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    TVB's DGSD '81 was known for having taken a number of liberties with the source material, particularly towards the end of the story. Here are a few oddities from DGSD '81 that I would like to check for novel accuracy:

    After Mo Yung F'uk and Wong Yu Yin meet up following the Wulin Conference to clear Mo Yung F'uk's name for assorted wulin murders, the two discuss Mo Yung F'uk's ambitions. During the discussion, the names of the Kunlun Sect and the Mt. Hua Sect come up.

    The Kunlun Sect mention seems feasible. In HSDS, it was said that Kunlun was among the oldest wulin sects still in existence (along with Shaolin, the Beggar's Union, and the Ming Cult). Was there, however, any reference to Kunlun Sect in the DGSD novel?

    The Mt. Hua Sect is more problematic. Apparently, the Mt. Hua Sect (at least the version that figured so prominent in SOD/SPW) was founded by Gok Dai Tung of the Cheun Jen Sect, who would not even be born until several decades after the end of DGSD. If so, there could not have been a Mt. Hua Sect for Mo Yung F'uk to allude to in DGSD...unless it was a different Mt. Hua Sect that had no connection to the later version other than name and location.

    So what's the skinny on all this?

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    After Mo Yung F'uk and Wong Yu Yin meet up following the Wulin Conference to clear Mo Yung F'uk's name for assorted wulin murders
    That whole sequence didn't happen in the novel.

    The Kunlun Sect mention seems feasible. In HSDS, it was said that Kunlun was among the oldest wulin sects still in existence (along with Shaolin, the Beggar's Union, and the Ming Cult). Was there, however, any reference to Kunlun Sect in the DGSD novel?
    Indeed there is. Great Wheel Monk Jiumozhi mentioned a Kunlun formation as one of the most sophisticated available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng
    Was there, however, any reference to Kunlun Sect in the DGSD novel?
    In Chapter 12, Duan Yu described a move-sequence that a Mr Zhu used in a fight to Wang Yuyan. That Mr Zhu (who was actually Zhu Danchen) was correctly identified through the described move-sequence by Wang Yuyan as a disciple of the Taoist Temple of the Three Reasons. Wang Yuyan also mentioned that the Taoist Temple of the Three Reasons was an off-shoot of the Kunlun School.
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    Hao Datong was only the founder of the Huashan Taoist branches in real life. Nowhere, in Jin Yong's (or even Gu Long's) works was it ever mentioned that Hao Datong was the founder of the Huashan martial arts school.
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    hap datong founded a temple on huashan but that was not the huashan sect of later days during HSDS and SPW. i believe there were several temples (buddhist and taoist) on the various sacared mountains. one of those temples on huashan eventually either became or was the source of huashan sect of later days. there a various sacared buddhist and taoist sacared mountains in china. at least five major mountains for each and several minor ones.
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