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    hey there, new here to the forum, i learned a lot and got more indepth with wuxia all thanks to you all. hope i am able to learn quite more.

    i have a thought though...
    bagua was known to be a taoist principle, his disciples were known to have carried baguas. however, being HYS's personality, i don't think he would adopt such doctrines and principles into his life. do you all think it was because of the success of WCY at huashan that encouraged him to incorporate such beliefs into his martial arts? or did HYS, prior to huashan, already adopted these notions into his martial arts?

    let me know what you all think... thanks

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    What does bagua mean ?
    Huang Yaoshi did study a lot about Taoism and others. But he didn't favor them that much. He often criticizes them and found his own unique belief system. It may contain a bit of Buddhism a bit of Taoism and a bit of Confucianism even others. I believe his student should have taught by this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odbayarb2000 View Post
    What does bagua mean ?
    Huang Yaoshi did study a lot about Taoism and others. But he didn't favor them that much. He often criticizes them and found his own unique belief system. It may contain a bit of Buddhism a bit of Taoism and a bit of Confucianism even others. I believe his student should have taught by this way.
    I believe it refers to geomancy or feng shui. The Five Paths and Eight Areas (or better translated as Five elements and eight triagrams)

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    East Heretic Wong Yerk See was the wuxia equivalent of a mad scientist. I don't think he had a formal system of spiritual beliefs, and he probably did have a problem with organized religion, but that wouldn't stop him from nicking from those religions a few ideas that he found useful in his own pursuits.

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    HYS's martial arts was not 'taoist' but based on the eight triagrams and five elements as well as dance, literature and the arts.. his inner power came from medical theories since he was a physician and alchemist.
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    i always assumed he took the bagua principles from the i ching and not taoism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mawguy View Post
    i always assumed he took the bagua principles from the i ching and not taoism.
    But the I CHING is the foundational text of Taoism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    But the I CHING is the foundational text of Taoism.
    but does that lead to the assumption that he took from taoism rather than directly from the source?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mawguy View Post
    but does that lead to the assumption that he took from taoism rather than directly from the source?
    That's probably exactly the case. He wasn't a true believer, but that didn't prevent him from understanding and using the principles.

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