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    Default How did Yeung Gor know that the Heavy Iron Sword was the "right" sword for him?

    When Yeung Gor went to Dook Goo Kau Bai's cave after having lost his arm, he was presented four of Dook Goo Kau Bai's swords by the Divine Condor: the first sword, I believe, was known for its extraordinary sharpness and was used by Dook Goo Kau Bai in his youth. The second sword was the Flexible Sword. The third sword was the infamous Heavy Iron Sword. The fourth sword was the Wooden Sword (the last material sword that Dook Goo Kau Bai supposedly used during his lifetime).

    How did Yeung Gor arrive at the conclusion that the Heavy Iron Sword was the right one for him? It was heavy, awkward, and blunt...the *last* weapon you'd imagine that a fighter who had just lost his right arm would want to claim as his new armament of choice. What led Yeung Gor to pick this sword rather than Dook Goo Kau Bai's other swords? I could see why he wouldn't want to use the Wooden Sword at that stage, but why not the first sword (the sharp one?) or the Flexible Sword?

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    Yeung Gor didn't decide. The bird decided for him. The bird gave YG the heavy sword, but YG thought it was too heavy and picked up the light sword to spar with Mr. Eagle. Mr. Eagle ignored him so YG kind of figured out that the bird wanted to spar with him with the heavy sword.

    Woud be bad for YG's developement if he trained with the light sword first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bai Qi44
    Woud be bad for YG's developement if he trained with the light sword first.
    Why so? Had he already bypassed it, making it redundant for him to do so?

    I imagine he would have followed Dook Goo Kau Bai's progression from the beginning up, but maybe Yeung Gor's earlier martial arts background obviated the need for that.

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    Basically, the condor wanted a sparring partner and the light sword in Yang Guo's hand is no challenge against it. The flexible sword was discarded into oblivion.

    Yang Guo was ultimately capable of figuring out the wonderful sword technique of Dugu Qiubai because he was well versed in the three best sword techniques known in his time. Quan Zhen sword play, Jade Maiden sword play, and the Jade Flute sword play. Add to that his knowledge of 9 yin swordplay, which Wang Chong Yang would have written in the tomb to counter the Jade Maiden swordplay. He also had the Dog Beating stick and staff technique of Ouyang Feng. All these external techniques were among the most powerful of that time. Coupled with his intelligence and the Divine Condor's homicidal tendencies, he was able to figure out what "simplicity brings superiority" means.
    Burying his Dugu 9 Jian manual under an epitaph, Dugu Qiubai felt he has left his legacy for the next generation. He then moved to Shaolin to study Buddhism, sweep floors and tap elite fighters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardor
    Basically, the condor wanted a sparring partner and the light sword in Yang Guo's hand is no challenge against it. The flexible sword was discarded into oblivion.

    Yang Guo was ultimately capable of figuring out the wonderful sword technique of Dugu Qiubai because he was well versed in the three best sword techniques known in his time. Quan Zhen sword play, Jade Maiden sword play, and the Jade Flute sword play. Add to that his knowledge of 9 yin swordplay, which Wang Chong Yang would have written in the tomb to counter the Jade Maiden swordplay. He also had the Dog Beating stick and staff technique of Ouyang Feng. All these external techniques were among the most powerful of that time. Coupled with his intelligence and the Divine Condor's homicidal tendencies, he was able to figure out what "simplicity brings superiority" means.

    It wasn't the flexible sword. It was the light sword. The flexible sword was the 2nd stage of DGKB's developement and I guess YG didn't think he was worthy of going to stage 2 right away. The bird thought otherwise and made YG trained at stage 3 of DGKB's progress.

    Anyway, if YG trained with the light sword first, he wouldn't reach the Greats' stage in his 30's. I think the heavy sword really helped him developed his inner power in a way.
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    If he had picked the light or flexible sword, there'd be nothing much for him to train. The bird can't teach sophisticated techniques or formulaes, so he'll just be practising his old sword skills with those swords. He won't get to Great level that way.
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    yea he increased his inner strength by practicing in the rivers and being able to lift that heaving thing with one hand.. and training against the force of a waterfall really strengthened his strength and internal energy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bai Qi44
    The flexible sword was the 2nd stage of DGKB's developement .
    Which Dugu cast into oblivion because with it he hurt a righteous man. Unless the 3rd version retconned that.
    Burying his Dugu 9 Jian manual under an epitaph, Dugu Qiubai felt he has left his legacy for the next generation. He then moved to Shaolin to study Buddhism, sweep floors and tap elite fighters.

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    YG wanted to use the lightsword as he felt the heavy sword was too heavy for him. the condor turned it's back on him when he did. pride spured him to use the heavy sword. also YG knew the heavy sword was the superior one, since he figured the condor was trying to teach him DGKB's swordskills, he decided to give his best in using the heavy sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardor
    Which Dugu cast into oblivion because with it he hurt a righteous man. Unless the 3rd version retconned that.
    Oops. Sorry, but there's a misunderstanding on my part. When you added the sentence "The flexible sword was discarded into oblivion" for no reason whatsoever, I thought you meant YG picked up the flexible sword. I shoul'dve read it more clearly. Oops. You obviously meant YG picked up the light sword and that's also what I meant.
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