess and potato boy), generally its pretty involved, interesting, and moving. Like the official edit that asks for the princess' hand in marriage, I thought that was beautiful. Especially when its followed by a private letter detailing a little boy's love for a princess even when she hadn't realized it yet.
Simply beautiful...can't wait to get my copy.
Besides DJG and Jumong, this is also one of my favourite period drama too!
Both the actor and actress are pretty good looking and they are very compatible with each other in this drama.
I love their OST!
Seo = one of the couplet characters for 'potato'
Dong = 'boy'
Yo = 'folk song/ballad'
An approximate translation would be 'Ballad of Potato Boy'. 'Ballad' specifically denotes it as a folk song with limited stanzas, following only a simple and quite often repetitive melody. 'Potato Boy' being that the supposed protagonist from history gave potatoes to beggar children in the streets in exchange for spreading his ballad. In the series, it has an added significance that the princess giving Chang Er the nickname 'Seo Dong/Potato Boy' because he expressed that his happiest memories involved selling potatoes with his mother during hard times.
Even though I personally didn't like Da Chang Jin, I wouldn't say the network "sucks" at historical dramas considering how popular it became. There has to be something going for it if it creates an 'Asian media wave'. Also depends on one's opinion of draggy. While Da Chang Jin was draggy to me, SeoDongYao wasn't. But then, I think LOTR is draggy while its the 2nd most read text beside the Bible.
No, I posted that I was "inspired" by the show to look up Korean history. I didn't do it to find historical inaccuracies. The show wasn't meant to be a historical documentary. It's purpose was to be entertaining, and moving via the romance side, and it did just that IMO. The show itself is based on a 'ballad'. This is basically a tool for the common people to pass down significant event to future generations - it being orally recorded history actually weakens its stand to being 'accurate history' anyway, because evidence is more often than not insubstantial/inconclusive. Although there was a focus on Baekchae's Mu King, just because production 'borrowed' a historical character doesn't mean they have to be accurate about who he was or what he did. That would mean Jin Yong's novels would all be crappy too because he used historical characters without being particularly accurate to history either. Historical records about kings are more often than not, pompous, dry, embellished reading anyway...I know, I've studied it. History itself is perspective...I don't see the reasoning of comparing a potential variable with an existing variable. Truth can be a a 'control' but history is plainly not 'truth'.And you find that the drama had nothing to do with actual history, and that you have been had by "creative" writers.
The only thing this drama had anything to do with actual history was that the princess was drop-dead gorgeous, that's all.
Along those lines, how the flying monkeys would anyone know if the real princess was "drop dead gorgeous"? I'd like to see the scanned evidence and computerized reconstruction of her features to judge that (which they've done for Nefertiti).
If anyone is interested, the princess' title/name 'Sun Hwa' translates to 'Benevolent Flower'. Weird in English but sounds sweet and nice in Chinese. 'Flower' usually carried feminine and maidenly connotations.
I just love the OST song 'Flower Hue'.
It's basically a song from the princess' perspective. The following are the lyrics in Chinese. The bittersweet meaning combined with the song moves to the core.
Looking up into the empty heights, I immerse myself into the blue sky.
My pitiful heart, enfolds all my love into it's bosom.
Flower petals wither, does that mean love should follow such a fate?
The longing of my heart cannot speak out, there is nowhere for me to turn.
During the wasted moons, my tears of hope have become a river.
My flawed love, only leaves emptiness and regret.
I wish to leave with you, yet Jiang river separates us to two lands.
I will live in flowers' hues, crying for the most beautiful love.
I took some literary liberty with the translation just to make it make sense in English. Haven't played with English and Chinese poetry for ages, so don't blame me if it sounds funny.
Last edited by NuDaFu; 04-11-08 at 09:36 AM.