Sword Meet of Mount Wah: Round 1: Group 1

[Neo26988]

Umm...ummm....umm...
WCY died early, so he didn't really get to develop as much I guess...

WCY didn't exactly die early, as in a young age. He died when he was probably about 80 or so. By that time his martial arts was well developed. The question that usually surrounds him though, is exactly how much higher was his martial arts compared to everyone else at the first Mt Hua tournament.

[redfirefly124]

WCY didn't exactly die early, as in a young age. He died when he was probably about 80 or so. By that time his martial arts was well developed. The question that usually surrounds him though, is exactly how much higher was his martial arts compared to everyone else at the first Mt Hua tournament.

True, but still earlier than Yi Deng, Huang Yao Shi, Ou Yang Feng, Hong Qi Gong...and they were about his age....I think. Which means the other greats probably got more developed...

[Dennis Chen]

True, but still earlier than Yi Deng, Huang Yao Shi, Ou Yang Feng, Hong Qi Gong...and they were about his age....I think. Which means the other greats probably got more developed...

Ouyang Feng and Hong Qi Gong were probably in their 70's when they died.

[LuNaR]

guo jin cause i never saw dgsd, so i cant vote xf

[The_One]

Xiao Feng FTW!!

[yittz]

Poor WCY - in the same category as two of the most loved protagonists.

[Xiao Feng]

Wang Chongyang. He was undefeated.

WCY need only wear Xiao Feng out. WCY has defeated XL18Z which is an improved XL28Z. WCY for the win.

WCY has defeated XL18Z before. Kong Ming Quan is based upon WCY's martial arts principles. WCY received a profound understanding of 9 Ying after only a single reading. He can tell that Guo Jing's internal is 9 Ying. WCY for the win.

WCY has defeated Yi Deng before. He can do it again.

Except you don't fight the martial art, you fight the martial artist.

For example, I defeated a karate master. That doesn't mean I'll necessarily have the same result against ALL karate masters.

Also, knowing is different from doing. WCY may know what to expect from GJ and have some ideas how to handle him, but doing it is an entirely different kettle of fish.

As for beating Yi Deng before. Yi Deng isn't a block of wood. People improve, people change and people learn from defeat. Therefore, what happened before may not be what may happen in the future, especially when between equals/near equals.

[Dennis Chen]

Except you don't fight the martial art, you fight the martial artist.

For example, I defeated a karate master. That doesn't mean I'll necessarily have the same result against ALL karate masters.

In that case, Wang Chongyang was undefeated in his lifetime, even though his martial art itself was defeated.

[LuNaR]

wcy didnt hav a fair fight anyways, i mean he coulda juss sat back and wait for the four other greats to injure themselves, then jump in and defeat them all, and also he was way older than the other greats, i think if the other greats were his age, they woulda been equal if not better

[augster123]

absolutely no love for Southern Monk Yi Deng eh? hahaha even his disciple QQR got 1 vote. what a tragedy for the Dali Kingdom.

[Neo26988]

wcy didnt hav a fair fight anyways, i mean he coulda juss sat back and wait for the four other greats to injure themselves, then jump in and defeat them all, and also he was way older than the other greats, i think if the other greats were his age, they woulda been equal if not better

I think that's the great mystery of WCY. That no one really knows his true martial arts level. Sorta like DGQB. Even though his history is more known than the latters.

Truth is, in his old age ZBT still thought of not only WCY but his MA level in such high regard that it tells you he's probably at least the rest of the Greats' equals at the end of ROCH. And despite that bond the two share, i'd like to think ZBT could be somewhat objective in his assessment.

[redfirefly124]

absolutely no love for Southern Monk Yi Deng eh? hahaha even his disciple QQR got 1 vote. what a tragedy for the Dali Kingdom.

Yi Deng's just not as....interesting?

Ouyang Feng and Hong Qi Gong were probably in their 70's when they died.

Do you have the ages of the other greats by any change? Thanks.

[Neo26988]

From Memory:

WCY died at 80 or thereabouts before LOCH started.

End of ROCH:
HYS and YD would be around 90. ZBT was 100 or thereabouts.
GJ = Approaching his 60's???
YG = In his 30's???

[Ken Cheng]

What doesn't help South Emperor/Monk Deun Chi Hing/1 Deng is that we just don't see him fight very much, and it seemed like he got injured/lost power every time he did anything with 1 Yeung Finger Technique. We know how powerful the other Greats were because we saw them own weaker fighters all the time, but the only real fight scene 1 Deng was in throughout his appearances in LOCH and ROCH was the fight against the Golden Wheel Monk, and even that doesn't tell us much because he had two other Greats (Chow Bak Tung and East Heretic Wong Yerk See) helping him. We mainly know that he's a Great because he fought in the First Mt. Hua Sword Tournament; we actually get to see very few exhibits of Greats-level fighting prowess.

[LuNaR]

i voted for the metal palm guy, i do think he has a chance vs yi deng cause yi deng is too nice

[Xiao Feng]

In that case, Wang Chongyang was undefeated in his lifetime, even though his martial art itself was defeated.

Rocky Marciano was undefeated as well. Doesn't mean he'll definitely beat Ali.

Anyway, just to clarify myself, I do rate WCY higher (not by much) than the rest of the original greats.

[Felix]

Rocky Marciano was undefeated as well. Doesn't mean he'll definitely beat Ali.

Anyway, just to clarify myself, I do rate WCY higher (not by much) than the rest of the original greats.

Speaking of boxing, did anyone watch the new Rocky Balboa movie. In the movie, they claimed that 30 years ago, they set up a simulation match for Rocky Marciano vs Muhammad Ali, and Rocky won in the simulation. Did that actually happen in real life, or was that made up? I know we can't decide outcomes on computers, but just wondering if they actually had this set up in the 70s back then.

[Xiao Feng]

Apparently they did; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sup...rciano_vs._Ali

[CC]

I declare this poll invalid! There is no Wong Chongyang! Zhong Shen Tong's name is Wang, not Wong.

Restart!

[chibidaisuke]

Xiao Feng ftw! Doubt any of the others listed are as strong and can defeat him.