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    Yeah sure what ever you think, since you put it that way, I guess if it the same situation you will kill your own dad then?

    Like I say, son that kill their own father don't deserve to live anyways, WITHOUT his dad, he won't be standing there to get revenge and shot your own father. The end.

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    OK guys...calm down now. It is just a show. But everyone have their own opinion and views from the story of this series.

    Besides Ma Su, Amy do have her own unhappiness too. Becoz of saving her mother, she sacrificed herself to bear a child for 9 months who she don't even know who the father is. After she delivered the babies, they were taken away from her and she had been looking for her own children for 6 years!

    But in this series, I prefer Steve to pair with Ma Su. especially when their relationship developed after they were married.
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    Gee.... I thought only my mom get so heated over what happens in the idiot box. Haha!

    I think it's generally nicely done. Every character's motives behind their actions and how they ended up being how they are is explained. I mean, I can understand Benny's revenge, Dowager Sun's 'evilness', Ma Su's coldness, Steve's 'betrayal'. It doesn't really leave you questioning much, unless you're either very analytical or you'd fastforwarded.
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    Honestly... I didn't feel sad for Ma Su at all...probably because her character gave this 'spoiled, unreasonable" image that really irritated me at the beginning... and that feeling never went away throughout the series for me. Her and Steve would never work out because their personality and views on life are so different... Its true that she tried to become accostumed to Steve's life, but its just not "HER."

    Amy and Steve on the other hand.... its their "DESTINY" to be together... Even from the beginning... its outright said that they are "MEANT" for each other. I really admired Amy's character for being so strong even after going through all of that.

    Question... its true that you shouldn't kill your father... but if you're in Benny's shoes... and you haven't spent time or have any feelings for the 'stranger' that is your 'father".... would you still have those rational thoughts? Remember now, He didn't have 'fatherly/son' affections like other people out there. He was used surviving on the streets and being a 'tough' person.
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    I don't need to be in Benny shoe, I always think without my dad I won't even be standing here in this world.

    Everyone has different opinion, I STILL THINK anyone that kill their dad is deserve to die, who cares what the reasons is.
    Even till modern days 2004, killing your own father are not tollerate, and any JUDGE or Court right now still support my statement. Doesn't matter what the reason, kill someone is kill someone.

    So what, if he doesn't know his dad. Without his dad, he won't be standing there holding a GUN to shot his father. That is all I see, and even if I was in his shoe, I don't have the guts to kill my own father anyways.

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    Of course its not right to kill someone who who brought you into this world, but you have to be understanding with Benny's case. He has one thing on his mind.. and one thing only.. and that is REVENGE. If you have built up all this animosity throughout all the years, of course you wouldn't be rational. Especially if no one ever tried to lessen that animosity... I think that in Benny's case, he was just waiting for someone to 'help' him and 'accept' him.
    Facing his Dad is like facing a stranger... and when facing a stranger, you have no good memories or feelings to make you change your mind of what you're intent on doing.
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    I think you just don't understand my point, I DON'T NEED TO UNDERSTAND, wait!! I don't want to understand.
    Or are you trying to force me to understand?
    I guess I make my point clear now, If you understand him, that good for you. But see!! I don't want to understand a guy that kill his father, I guess my point clear now.

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    Ehhh.... relax! It's just a show. There's no need to waste your breathe over it too much. Your life don't depend on it.

    Hmmm... the writers and actors should be congratulated, I think, for making people get so worked up about the series. It sure goes to show they'd done a good job, imho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Question
    I think you just don't understand my point, I DON'T NEED TO UNDERSTAND, wait!! I don't want to understand.
    Or are you trying to force me to understand?
    I guess I make my point clear now, If you understand him, that good for you. But see!! I don't want to understand a guy that kill his father, I guess my point clear now.
    I don't know why you're getting so worked up over something that I never even said you were wrong in the first place. And no, I'm not FORCING you to understand... you are not THAT special yet If you don't want to understand, then that's good for you, nobody can force an individual to do anything. Like you said, everybody has their own opinons, and I'm merely stating mine, if you consider that FORCING.. then so be it... But then agian, with your screaming "HE SHOULD BE KILLLED FOR KILLING HIS FATHER," then should I consider that you trying to "FORCE" me to accept that too?
    Difference of opinons shouldn't be classified as 'trying to force' someone to understand something, if you don't understand that simple concept, then you're not even worth debating with.
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    I don't debaet with people, and certainly i dont' talk to people not same view with me
    I guess id ont make my point clear enough, U NEED ME TO RESTATE
    the GUY KILL HIS FATHER, HE DESERVE TO BE DEATH
    any1 got a problem witn my view?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Question
    I don't debaet with people, and certainly i dont' talk to people not same view with me
    I guess id ont make my point clear enough, U NEED ME TO RESTATE
    the GUY KILL HIS FATHER, HE DESERVE TO BE DEATH
    any1 got a problem witn my view?
    Oh trust me..we don't need you to RESTATE ANYTHING... even if you don't get tired of saying "the guy killed his father, he deserves to be DEAD (Ahem)", but people reading it surely DOES get tired of it...
    This, certainly, is only an opinon of mine
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    I think in the back of his mind, Benny's father really do know that he did something bad. For instance, in earlier episodes, he did say that he had a bad dream about a woeful woman and how he felt he did something bad to her. He also kept on mentioning about the bad things he did and the retribution it brought to his family.

    I have yet to finish watching the series but I have to admit at being a little shock that 2 lou yeh turned out to be his father and ying gu is his aunt. In the beginning, his character was only vengeful because Suen Tai Lo Yeh killed Siu Yue, his lover. And then all of a sudden, this illegimate child twist.

    I am beginning to really enjoy this series as the story development has a lot of surprises. I am feeling so much pain for Benny....Truth is, I don't like to watch Amy and Steven at all..their relationship is so BORING ... but Benny and Amy is really much more interesting...esp. Benny with all his funny lines about asking Amy to marry him...countless times...

    I think I will finish the series by the weekend...hopefully...

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    Yeah, it's actually quite cute how Benny keep teasing Amy to marry him.

    I agree that somehow, his dad does know what he's done and perhaps he has retrograde amnesia 'cos he doesn't want to admit what he's done. Psychologically defending himself.

    Since you'd mentioned the twist, I'd suddenly remember.... how did Benny find out he's the illegitimate son? Was is shown? I must have missed that part.

    As for Ying Gu, initially, I thought she was his mom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2socks

    Since you'd mentioned the twist, I'd suddenly remember.... how did Benny find out he's the illegitimate son? Was is shown? I must have missed that part.

    As for Ying Gu, initially, I thought she was his mom.

    From as far as I've watched, Benny was drinking and suddenly there was a flashback. I don't know what to make of it since in the flashback, all the actors and actresses are different than the characters potrayed now. Anyway, it's weird that Benny was having the flashback since he is not yet even born!!

    Anyway, in the scene a younger version of Ying Gu ( called Ying Jie ) was pleading to a younger version of 2 lou yeh to accept her younger sister (Siu Fen) into the Suen household since she has nowhere to go. Suen 2 Lou Yeh reluctantly accepted Siu Fen and then there was the bedroom scene between 2 lou yeh and Siu Fen. Then, it cut into the scene where Siu Fen was holding a baby in front of Suen's House and was chased away by the servants. Ying Jie came out and asked Siu Fen to leave and start a new life.

    And lo and behold, Siu Fen went to a river, placed the baby ( which must have been poor little Benny) on the ground and jumped into the river!

    Later in the chapters, Ying Gu went to a temple and pay respect to her dead sister. Benny was there too but Ying Gu did not mentioned any relation between the two of them.
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    Yes, I watched that part. But how in the world did he know??? I mean, someone must have found out and told him. Did Yammie tell him before she died (which would be way beginning in the series, which I'd missed... 2 episodes, I think)?

    When Ying Gu was praying, she was praying to a nameless plaque. So, if Benny hadn't had known about his past, he won't have known it's actually his mom/her sis.

    So, my nagging question is still: how did he know he's Sun's son???
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    Gagaga...I know..it all makes no sense to me either but I have yet to watch the rest of the series. Maybe there is a good explanation for how he came to know about his past. I would also want to know if Ying Gu know Benny is related to her and how Ying Gu came to know Benny. I am sure this will get anwered in later episodes..but I hate to read spoilers so I guess I will have to wait and watch ....
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    Ok. Don't forget to tell me when you find out, ya!
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    Default Links for themesong "Love in a Miracle"

    Hello,
    anyone who want the themesong main and sub for "Love in a Miracle", You can go on this website: http://www.dsoul.net/forums/index.ph...e+in+a+miracle

    Hope you'll enjoy it,

    Snowy.

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    Thanks Snowy.
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    Default Lyrics for Love in a miracle

    Hi 2socks/Yannie

    I've seen in your previous msg that u r looking for the lyrics also. I've got it but it's in chinese so if this interest you, go on this website http://hkatv.com/drama/04/miracle/ and click on the 5th option in chinese, u'll get it. Hope this link will help u and also hope that u know reading chinese too.
    Unfortunately for me, it's useless coz don't know reading chinese. :-)

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