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    Default How did Kiu/Siu Fung retain his given name of "Fung?"

    Was Kiu Fung born with the given name of "Fung," or was that a name given to him by his Han caretakers after he had been adopted? I find it strange that both his biological parents (the Sius) and his adoptive parents (the Kius) would just coincidentally give him the same name. If it had been the Sius who had originally named their son "Fung," how would the Kius (and others) have known that that was the boy's name? On the other hand, if the Kius named the boy "Fung," it doesn't explain why Siu Yeun San continued to use that name to address his son after the two were reunited.

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    Qiao Feng's original name was indeed Xiao Feng. Xiao Yuanshan carved this information in the stone before proceeding to jumping off a cliff, and the people who took care of baby Qiao Feng saw it.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ
    Qiao Feng's original name was indeed Xiao Feng. Xiao Yuanshan carved this information in the stone before proceeding to jumping off a cliff, and the people who took care of baby Qiao Feng saw it.
    I see. I'm surprised that Siu Yeun San was literate in the Han Chinese language. Not too many Khitans were, probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng
    I see. I'm surprised that Siu Yeun San was literate in the Han Chinese language. Not too many Khitans were, probably.
    He carved in his language. The central plains warriors later got it translated (by copying the words onto a piece of fabric).
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    I suppose Siu Yeun San became literate in the Han Chinese language later, when he had to secretly pore over those Shaolin martial arts manuals.

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    XYS had a Han sifu, so he might've known the language prior to that.
    "Anything you can't say NO to is your MASTER, and you are its SLAVE."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candide
    XYS had a Han sifu, so he might've known the language prior to that.
    don't think so, he shouted Khitan to the people who killed the Khitan Warriors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loke-Gao-Zhu
    don't think so, he shouted Khitan to the people who killed the Khitan Warriors
    AFAIK, he knew and he tried to call on the Han fighters to stop killing. But his Khitan accent was so hard that they didn't understand anything at all.
    Yang Guo & Zhou Botong said in Chapters 6, 11 & 25 of ROCH:
    - 这道姑也算得美了,只是还不及桃花岛郭伯母,更加不及我姑姑。
    - 原来郭伯母竟是这般美貌,小时候我却不觉得。
    - 龙姑娘,我瞧你品貌才智,和那小黄蓉不相上下,武功也跟她差不离。

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    He understood and spoke Han Chinese. (as in HR's post)

    But the carving was in the Khitan language.
    Its BIxie Jianfa Gawdammit you guys!!!!

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