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Thread: Team War: Team Icemen vs. Eastern Heretic + Southern Monk

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    Default Team War: Team Icemen vs. Eastern Heretic + Southern Monk

    4 renowned baddies, skilled in Icy-type, Yin-based attacks challenge 2 elite finger specialists of ROCH!!

    Team Icemen:

    You TanZhi (parts of Yi Ji Jing, Ice SilkWorm Poison Palm, Poison Corpse Technique)
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    XuanMing Elders (XuanMing Divine Palm)
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    Zuo LengChan (Great Songyang Divine Palms, Glacial Ice Inner Power cultivation, Glacial Ice Palm, SongShan Sword Arts)

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    Eastern Heretic Huang YaoShi (Divine Art of Flicking Fingers, Jade Flute Sword Technique, Tao Hua Luo Ying Zhang, arts of strategies and formation)
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    Southern Monk Yi Deng (Dali Martial Arts, Yi Yang Zhi, Pre-Heaven Skill)


    Discuss and don't forget to vote for the champs.

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    no one thinks Yi Deng's compassionate heart will play as key factor of a losing battle for the finger specialists? i mean granted Eastern Heretic 's badass attitude might be able to cover some of that but the other 4 baddies are on an all-out killing rampage.

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    yi ding will fight when necessary... he probably won't kill the others just disable their damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by batmankiller View Post
    yi ding will fight when necessary... he probably won't kill the others just disable their damage
    so u mean that he'll aim to strictly seal the acupoints versus straight out finger blasting his opponents to oblivion? placing 1D against YTZ would probably be a worst case scenario then since YTZ can be beasty.
    is 1D's 1 Yang Finger a good blackstar of these type of Yin-based attacks?

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    i said disable the damage.. meaning find a way to subdue the opponent and not necessarily kill them but maybe injure them to a point where they can't fight back.

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    Ultimately, I think HYS and 1D are too canny, too experienced for the opponents to deal with. Not only do they have superior power and technique over most of "the Icemen" (they won't overpower YTZ though), they also have superior wisdom and intellect.

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    YTZ + one XM elder can prolly edge out one of the Greats after 500-600 moves. i'm assuming MRF ~ a XM elder. we all know YTZ + MRF edges out manbeast XF so my stand is reasonable.

    on the other side, i see ZLC around one and a half of XM elder level. so basically the other Great will be dealing with 2.5 XM elder type of opposition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augster123 View Post
    YTZ + one XM elder can prolly edge out one of the Greats after 500-600 moves.
    YTZ alone would easily cause problems for either of the Great. Both XM Elders had been brothers for so long, so their understanding, teamwork and coordination with each other would easily propelled them to cause problems for the other GREAT. Put in the pesky ZLC along with the XM Elders, and HYS might be in hot soup for a short moment - but in a long fight HYS might prevail.
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    4 against 2 might be too tough to HYS and YD. Why not add ZBT in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortsight View Post
    4 against 2 might be too tough to HYS and YD. Why not add ZBT in?
    Then the Icemen will melt and disappear from the face of the earth.
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    The Xuanming Elders were good at one thing, and that is their toxic palm power. We know that their lightness kung fu sucked big time, so if the Greats can take advantage of that by moving fast like Guo Jing did inside the Big Dipper Formation, the Xuanming Elders would be toast quickly.

    IMO, You Tanzhi is the only threat here. Obviously it would not be wise to match palms with the guy, for doing so can result in a single stance paralysis of the Great.
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extremer88 View Post
    Then the Icemen will melt and disappear from the face of the earth.
    hahahaha...yeah adding Old Urchin into the equation will be total imbalance. furthermore, i don't think he has any finger specialties/skills. though, any pebbles he flick can prolly knock out the average guy, with his sufficient internal energy.

    hmmm PJ do have some valid points. Big Dipper Formation they probably dont know but Eastern Heretic probably have some type of formation up his sleeve that pinpoints on that weakness of the two. i don't think ZLC should be looked down upon that fast however.

    did YTZ have any previous experience fighting against DYQ's 1YZ or MRB's Canhe Finger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by augster123 View Post
    YTZ + one XM elder can prolly edge out one of the Greats after 500-600 moves. i'm assuming MRF ~ a XM elder. we all know YTZ + MRF edges out manbeast XF so my stand is reasonable.

    on the other side, i see ZLC around one and a half of XM elder level. so basically the other Great will be dealing with 2.5 XM elder type of opposition.
    No way. YTZ by himself got wtfbbqpwn by XF in no time. MRF and YTZ were only doing well against XF because MRF's techniques masked YTZ's weakness. 2 XM elders can't do that - their technique wasn't described as overwhelming - only their palm coldness were of significance. You can't just add them. Remember ZWJ took on 3 Du monks, and 1 Du monk is easily better than a XM.

    ZLC level is hard to say, he only beat RWX via surprise, or else he would have got pawned too.

    In all honesty, I think HYS alone is enough to deal with them. HYS will realise after a few exchanges (which he can afford, like XF, without being frozen), what their strength are, and quickly expose their weakness (techniques and/or lightness). With HYS's formation knowledge, he will use their numbers and lack of maneuvability against them.

    If you do want to add numbers, YTZ is 1/3 great, 2XM is 1/3 great, ZLC is less than 1/3 great.
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    Without MRF to cover for him, YTZ would not be as deadly.

    I think the only way for the Ice Team to win is if they fight in an enclosed room and YTZ throws the 2 XM Elders with Fu Shi Du.
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    Concur with CC.

    Also remember that both HYS and YD don't usually use palm blasts much anyhow; HYS uses either a flicking finger or pebble, and Yideng, with his YYZ. That would, IMHO, dilute a major part of the effectiveness of the coldness.

    Zuo Lengchan...when he watched RWX fight FZ, he was secretly fearful and glad that he wasn't the one fighting RWX. Then, after RWX was exhausted from the first bout, he immediately started the second, and yet, even then, as soon as RWX was able to catch a single breath, RWX started beating him down again. His 'victory' relied more on RWX's curiousness as to why he was unable to absorb ZLC's internal energy; in terms of 'actual' martial arts, he was inferior even to a winded RWX.

    I think there is a significant difference in ability between RWX and Zuo Lengchan. He's probably not too dangerous for the likes of HYS and Yideng, depending on what 'era' they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yittz View Post
    If you do want to add numbers, YTZ is 1/3 great, 2XM is 1/3 great, ZLC is less than 1/3 great.

    YTZ is at least 2/3 great, 2XM (4XM = 1 Great is about right) is 1/2 great. I dont know why I put ZLC in such "high" regard but he's around 1/3 great. so i guess x-factor is YTZ in this case. just got too much <3 for YTZ + ZLC...hahahaha.

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    Why does everyone look so highly towards the XM Elders.. considering they've lost the XMPalms vs. someone with the internal energy alikes YD and HYS.. they're like 1/4 of a great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batmankiller View Post
    Why does everyone look so highly towards the XM Elders.. considering they've lost the XMPalms vs. someone with the internal energy alikes YD and HYS.. they're like 1/4 of a great.
    surely u dont mean 2 XM elders = 1/4 of a great. i highly doubt a great can handle 8 XM elders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    I think the only way for the Ice Team to win is if they fight in an enclosed room and YTZ throws the 2 XM Elders with Fu Shi Du.
    Then, as the Xuanming Elders struggle to resist being thrown, the battle becomes (You Tanzhi vs the Xuanming Elders) vs (Yideng vs Huang Yaoshi), with poor Zuo Lengchan left out wondering what to do.

    When You Tanzhi vs XM Elders reaches the peak of dynamics, Huang Yaoshi flicks 2 pebbles killing the elders, while Yideng kills You Tanzhi with a light poke in the back.

    Then, Zuo Lengchan and the 2 winners go drink at the wuxia bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by augster123 View Post
    surely u dont mean 2 XM elders = 1/4 of a great. i highly doubt a great can handle 8 XM elders.
    Fine we'll say 2 XM elders = 1/3 of a great and ZBT can sure as hell take on 6 XM Elders.. they aren't that great without their palms, ZWJ defeated them way too easily

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