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    What is Myers-Bigg's?

    The Myers-Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI) is a personality questionnaire designed to identify certain psychological differences according to the typological theories of Carl Gustav Jung, as published in his 1921 book Psychological Types (English edition, 1923). The original developers of the indicator were Katharine Cook Briggs and her daughter, Isabel Briggs Myers. They began developing the indicator during World War II.

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs

    The 4 personality combinations types out of 16 different personalities:
    ISTJ (Inspector)
    ISFJ ( Protector )
    INFJ (Counselor)
    INTJ ( Mastermind)
    ISTP (Crafter)
    ISFP (Composer)
    INFP (Healer)
    INTP (Architect)
    ESTP (Promoter)
    ESFP (Performer)
    ENFP (Champion)
    ENTP (Inventor)
    ESTJ (Supervisor)
    ESFJ (Provider)
    ENFJ (Teacher)
    ENTJ (Field Marshal)


    Mine: INTJ


    See what's your personality by taking this Myer's Brigg indicator test: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
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    Wasn't this similar to the previous one posted before?

    Btw, ISFP.
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    It was, but I decided to seperate the Mecheville from Myer's-brigg. I rather not confused anyone; totally 2 different personality tests.
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    I wonder about the accurary of the tests, and how valid are the predicted traits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bliss
    I think they're probably at the same level as or one level below Ah Qing, which is about the level of a 2nd or 3rd generation Quan Zhen disciple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Han Solo View Post
    I wonder about the accurary of the tests, and how valid are the predicted traits.
    I'm very skeptical when it comes to these types of tests. I think I mentioned the Forer Effect on some of the other threads, but it doesn't hurt to bring it up again. Having been involved in an experiment that proved this effect, I saw first-hand how it works.

    I'm not suggesting results from Myers-Briggs are totally invalid, it's just something people should be aware of. Wiki has a good explanation as does the Skeptics Dictionary:
    http://www.skepdic.com/forer.html
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    Thanx, john-e for bring that up.

    When, I got more time, I'm going to do some more research on INTJ's because all INTJ's are considered 3rd rare personality types around the world, like between 1-3% :http://www.oswego.edu/plsi/intj.htm. Interesting to know , this might be why more people having trouble understanding me.

    Here is a few famous INTJs:
    Dan Aykroyd (The Blues Brothers)
    Susan B. Anthony
    Arthur Ashe, tennis champion
    Augustus Caesar (Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus)
    Jane Austen (Pride and Prejudice)
    William J. Bennett, "drug czar"
    William F. Buckley, Jr.
    Raymond Burr (Perry Mason, Ironsides)
    Chevy Chase (Cornelius Crane) (Fletch)
    Phil Donahue
    Michael Dukakis, governor of Mass., 1988 U.S. Dem. pres. candidate
    Greg Gumbel, television sportscaster
    Hannibal, Carthaginian military leader
    Veronica Hamel (Hill Street Blues)
    Angela Lansbury (Murder, She Wrote)
    Orel Leonard Hershiser, IV
    Peter Jennings
    Charles Everett Koop
    Ivan Lendl
    C. S. Lewis (The Chronicles of Narnia)
    Joan Lunden
    Edwin Moses, U.S. olympian (hurdles)
    Martina Navratilova
    Charles Rangel, U. S. Representative, D-N.Y.
    Pernell Roberts (Bonanza)
    Arnold Schwarzenegger, Governor of California
    Josephine Tey (Elizabeth Mackintosh), mystery writer (Brat Farrar)
    Rudy Giuliani, former New York City mayor
    Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense
    General Colin Powell, US Secretary of State
    Lance Armstrong
    Richard Gere (Pretty Woman)
    Katie Couric

    U.S. Presidents:
    Chester A. Arthur
    Calvin Coolidge
    Thomas Jefferson
    John F. Kennedy
    James K. Polk
    Woodrow Wilson

    Fictional:

    Cassius (Julius Caesar)
    Mr. Darcy (Pride and Prejudice)
    Gandalf the Grey (J. R. R. Tolkein's Middle Earth books)
    Hannibal Lecter (Silence of the Lambs)
    Professor Moriarty, Sherlock Holmes' nemesis
    Ensign Ro (Star Trek--the Next Generation)
    Rosencrantz and Guildenstern (Hamlet)
    George Smiley, John le Carre's master spy
    Clarice Starling (Silence of the Lambs)


    Copyright © 1996-2007 by Marina Margaret Heiss and Joe But: http://typelogic.com/intj.html

    Very interesting Donald Rumsfeld, US Secretary of Defense is also INTJ; I didn't know that.

    Here is a website, for people who might be close to your counterparts: http://community.livejournal.com/intj_/106438.html
    intj_: Type Interactions #9: INTJ-ENTP
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    i remember taking this test before in college. i don't remember which types I am, just that i'm really really bad at directions.
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    Your most likely an S, if you are bad with directions. but there is a posted test, so give it a try, if you are not sure. Glad to know more about myself based on Myers-brigg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mind_wander View Post
    Your most likely an S, if you are bad with directions. but there is a posted test, so give it a try, if you are not sure. Glad to know more about myself based on Myers-brigg.
    no, no need to take the test again. haha, it'll just make me feel bad.
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    I just took the test and got INTJ as well. Very amusing. Apparently, I'm very intuitive.

    You are:
    moderately expressed introvert

    distinctively expressed intuitive personality

    moderately expressed thinking personality

    slightly expressed judging personality
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    Awesome, welcome to the INTJ club, lol. I had a feeling based on your posts and other posts; you just might fall into INTJ or INTP We are very rare indeed.

    Permberly, do not feel bad even if you take the test; we are human, always have other doubts, if it is really you; its all natural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mind_wander View Post
    Permberly, do not feel bad even if you take the test; we are human, always have other doubts, if it is really you; its all natural.
    i think i'd prefer not to know and keep on assuming that i'm perfect!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mind_wander View Post
    Awesome, welcome to the INTJ club, lol. I had a feeling based on your posts and other posts; you just might fall into INTJ or INTP We are very rare indeed.
    I didn't read anywhere in the profile that INTJ's are skeptical about personality tests. I've read some of the other profiles and can relate to many of them as well.

    It would be interesting to take this (or any) test at regular intervals over a long period and see if and how the results change. I'll try it again in a month and see what happens.
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    Your Type is
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    ENFJ

    I can't believe i'm a teacher. my dad's a teacher and all my life i swear i wouldn't be a teacher! Not even for a personality test!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Han Solo View Post
    I wonder about the accurary of the tests, and how valid are the predicted traits.

    Han Solo
    It is said that when you take these tests, you should go with the first answer you think of and answer it truthfully, not how you want to present yourself or you think you should answer that way. It has to be answered implusively or else it wouldn't quite as accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yittz View Post
    Your Type is
    ISTP
    Here is for ISTP(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh-3432i78A):

    http://www.oswego.edu/plsi/istp.htm

    The Crafter Artisans are not only concrete in speech and utilitarian in getting things done, they are also directive and attentive in their social roles. Though directive like their Promoter counterparts, their directiveness is leavened by a good deal of attentiveness and seclusiveness. They do not approach strangers readily, but once in contact do not hesitate to tell them what to do. And they can be quite forceful in this, such that others tend to do their bidding.

    Like the other Artisans, Crafters live a life is artful action, but their particular nature is most easily seen in their mastery of tools of any and all kinds, from microscopic drill to supersonic jet, from potter's wheel to grand piano. A tool is any implement that extends or varies our human powers-vehicles, musical instruments, cutting devices, and weapons are just four of the many categories of the tools that surround us. Most of us use tools in some capacity, of course, but iStPs (only ten per cent of the general population) are the true virtuosos of tool work, with a natural ability to command tools, to bend them to their wishes, and to become adept at all the crafts requiring tool skills. Even from an early age iStPs are drawn to tools as to a magnet; tools fall into their hands demanding use, and they must manipulate them. Indeed, if a given tool, whether scalpel or earthmover, is operated with a precision that defies belief, that operator is likely an iStP.

    Full descriptions of the Crafter and the Artisans is in Please Understand Me or Please Understand Me II.

    Famous ISTPs

    Real ISTP People

    Alan Shepherd - astronaut
    Antony Worrall Thompson - British celebrity chef
    Bruce Lee - martial artist, actor
    Burt Reynolds - actor
    Charles Bronson - actor
    Chuck Yeager - U.S. Air Force officer
    Clint Eastwood - actor and director
    Frank Zappa - guitarist
    James Dean - actor
    John Malkovich - actor
    Judy Finnigan - British TV star
    Katharine Hepburn - actress
    Keith Richards - English guitarist/singer
    Michael Jordan - athelete (basketball, baseball)
    Robin Cook - British politician
    Tom Cruise - actor
    Zachary Taylor - American President


    Fictional ISTPs (Characters)

    Archibald "Harry" Tuttle - Brazil movie
    Blondie - The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    Boba Fett - Star Wars
    Brett - Alien
    Butch Coolidge - Pulp Fiction
    Elvira Hancock - Scarface
    Han Solo - Star Wars
    Hedda Gabler - Hedda Gabler play (Ibsen)
    John Milner - American Grafitti
    Maggie Fitzgerald - Million Dollar Baby
    Verna - Miller's Crossing
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    Quote Originally Posted by f.alchemist_freak View Post
    ENFJ

    I can't believe i'm a teacher. my dad's a teacher and all my life i swear i wouldn't be a teacher! Not even for a personality test!
    Lol, don't worry its just a preference criteria, does that make your a teacher, not really. More or less, in able to help others in learning or skills.

    Here is for ENFJ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B308bA35bM):

    http://www.oswego.edu/plsi/enfj.htm


    [SIZE=3]The Idealists called Teachers are abstract in their thought and speech, cooperative in their style of achieving goals, and directive and extraverted in their interpersonal relations. Learning in the young has to be beckoned forth, teased out from its hiding place, or, as suggested by the word "education," it has to be "educed." by an individual with educative capabilities. Such a one is the eNFj, thus rightly called the educative mentor or Teacher for short. The Teacher is especially capable of educing or calling forth those inner potentials each learner possesses. Even as children the eNFjs may attract a gathering of other children ready to follow their lead in play or work. And they lead without seeming to do so.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=3]Teachers expect the very best of those around them, and this expectation, usually expressed as enthusiastic encouragement, motivates action in others and the desire to live up to their expectations. Teachers have the charming characteristic of taking for granted that their expectations will be met, their implicit commands obeyed, never doubting that people will want to do what they suggest. And, more often than not, people do, because this type has extraordinary charisma.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=3] The Teachers are found in no more than 2 or 3 percent of the population. They like to have things settled and arranged. They prefer to plan both work and social engagements ahead of time and tend to be absolutely reliable in honoring these commitments. At the same time, eNFjs are very much at home in complex situations which require the juggling of much data with little pre-planning. An experienced eNFj group leader can dream up, effortlessly, and almost endlessly, activities for groups to engage in, and stimulating roles for members of the group to play. In some Teachers, inspired by the responsiveness of their students or followers, this can amount to genius which other types find hard to emulate. Such ability to preside without planning reminds us somewhat of an ESFJ, but the latter acts more as a master of ceremonies than as a leader of groups. ESFJs are natural hosts and hostesses, making sure that each guest is well looked after at social gatherings, or that the right things are expressed on traditional occasions, such as weddings, funerals, graduations, and the like. In much the same way, Teachers value harmonious human relations about all else, can handle people with charm and concern, and are usually popular wherever they are. But Teachers are not so much social as educational leaders, interested primarily in the personal growth and development of others, and less in attending to their social needs.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Mikhail Gorbachev is an example of a Teacher Idealist.[/SIZE]

    Famous ENFJs

    Real ENFJ People

    Abraham Maslow - psychologist
    Andy Griffith - actor
    Ben Affleck - actor
    Ben Stiller - actor, comedian
    Bob Saget - actor
    Brenda Vaccaro - actress
    Craig T. Nelson - actor (Coach)
    Dennis Hopper - actor
    Diane Sawyer - television journalist
    Dick Van Dyke - actor
    Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. - minister, civil rights activist
    Elizabeth Dole - senator
    Francois Mitterand - French President
    James Garner - actor
    John Wooden - basketball player, coach
    Johnny Depp - actor
    King David - King of Israel
    Kirstie Alley - actress
    Lauren Graham - actress
    Margaret Mead - cultural anthropologist
    Matthew McConaughey - actor
    Mikhail Gorbachev - last leader of Soviet Union
    Pete Sampras - tennis champion
    Peyton Manning - NFL quarterback
    Ralph Nader - attorney, political activist
    Randy Quaid - actor
    Ross Perot - businessman
    Tommy Lee Jones - actor
    William Aramony - United Way president
    William Cullen Bryant - poet


    Fictional ENFJs (Characters)

    Faye Valentine - Cowboy Bebop
    Jules Winnfield - Pulp Fiction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suet Seung View Post
    It is said that when you take these tests, you should go with the first answer you think of and answer it truthfully, not how you want to present yourself or you think you should answer that way. It has to be answered implusively or else it wouldn't quite as accurate.
    Yeah, my professor has said the samething; thats a very good point. Actually, my professor and I are actually polar opposite's, while's I'm an INTJ, he's definitely an INTP; we're on the weird section, for sure.

    INTP ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djkq6...ated&search=):


    Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is the structural engineering role -- architechtonics -- that reaches the highest development in INTPs, and it is for this reason they are aptly called the "architects." Their major interest is in figuring out structure, build, configuration -- the spatiality of things

    As the engineering capabilities the INTPs increase so does their desire to let others know about whatever has come of their engineering efforts. So they tend to take up an informative role in their social exchanges. On the other hand they have less and less desire, if they ever had any, to direct the activities of others. Only when forced to by circumstance do they allow themselves to take charge of activities, and they exit the role as soon as they can without injuring the enterprise.

    The INTPs' distant goal is always to rearrange the environment somehow, to shape, to construct, to devise, whether it be buildings, institutions, enterprises, or theories. They look upon the world -- natural and civil -- as little more than raw material to be reshaped according to their design, as a formless stone for their hammer and chisel. Ayn Rand, master of the Rational character, describes this characteristic in the architect Howard Roark, her protagonist in The Fountainhead:

    He was looking at the granite. He did not laugh as his eyes stopped in awareness of the earth around him. His face was like a law of nature-a thing one could not question, alter or implore. It had high cheekbones over gaunt, hollow cheeks; gray eyes, cold and steady; a contemptuous mouth, shut tight, the mouth of an executioner or a saint. He looked at the granite. To be cut, he thought, and made into walls. He looked at a tree. To be split and made into rafters. He looked at a streak of rust on the stone and thought of iron ore under the ground. To be melted and to emerge as girders against the sky. These rocks, he thought, are here for me; waiting for the drill, the dynamite and my voice; waiting to be split, ripped, pounded, reborn, waiting for the shape my hands will give to them. [The Fountainhead, pp 15-16]

    Many regard this attitude as arrogant, and INTPs are likely, especially in their later years, after finding out that most others are faking an understanding of the laws of nature, to think of themselves as the prime movers who must pit themselves against nature and society in an endless struggle to define ends clearly and adopt whatever means that promise success. If this is arrogance, then at least it is not vanity, and without question it has driven the design engineers to take the lead in molding the structure of civilization.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3A full description of the Architect and Rational is in Please Understand Me or Please Understand Me II[/SIZE]

    Famous INTPs

    Real INTP People

    Abraham Lincoln - American President
    Albert Einstein - German physicist
    Ashley Olsen - actress (Full House)
    Blaise Pascal - French mathematician
    Bob Newhart - comedian, actor
    Brent Spiner - actor ("Data" on Star Trek)
    Carl Jung - Swiss psychiatrist
    Charles Darwin - English naturalist
    Gerald Ford - American President
    James Madison - American President
    Jeff Bingaman - U.S. Senator
    John Quincy Adams - American President
    John Tyler - American President
    Mary-Kate Olsen - actress (Full House)
    Meryl Streep - actress
    Midori Ito - Japanese figure skater
    Rene Descartes - French philosopher
    Rick Moranis - actor (Honey, I Shrunk the Kids)
    Socrates - Greek philosopher
    William Harvey - medical doctor
    William James - American psychologist


    Fictional INTPs (Characters)

    Ash - Alien
    Avon - Blake's 7
    Brian Griffin - Family Guy
    Data - Start Trek: The Next Generation
    Dr. Susan Lewis - E.R. TV show
    Filburt - Rocko's Modern Life
    Seven of Nine - Star Trek: Voyager
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suet Seung View Post
    It is said that when you take these tests, you should go with the first answer you think of and answer it truthfully, not how you want to present yourself or you think you should answer that way. It has to be answered implusively or else it wouldn't quite as accurate.
    Thats a very good point; its very true.

    Also, as my professor was giving this out. While, I'm an INTJ and my professor INTP; we're definitely odd/weird whatever, still we both are quiet rare when it comes to personality types.

    INTP:


    [SIZE=3]Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is the structural engineering role -- architechtonics -- that reaches the highest development in INTPs, and it is for this reason they are aptly called the "architects." Their major interest is in figuring out structure, build, configuration -- the spatiality of things.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=3]As the engineering capabilities the INTPs increase so does their desire to let others know about whatever has come of their engineering efforts. So they tend to take up an informative role in their social exchanges. On the other hand they have less and less desire, if they ever had any, to direct the activities of others. Only when forced to by circumstance do they allow themselves to take charge of activities, and they exit the role as soon as they can without injuring the enterprise.[/SIZE]


    [SIZE=3] The INTPs' distant goal is always to rearrange the environment somehow, to shape, to construct, to devise, whether it be buildings, institutions, enterprises, or theories. They look upon the world -- natural and civil -- as little more than raw material to be reshaped according to their design, as a formless stone for their hammer and chisel. Ayn Rand, master of the Rational character, describes this characteristic in the architect Howard Roark, her protagonist in The Fountainhead:
    [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]He was looking at the granite. He did not laugh as his eyes stopped in awareness of the earth around him. His face was like a law of nature-a thing one could not question, alter or implore. It had high cheekbones over gaunt, hollow cheeks; gray eyes, cold and steady; a contemptuous mouth, shut tight, the mouth of an executioner or a saint. He looked at the granite. To be cut, he thought, and made into walls. He looked at a tree. To be split and made into rafters. He looked at a streak of rust on the stone and thought of iron ore under the ground. To be melted and to emerge as girders against the sky. These rocks, he thought, are here for me; waiting for the drill, the dynamite and my voice; waiting to be split, ripped, pounded, reborn, waiting for the shape my hands will give to them. [The Fountainhead, pp 15-16]
    [/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]Many regard this attitude as arrogant, and INTPs are likely, especially in their later years, after finding out that most others are faking an understanding of the laws of nature, to think of themselves as the prime movers who must pit themselves against nature and society in an endless struggle to define ends clearly and adopt whatever means that promise success. If this is arrogance, then at least it is not vanity, and without question it has driven the design engineers to take the lead in molding the structure of civilization.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=3]A full description of the Architect and Rational is in Please Understand Me or Please Understand Me II[/SIZE]
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