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    Default What was the terms and conditions for GJ tothe Mongolians forholding GX as ahostage?

    What was it and what did GJ have to give up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltcuoi
    What was it and what did GJ have to give up?
    Surrender Seung Yeung Fortress/City to Mongolian control and turn himself in as a prisoner to Mongke Khan, basically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng
    Surrender Seung Yeung Fortress/City to Mongolian control and turn himself in as a prisoner to Mongke Khan, basically.
    Wouldn't they have thought that GJ would rather sacrifice GX than to surrender Seung Yeung?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltcuoi
    Wouldn't they have thought that GJ would rather sacrifice GX than to surrender Seung Yeung?
    No. The enemy didn't understand Gwok Jing's personality that well. Even Wong Yung was shocked that Gwok Jing was leaning towards sacrificing his daughter for the survival of the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Surrender Seung Yeung Fortress/City to Mongolian control and turn himself in as a prisoner to Mongke Khan, basically.
    Using a helpless girl as bargaining chips, what a proud nation are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    Using a helpless girl as bargaining chips, what a proud nation are they?
    Go read some history, and look up what hostages are. Using sentimentally valuable individuals is exactly what it involves, and it's sedentary civilisations that use them the most. So I'd wager China has taken hostages on a regular basis, although they might have been dressed up under a different name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Even Wong Yung was shocked that Gwok Jing was leaning towards sacrificing his daughter for the survival of the city.
    Really? HR was shocked? I'd expect her to know what GJ would do... especially since this is after the incident when GJ was going to cut off GF's arm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trien Chieu View Post
    Using a helpless girl as bargaining chips, what a proud nation are they?
    No less proud than a nation that would threaten to boil an entire family alive (Chu-Han contention).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltcuoi View Post
    Wouldn't they have thought that GJ would rather sacrifice GX than to surrender Seung Yeung?
    My guess is that they didn't have high hopes for the plan to work, but wanted to give it a shot anyways.

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    Worst case scenario they'd be able to upset all the defenders at Xiangyang and deal a psychological blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Liew View Post
    Worst case scenario they'd be able to upset all the defenders at Xiangyang and deal a psychological blow.
    Or that the defenders might to something rash.

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