in roch, after HYS helped to heal YG, YG's vital energy flow was activated and he gave a loud yell that was heard for several li. HYS thought to himself that he achieved this level 10yrs later then YG (should be same for the other greats). since the greats were about 35 when they compeated at haushan, their level would have been YG from that point plus 5yrs of practise. roughly at ma yu inner level power with HR level skills. the greats trained hard after that and made a breakthrough, which i assume is not a gradually improvement of +5%increase of inner power and skills every year but a sudden increase to 1.5X of their previous level every year in the following 20yrs to the secound huashan tournament. (since a great is equal to seven QZ elders in a formation). the 'ordinary' first class fighters like lu yoajia are in the gradually improve with +5% each year type. way slower.Originally Posted by bluebook
HR told GJ at the martial arts meet that at YG's age, GJ was not as good in martial arts. YG was between 18 to 19 then, and GJ was a level to a half level below qui qiren at age 19 to 20. GJ improved to being better then the greats about 14yrs later when YG was 12yrs old. but both of them should be about the same level at age 19yrs till YG got the snake gallbladders.