In wuxia, guys tend to move on, girls don't.

[Yeung Gor]

Do you guys noticed that males in wuxia don't have as much trouble moving on from one love to another, while the females simply hold on to the same love forever, even staying single for life.

LHC moved on, the Wu brothers moved on. But we see countless number of wuxia females that stay lonely forever when their love is not returned. Why do you suppose the authors wrote them that way?

[Huang Rong]

that's simple. all the popular wuxia authors are male. n they all have a bit of the selfishness of man.
anyway, not all girls holds their first love eternally. Shui Ling in The Linked city turned her love to Di Yun.

[Yeung Gor]

that's simple. all the popular wuxia authors are male. n they all have a bit of the selfishness of man.
anyway, not all girls holds their first love eternally. Shui Ling in The Linked city turned her love to Di Yun.

How do the female wuxia authors portray their females characters? How different are their style from male authors?

[Huang Rong]

I don't know.
AFAIK, there've not been any famous female wuxia author so far.
Hehe, if it were I who wrote wuxia novels, my female major characters would beat the other male greats n would not fall for unfaithful boys such as zhang wuji, duan yu,...

[Yeung Gor]

I don't know.
AFAIK, there've not been any famous female wuxia author so far.
Hehe, if it were I who wrote wuxia novels, my female major characters would beat the other male greats n would not fall for unfaithful boys such as zhang wuji, duan yu,...

Would the main character be female or male?

[Suet Seung]

Do you guys noticed that males in wuxia don't have as much trouble moving on from one love to another, while the females simply hold on to the same love forever, even staying single for life.

LHC moved on, the Wu brothers moved on. But we see countless number of wuxia females that stay lonely forever when their love is not returned. Why do you suppose the authors wrote them that way?

I'd venture a guess on the influence of Confucian ways. Women since they were born are to listen to their fathers (as well as mother, but probably more father, because the father is the head of the family but when the father is not around, she listens to her mother), then when they get married their life is to be dutiful wives and mothers to their children and also pay respect to their in-laws and other family. Even if a woman's husband die, she has to remain faithful and not remarry anyone her whole life and take care of the kids. (My knowledge on Confucian teachings is limited so this what I get, I may be wrong at some parts).

But yeah, I guess from a Confucian view, women are always suppose to remain faithful to the men, no matter if they're married to them or not? I guess if a woman in wuxia literature were to have change of hearts she's just fickle and I don't know maybe theres no reason, just that it's more tragic that way and men back then are allowed to marry five wives and four concubines (as the saying goes)...so guys can move on faster than women.


BTW "Huang Rong" are you related to RongYingMin, your IP is somewhat similar to RYM.

[Guo Xiang]

You want girls who kicks men's butts? You want more of the unconventional female characters in wuxia? You want to see guys who doesn't move on when ditched by their girls (in one way or another) instead? Read Liang Yusheng's novels.

[Candide]

Let's see... The girls who moved on are:

- Yue Lingsan: LHC -> LPZ
- Wang Yuyen (at least in the 1st and 2nd eds - not sure about 3rd): MRF -> DY
- Shui Ling (in LCJ): her apprentice brother -> DY
- Ah Ka (?) in LDJ, WXB's wife: Zheng whathisname -> WXB
- Fang Yi in LDJ, WXB's wife: her apprentice brother -> WXB
- That ex-wife of the Divine Dragon cult: her ex-husband -> WXB
- The princess in LDJ: WSQ's son -> WXB (although you can argue that her 1st husband never got to do anything with her anyway so it doesn't count )
- Wanyan Ping in ROCH: Yang Guo -> one of the Wu brothers (haha )

There are probably more but I need to do some work this morning.

[Candide]

BTW "Huang Rong" are you related to RongYingMin, your IP is somewhat similar to RYM.

They have identical signatures, just that one is in English and the other in Chinese.

[HuangYushi]

that's simple. all the popular wuxia authors are male. n they all have a bit of the selfishness of man.
anyway, not all girls holds their first love eternally. Shui Ling in The Linked city turned her love to Di Yun.

Shui SHENG.

[flyingfox2002]

Isn't Shui Ling the actress who played Ms. Mu in LOCH2003?

Anyway, I think this topic is a case of misperception.

The ratio of female characters who don't get the guy to male characters who don't get the girl is high due simply to the fact that JY is a man. He will write about a man having lots of potential love interests. Of the few men who lost the girl, they certainly didn't move on easily, as you may suggest. LHC took forever, and even idiotically took a sword to the torso just so his lost love doesn't get embarrassed in a duel. Di Yun never forgets his xiao si mei either. QF/XF never touched another woman after Ah Zhu. Huang Yaoshi never did either. It doesn't even appear that Ouyang Feng did either after his sister-in-law died.

There's some female wuxia writer, I don't remember her name. In her novels the tide gets turned. The female leads have many suitors, as is the norm in real life. JY just likes to indulge in a man's fantasy. Hell, I would love to have many hotties to choose from too.

[Ken Cheng]

Some might say it parallels trends in reality.

Stop looking at me like that: I'm not saying that *I* think it's that way (although maybe I do).

[strife_au]

Do you guys noticed that males in wuxia don't have as much trouble moving on from one love to another, while the females simply hold on to the same love forever, even staying single for life.

LHC moved on, the Wu brothers moved on. But we see countless number of wuxia females that stay lonely forever when their love is not returned. Why do you suppose the authors wrote them that way?

What about GL novels.
Guys can do as many girls as they want there.
LXF moved on from many ?

[RongYingMin]

I like the novels in which the 2 main characters fall in love only one time during their lifetimes, er..., perhaps because I live in a strictly oriental traditional family.
Hehe, just like in the song Don't let me down of the Beatles:
"I'm in love for the first time
Don't you know its gonna last
It's a love that lasts forever
It's a love that had no past."

Would the main character be female or male?

1 male and 1 female .

- Ah Ka (?) in LDJ, WXB's wife: Zheng whathisname -> WXB
- Fang Yi in LDJ, WXB's wife: her apprentice brother -> WXB
- That ex-wife of the Divine Dragon cult: her ex-husband -> WXB

Sorry Madam, but it seems that none of the above characters can be counted as a girl who moved on. They married that scoundrel-gallant guy Wei Xiaobao only because of being violated by him.

BTW "Huang Rong" are you related to RongYingMin, your IP is somewhat similar to RYM.

Uhm, you guess it right, Miss Suet Seung. Huang Rong is my new nick.

Shui SHENG.

LoL, I was mistaken the character Shui SHENG for the actress Shui Ling.

[windstorm]

Do you guys noticed that males in wuxia don't have as much trouble moving on from one love to another, while the females simply hold on to the same love forever, even staying single for life.

LHC moved on, the Wu brothers moved on. But we see countless number of wuxia females that stay lonely forever when their love is not returned. Why do you suppose the authors wrote them that way?

it's written from a male point of view

[mawguy]

wuxia novels propagate many traditional chinese values and views, so why not the double-standards for women vs. men? if huang rong, for example, acted like lin xin'e, she'd be called a sl**, and she wouldn't be considered a heroine, and hell would be raised if guo jing actually married her.

as others have pointed out, wuxia novels are mainly written by men for men, so attitudes toward women and their gender roles are obvious, commonplace, and often subconsciously done.

just to add that li xunhuan took a long time to have a change of heart. and yang guo never did.

[Huang Rong]

Novels, TV adaptations with girls, men like Lin Xin'er, Lu Xiaofeng, Chu Liuxiang,... who change theirs lovers as easily as change a coat make me fed up with.
Equality for both man n woman in wuxia novels is not necessarily in that way.

[kidd]

Novels, TV adaptations with girls, men like Lin Xin'er, Lu Xiaofeng, Chu Liuxiang,... who change theirs lovers as easily as change a coat make me fed up with.
Equality for both man n woman in wuxia novels is not necessarily in that way.

Isn't Lin Xian-er a woman? Or are u talking about someone else?

[Huang Rong]

Uhm, woman.
Lol, it seems that I was mistaken. Lin Xin'er sounds very like the name of an actress who played Huan Zhou Ge Ge, she has nothing to do with this thread.
I mean Lin Xian'er, the most loathsome fictional woman I've ever known.

[Qin_Shu_Bao]

Well, women tend to hold onto grudges longer than men; I suppose the same goes for their relationships. A woman`s rage is like an uncontrollable wave in the ocean; the same can be applied to her love?