Thread: A step into the past - 寻秦记 - by Huang Yi

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    LOL at CC! Although even Li Mochou went 'weak' a few times when Yang Guo hugged her from behind, so perhaps this is a common theme that Huang Yi just explores a bit more.
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    I hate to say it, but this book really looks like a porn flick.

    Even so it is still (perhaps because of it) very amusing.

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    I believe this book.

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    to continue.... new chapter....

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    Wu Yingyuan smiled slightly and said, Thats good too! Ive never liked Lian Jin. This person is unfathomable and is in cahoots with Wu Hei. Its just that Father trusts them, so theres nothing I can do to them.

    Xiang Shaolong had a thought, Tao Fang must be Wu Yingyuans man, thats why he trusted him as well and revealed his true feelings. He probed, I heard Master Tao said, Master has the intention og marrying Grand Young Missy into the imperial family

    Wu Yingyuan gave a cold snort and said, My numerous arguments with Father is precisely because of this. Father is getting on in age, and cannot see clearly the situation now.

    Xiang Shaolong exclaimed in surprise, Young Master!

    Wu Yingyuan looked at him, his eyes glaring and asked coldly, Shaolong! Tell me honestly, where did you come from, what blood flows in your body.

    Xiang Shaolong knows that if he has to make up a story, he cannot hesitate and immediately replied, Since Young Master thinks so highly of Shaolong, I dare not hide anything from you. Actually I am the offspring of a Qin man, who has wandered into the mountain regions, and a local woman. I did not even tell Master Tao about this.

    Because Wu Yingyuan already had such a thinking in his mind, he was not suspicious at all. He thought for a moment and asked, If I were to give Fanger to you, would you promise to love her well for the rest of your life?

    Xiang Shaolong was ecstatic, but immediately asked dejectedly, But why would Master agree to it?

    Wu Yingyuan replied impatiently, Forget about him first.

    Xiang Shaolong hurriedly made his promise.

    The corners of Wu Yingyuans mouth curved up into a slight smile and he said joyfully, I admire you not wholly because of your outstanding swordsmanship, or your outstanding reflexes and intelligence when dealing with the horse thieves. The most important matter is that you risked your own life and stayed behind to fight the thieves so that your comrades can leave safely. Such loyalty to your master and friends is what reassures me into giving Fanger to you. This is a secret agreement for now, and besides Tao Fang, you must not let a 4th person know about this, and that includes Fanger.

    Xiang Shaolong felt that he seems to have some plans in his mind, and needs his wits and swordsmanship, so he lowered his voice and asked, If theres anything Young Master needs Shaolong to do, just let me know.

    A look of surprise flashed past Wu Yingyuans eyes, and he complimented him, Tao Fang was right about you, with your keen observation, you will certainly be someone famous in future.

    He paused for a moment before continuing, Father is really getting old, and does not know that the situation is rapidly changing.

    He added, Ever since the 3 states declared independence, the first to attack among the 3 states Zhao, Wei and Han is Marquis Wei. The Qin in the west, Qi in the east, Han and Chu in the south, Zhao in the north, none of them were spared from his attacks. Even Handan, this sturdy large city was captured by him for 2 years. If not for the state of Qis help, the Weis would not have retreated.

    That 3 months when Xiang Shaolong was with Yuan Zong they often talked about the affairs of the world, and is not as ignorant as when he first arrived. He added, But later on the Wei soldiers lost in the battle of Maling under Wu Qi and Sun Bin. Later Qin, Qi and Zhao continuously attacked Wei, making them lose able generals and soldiers and a huge piece of land so now theyre not as powerful as before.

    Wu Yingyuan was very impressed with his knowledge and nodded his head, Theres not many in Handan who has your insight. Shaolong, tell me, who do you think is the strongest.

    Xiang Shaolong replied without a thought, Of course its Qin, the world will ultimately be conquered by Qin. He secretly laughed to himself, not only is there no one in Handan who has his insight, but no one in the entire warring states will be as confident of this as he is.

    Wu Yingyuan was startled, Although I thinking highly of Qin, but Im not as sure as you are. Why would you have this thinking?

    Xiang Shaolong was almost speechless, luckily an idea flashed past and he replied, The key point is whether the various states in the east can join forces to repel Qin, and looking at the war between Yan and Zhao now, we know the outcome of that.

    Wu Yingyuan replied, What you meant is Lian Heng and He Zong.

    The former means the weak joining forces to attack one strong force.

    The latter means one strong force attacking all weak forces.

    These are the two extreme policies during the warring states period.

    Qin is in the west, the other 6 strong states, Qi, Wei, Zhao, Han, Chu and Yan are at the south. Any state that joins forces with Qin will be a unification between the south and west, and thus named Lian Heng. If the 6 states were to join forces, itll be unification of the north and south, and theyre referred to as He Zong.

    The situation now is getting more and more obvious, the 6 states are gradually losing the ability to fight against Qin on their own. Although there were small victories, its not enough to change the whole situation. But if they were to join forces, their strength will far surpass Qin. Therefore what Qin fears most is the unification of the 6 states. As the saying goes, the only fear is the unification of the world against oneself.

    Xiang Shaolong nodded his head like an expert and said, At the moment which state in the southeast is willing to maintain status quo. All the rulers wants to take this opportunity to expand their land and fight for gains so that they can become ruler of the world, so its impossible for them to unite.

    Wu Yingyuan looked at him in shock and said, Luckily you are not my enemy, but my future son-in-law.

    Of course Xiang Shaolong understood his underlying meaning, which is to say that if that is not the case, hell certainly get rid of him. He was about to speak when Wu Tingfang returned and said with a dainty smile, Father has never enjoyed a conversation as much as this, Shaolong is really capable.

    Wu Yingyuan looked heavenward and laughed for a long time before saying, Father has to take a look at the account books, Fanger will accompany Shaolong around! and he left on his horse.

    Xiang Shaolong jumped down from his horse.

    Wu Tingfang smiled coquettishly at him and rolled her eyes, It seems that Father likes you a lot? When will Shaolong ask him for my hand, then Fanger will be able to be with you everyday, so dont you find me irritating then.

    After Xiang Shaolong swore to heaven that he will not change his heart, he walked slowly while holding the 2 majestic horses saying, After I win Lian Jin and have fame and status, Ill marry you immediately. My only fear is if I will pass your Grandfathers barrier.

    Wu Tingfangs eyes reddened and said, If Grandfather does not agree, Fanger will die in front of him.

    Xiang Shaolong exclaimed in surprise, You mustnt do that, I could always elope with you and they wont be able to find us.

    Wu Tingfang tugged at his sleeve happily and said with joy, A man must keep to his words, you must not regret in future because you cant bear to give up fame and riches or because youve found a new love. Ive even given myself to you, you must treasure me for the rest of your life!

    Xiang Shaolong hurriedly said some assuring words. This beautys happiness is totally in his control now, so how can he not make her happy. He did not expect that he would be able to have wives and concubines, but in order to support them, especially a rich young lady like Wu Tingfang who is used to luxury and being served, is not going to be easy. When he thought about how penniless he was while in Wu An, he still feels a little fear.

    Wu Tingfang suddenly said, You have to be careful of Lian Jin, hes really formidable. And I think that even though he dare not kill you, but he will at least try to maim you before he gives up.

    Xiang Shaolong laughed and said, Dont worry! If I cannot defeat even him, then I'm not competent enough to marry a pretty girl like you.

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    getting interesting!! this is pretty weak defense for women just dropping their clothes off, but isn't this story set pre-confucian times? so this is like 800 - 900 years before Ming maybe the whole chastity thing wasn't as stressed yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurf120 View Post
    getting interesting!! this is pretty weak defense for women just dropping their clothes off, but isn't this story set pre-confucian times? so this is like 800 - 900 years before Ming maybe the whole chastity thing wasn't as stressed yet.
    No, Confucius lived in the 500 to 400 BC and this novel is based on Ying Zheng's time, which is around 200 BC. The burning of the books event should give u a hint.

    Anyway, before or after Confucius or not, I seriously doubt women then were like how Huang Yi describes it. If anything, I pictured them to be way more conservative.
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    This is like 200BC, before the age of contraceptives.

    All that rampant sex (e.g. Mei Canniang serving 2 husbands, Ting Fangshi serving multiple men etc etc) and no one is pregnant?

    When Shaolong finally gets Ting back, she should be in the third trimester?
    Its BIxie Jianfa Gawdammit you guys!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    This is like 200BC, before the age of contraceptives.

    All that rampant sex (e.g. Mei Canniang serving 2 husbands, Ting Fangshi serving multiple men etc etc) and no one is pregnant?
    Mei Canniang did have children but they died in infancy.

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    CC ur a funny guy...
    I enjoy reading ur posts allmost as much as i enjoy reading jeans translation.
    keep up the good work.

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    perhaps they had methods to prevent pregnancy...lol

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    i reread my post - wow, I really should not try to post at 1 AM with only 4 hours sleep the previous night. I don't even agree with my dates!

    I think I was responding to the post about what would happen if someone tried to hug/grope Meijue from HSDS. I meant maybe people weren't as prudish back then (yeh, its probably only in the mind of the author).

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    If Shao Long has children from those women, then, how come his children could exist as their father hasn't borned yet. Will this break the law of nature and time continuum ....

    Or .... just enjoy the story ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gubrak View Post
    If Shao Long has children from those women, then, how come his children could exist as their father hasn't borned yet. Will this break the law of nature and time continuum ....

    Or .... just enjoy the story ......
    I always thought about this point. It's a paradox that does not allow time travel backwards. If he killed his great great great grandfather, then he wouldn't exist. If he didn't exist, then he wouldn't have gone back in time to kill his great great great grandfather. If he didn't go back in time to kill his great great great grandfather, then how would he not exist?

    Anyway, I think of it as him travelling to a parallel universe in their time and not our (or his) universe. He can do anything in that parallel universe and nothing would happen in his own universe.
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    wow!! we are talking about time theories now!! hahaha..
    I am just going to enjoy the story!! haha

    Thanks Jean.

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    Sex and the Time Travel. Fun for the whole family :-D

    Well, maybe it works because he IS his own grand-grand-...-grand father. If you travel into the past and become your own grandfather it would be important that you will be him, so u can live in the first place. It would be something like a Time Travel Moebius ring (or is it strip)...

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    Hmmm... I think it have something to do with Shao Long
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    being infertile.

    Sometime back my sis skimmed through the novel and said it was deduced that the reason he have no biological offsprings might be due to the effect of the time travel or a series of medical experiments they did on him prior.

    Not so sure myself as I haven't read the novel yet

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    I think he should have atleast a son as the same as the one in the tvb series

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    Quote Originally Posted by rati4u View Post
    perhaps they had methods to prevent pregnancy...lol
    The world's first method? Fast reflexes?

    I do like that XS is beginning to show his knowledge of history and use that to his advantage
    now that he has the benefit of foresight. Otherwise, what's the point of the story?
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    oh well, XSL is also pondering the same questions as you guys.... erm, the time travel part, not the impotency part.

    Last chapter of book 1!

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    Book 1 Chapter 13 Comparison of love

    When Xiang Shaolong returned to Handan, its already dusk. After saying sweet farewells to Wu Tingfang, he hurriedly rode back to the guest house.

    The biggest benefit he got from this trip is the beauty Wu Tingfang and establishing friendship and understanding with her father. Also, under Wu Yingyuans instructions, he is more familiar with the behavior of horses and the techniques of riding.

    For someone like him who was in the elite force undergoing strict training, what he has learnt in a day is equivalent to what an average person will learn in a year.

    When he reached the guesthouse, he was shocked to see Zhao soldiers standing guard at the entrance. Luckily he bumped into Li Shan and found out that after the King of Zhao heard about the matters regarding Prince Shaoyuan and Wu Tingwei, he warned everyone not to touch Xiang Shaolong and even transferred his guards to protect him.

    On one hand he was surprised at how well informed the King of Zhao was, but he has this feeling that this duel is not as simple as it seems.

    He was still deep in thought when Li Shan told him, Lady Ya ordered you to go to her residence immediately after you come back, the horse carriage is waiting for you!

    Xiang Shaolong was secretly lamenting. Hes not superman, these few days he has been making love day and night with the 3 beauties Shuer, Lady Ya and Wu Tingfang, and each time he did his best. He had just been involved with Wu Tingfang, so how should he satisfy Lady Ya now.

    He is so tortured that he almost groaned. He hurriedly went back and changed his clothes, consoled Shuer who could not bear to let him leave, went up the horse carriage and fell asleep, ignoring everything else. When he woke up he realized its deep into the night and hes already in the Ladys residence. Lady Ya slept curled up next to him, like a tame little cat.

    Xiang Shaolong felt a warmness surrounding his heart and after calling her twice, realized that shes still having sweet dreams. He gently kissed her face, eyes, nose, mouth before carefully covering her with the blanket and stood up to walk to the window.

    He stretched lazily and felt refreshed and recharged, thinking to himself that if he has to handle a few women now, his stamina would be able to take it.

    No matter what, after he wins Lian Jin, he must go and look for Ying Zheng, itll be good even if he can take a look at him. If he did not see this great man who created China single handedly, hell not die in peace.

    But theres one thing that he cant figure out. Handan is such a heavily guarded city, how is an important person like him who has the criteria to ascend the Qin throne going to slip out? If he doesnt return to Xianyang, how can he ascend the throne then?

    The Handan city in movies is just an unguarded city, but its totally different in real life. How will Ying Zheng return to become Emperor Qin?

    In the past Ying Zhengs father Yi Ren had the help of the wealthy Lu Buwei before he could escape successfully. Since the Zhaos had this as an example, they would not let the same thing happen again. Even if Lu Buwei is not coming, and the Zhaos have forgotten about what he has done, itll still be difficult to use the same ploy again.

    Besides its not something that can be accomplished in a few days. From the time Lu Buwei met Yi Ren, until the tile Yi Ren returned to Qin, it took more than 10 years. If not for the battle of Changping where 4,000,000 Zhaos were killed by the Qins, Yi Ren and Lu Buwei would not have taken the risk to return to Qin for fear of revenge. And they had no choice but to leave behind Zhao Ji and her son Ying Zheng.

    How old is Ying Zheng this year, does he look as tall and large as the Qins? He really wants to know, if only there is someone he can ask.

    Shaolong!

    Shaolong was just thinking that hell be executed if someone finds out about this, so he was really startled when he heard his name.

    He turned around.

    The extremely beautiful and flimsily dressed Lady Ya was looking at him with a coquettishly smile.

    Xiang Shaolong replied, I thought you were asleep, you really startled me.

    Lady Ya moved over and hugged him tightly from behind, her slender arms twining around his neck and said, If I dont pretend to be asleep, how I can test if youre really gentle. I thought you were lying to me, but when I saw that you were really startled by me, I realized you really did not know that I was feigning sleep.

    Xiang Shaolong was secretly feeling guilty. He was deep in thought about betraying the state of Zhao, but he accidentally hit the right note instead, which is really lucky.

    Smelling her intoxicating fragrance, feeling the touch of her skin, Xiang Shaolongs hands cant help but start caressing and kneading her back, and of course he will not let her perky bottom off as well.

    Lady Ya closed her eyes and enjoyed his loving touches, and mumbled dreamily, You dont know how heavy you are, 4 soldiers had so much trouble carrying you in, Im afraid youll crush me to death one of these days.

    Xiang Shaolong had a lusty thought and replied with a laugh, But last night Lady was complaining that my movements were not strong enough.

    Lady Ya rolled her eyes at him and left his embrace. She held up his hand and said, Actually once I saw you, I wanted to make love with you immediately, but I dont know why now I feel like having a heart to heart talk with you instead. Come! You should be hungry by now, shall we go to the little pavilion in the back garden and enjoy the moon and a feast?

    This is the first time Xiang Shaolong heard her talking to him in such an agreeable manner, and saw that she is not only looking for carnal satisfaction from him and knows that this wanton has started to develop feelings for him. He has a sense of accomplishment from conquering this difficult woman. Just as he was about to speak, his stomach started rumbling.

    Lady Ya was amused and after laughing coquettishly, cast a flirtatious look at him and led him out of the room.

    The clear moon hung high up in the sky, illuminating the whole garden and the little 2-story pavilion.

    Lady Ya sighed quietly and said, When I woke up this morning, I actually made up my mind not to look for you again, or maybe not to look for you so soon. But in less than an instant I ordered my men to bring you here, but later I thought it was inappropriate. So I changed to getting my servants to fetch you in a horse carriage. Who would have expected you to have gone out of the city with Wu Yingyuan and his daughter so early in the morning, making me wait a whole day restlessly for you. I didnt want to see anyone else, even when my brother asked for me, I feigned illness not to go.

    Listening to this ultimate beauty revealing her true feelings, Xiang Shaolong only felt sweetness in his heart.

    Ever since the time machine brought him back to this warring states period 2000 years ago, things have been crashing in him wave by wave, not giving him the chance to think properly all that has happened. He can only struggle to survive.

    Now he is suddenly clear minded. Heavens! Hes really in the ancient world, coming into contact with those people of a different era, talking, even fighting and making love.

    His only regret is he was unable to ask that crazy Ma a few more questions, regarding what this is all about.

    Hasnt all these already happened? Why is it now he still has a past, present and future, just like his old reality.

    If he were to change what has already happened, what repercussions will it have on the future?

    Or are there countless past, and what he is facing now is only one of them.

    Everything is as surreal as a dream.

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    Jean, you post those translations like clockwork.

    Much thanks!

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