View Poll Results: Who will win the Huashan Tournament and proclaim to be number one?

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Thread: Triple-Threat Matchup: Zhang Sanfeng vs. Zhang Wuji vs. Three Du Generation Monks

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    Post Triple-Threat Matchup: Zhang Sanfeng vs. Zhang Wuji vs. Three Du Generation Monks

    Welcome ladies and gentlemen, to the unofficial HSDS Huashan Tournament. It will be a tournament that consists of both theory and practical parts - same as the earlier tournaments.

    In a triple-threat match among Zhang Sanfeng, Zhang Wuji and the three Du Generation Shaolin monks (in this case, we count the three monks as one entity), who you believe will triumph and become the champions of this unofficial Huashan Tournament? Imagine a fight in which all of them give their best shots and put their lives on the line.

    Will it be a 7 days 7 nights fight (does ZSF have the stamina to last that long )? Or will the Du Generations monks triumph due to their great teamwork and understanding?
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    i assume this is just comparing techniques, rather than internal energy for complete superiority. in that case, ZWJ has a tougher fight on his hands, as he cannot simply rely on 9yang to overpower his opponents. luckily, the other martial arts that he knows also rely on huge internal energy, and his uniqueness here is what gives him the win. He understands all of Z3F's techniques, and has already proven superior to the Du monks thanks to QKDLY. how can he lose?
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    Well the Du monks definitely can't win since the 3 of them together don't really have that much more knowledge or techniques than any individual one of them.

    Z3F would of course win, being the greatest ever etc.

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    We know the 3 Du generation monks can't win over Zhang Wuji by normal means (as indicated in the novel). At such old age, those monks simply aren't aggressive enough to exploit Zhang Wuji's weakness. But there's no proof that they won't win over Zhang Sanfeng. Zhang Sanfeng can also win over Zhang Wuji, and vice versa. So the winner would either be Zhang Sanfeng or Zhang Wuji.
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    The Du monks can only sit there and guard with their Demon Taming Circle, but they can't aggressively attack. Just by that alone, they lose.

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    is zhang sanfeng too old to even be fighting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackattack View Post
    is zhang sanfeng too old to even be fighting?
    True, since technically he only won b/c the great four supposedly gave it to him as a sign of respect. I'm all for Zhang Wu Ji. But maybe in terms of technique and kung fu, not necessarily inner energy since he has yet to develope them.

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    Actually I was thinking in terms of internal energy, ZWJ is the winner. ie in an internal energy match-up between ZWJ and Z3F, it's likely ZWJ would win.

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    If Zhang Sanfeng were 20 (with his same abilities) while Wuji was 100, would we still think he'd win in an inner strength competition ?

    It seems to me that with two fighters at around the same level, the older one (if he's older than say 80) will inevitably be the loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tape View Post
    If Zhang Sanfeng were 20 (with his same abilities) while Wuji was 100, would we still think he'd win in an inner strength competition ?

    It seems to me that with two fighters at around the same level, the older one (if he's older than say 80) will inevitably be the loser.

    Zhang san feng should win. THe way he basically got the Xuan Ming elder under his control in just one stance proves it all, ends it all.

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    In terms of Martial Arts maybe Z3F is stronger, he practices unlike ZWJ who learns it one time and uses it whenever he fights (which is so little in the HSDS 2003 IMO), but ZWJ has the 9Yang and Qian Kun Reversal, not to mention the Taiji Fist and Sword that was taught to him. I don't think the 3 Monks will win because ZWJ was able to penetrate their defense in the novel. But if I think about it logically, ZWJ would never fight Z3F in the Jinyong universe unless Z3F has captured or killed Zhao Min, but why would he? ZWJ would probably just cry it off and become a priest himself.

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