View Poll Results: Which side would win? Keep in mind Jin Yong wrote Quanzhen+OYF=unbeatable

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  • Ouyang Feng + 4 Masters of Quanzhen

    8 29.63%
  • Sweeper Monk + SPT + Murong Longchen + 4 DGSD Elites + Z3F + DFBB + QGQB + S.G. ZBF + 3 XY Elders

    19 70.37%
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    JY also said we shouldnt compare characters from different novels! right? :S
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnhHung
    Perhaps it is wiser for us to concentrate on the intention of the (s)words, rather than the literal meaning of the (s)words.
    I agree. Wuxia writers in general tend to get a bit carried away when describing the feats of great martial artists. Granted, Jin Yong wasn't nearly as bad as Gu Long about this, but as this example shows, he was prone to it as well.

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    it takes ....um 5 taps from SM to kill those quan zan and OYF
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    It's like you're deliberately not taking the context that's meant there and putting it up for debate just to see what happens in this forum.

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    I think Jin Yong's writing *may* have improved a little by the time he wrote DGSD. Because in describing Xuzhu's invincibility, Jin Yong wrote:

    Even if the SWORD GOD acquired 30 more years of internal energy, his sword would nevertheless be deprived by Xuzhu's Xiaoyao hand technique.

    This time He did not say no matter how high SWORD GOD's martial arts...
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ
    I think Jin Yong's writing *may* have improved a little by the time he wrote DGSD. Because in describing Xuzhu's invincibility, Jin Yong wrote:

    Even if the SWORD GOD acquired 30 more years of internal energy, his sword would nevertheless be deprived by Xuzhu's Xiaoyao hand technique.

    This time He did not say no matter how high SWORD GOD's martial arts...
    Which literally it means, perhaps, at earliest, if 31 more years of internal energy, he might be able to beat XZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix
    Which literally it means, perhaps, at earliest, if 31 more years of internal energy, he might be able to beat XZ.
    Might not lose his sword. He'll probably need another 30 years to stand a chance and another 30 years to possibly beat XZ. Mind you that still a lot less than what XZ has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix
    Which literally it means, perhaps, at earliest, if 31 more years of internal energy, he might be able to beat XZ.
    Your inference is one of the best I've seen recently!
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ
    Your inference is one of the best I've seen recently!
    Hmmm, does this hint that the upper limit for SWORD GOD's inner energy = 1.5 Xiao Yao elders?

    Since he trained for 30 years previously, and JY hinted that if he added another 31 years, he might match XZ?
    Its BIxie Jianfa Gawdammit you guys!!!!

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    LOL, Felix's reason is really amazing!
    Xuzhu = 210 internal energy years (3.70?).
    Sword God = x
    x + 31 = 210 => SWORD GOD = 179 years. , omg, he's probably even more powerful than Xiao Feng.
    Yang Guo & Zhou Botong said in Chapters 6, 11 & 25 of ROCH:
    - 这道姑也算得美了,只是还不及桃花岛郭伯母,更加不及我姑姑。
    - 原来郭伯母竟是这般美貌,小时候我却不觉得。
    - 龙姑娘,我瞧你品貌才智,和那小黄蓉不相上下,武功也跟她差不离。

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    Sweeper Monk aint Human

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    Talk about overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huang Rong
    LOL, Felix's reason is really amazing!
    Xuzhu = 210 internal energy years (3.70?).
    Sword God = x
    x + 31 = 210 => SWORD GOD = 179 years. , omg, he's probably even more powerful than Xiao Feng.
    Your logic is a bit flawed. You can't use x+31=210

    SWORD GOD took 30 years to reach X.

    Therefore SWORD GOD progresses at rate of X/30 per year.

    Therefore X+ 31(X/30) = 210

    Therefore SWORD GOD is approx 104
    Its BIxie Jianfa Gawdammit you guys!!!!

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    if i'm not wrong, Jin Yong wrote very clearly that:
    Quote Originally Posted by PJ
    Even if the SWORD GOD acquired 30 more years of internal energy, his sword would nevertheless be deprived by Xuzhu's Xiaoyao hand technique.
    he used the phrase "30 more years of ie" not "30 more years of training".
    we already know the total amount of energy for him to reach Xuzhu's level so why bother to take the average progress per year of him into account?
    if the progress rate of SWORD GOD varies from year to year, i think we'll need a computer program to calculate his real power.
    anyway, the energy of 104 years is still really impressive compared to Xiao Yuanshan and Murong Bo!
    Last edited by Huang Rong; 02-09-07 at 04:15 PM.
    Yang Guo & Zhou Botong said in Chapters 6, 11 & 25 of ROCH:
    - 这道姑也算得美了,只是还不及桃花岛郭伯母,更加不及我姑姑。
    - 原来郭伯母竟是这般美貌,小时候我却不觉得。
    - 龙姑娘,我瞧你品貌才智,和那小黄蓉不相上下,武功也跟她差不离。

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