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    The initial principles that he teaches Linghu Chong which were to adapt the sword stances (right before he teaches DG9J) with slight variations in order to connect the stances together greatly improved his skill. However, this seems like a really, really basic principle that regardless of whether you are the Qi Branch or the Sword Branch you should be using. Why didn't YBQ teach LHC earlier? I can't imagine an expert like YBQ limiting himself to stances that only connect to other stances if they end and start at certain positions, this would cause the number of changes and permutations to be drastically reduced. Does this seem illogical to anyone else and only used to further the plot, or do you think that YBQ really doesn't understand or teach such a simple principle?

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    Depends on the theoretical profoundness of the principles underlying "stance change"

    Knowing wuxia physics, there is probably some high level of understanding which allows a martial artists to "adapt" outside of conventional techniques.

    Example: In real-life traditional martial arts, there are set rules for stances. You can't usually go from a Taichi stance into a Karate stance, and then finish it off with a muay thai kick. It normally doesn't work.

    But to an elite master (one's who've trained in various styles), they somtimes can transcend that limitation. Like a Taichi sifu who can also blend Bagua palms with their Mantis stike, etc. Or much like the Jeet Kun Do philosophy of all arts being one.

    Perhaps what FQY had to offer was this superior level of martial enlightenment, whereas, LHC can now transform his various varying techniques into a usable sum of many parts.

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    Yes it does seem like a forced 'Plot Device' that the entire Qi branch of the Huashan school is so crappy that they have to follow any single stance _only_ with stances with starting points that coincide with the ending point of the previous stance.

    Its like asking a Karate fighter to fight using only the exact same stances found in his kata without the slightest deviation. He would get floored by even an amateur if he was so restricted.
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    Yeah it'd be understandable if he was melding different sword arts, but the advice he got was something along the lines of "If your sword is held to your right and the next move you want to do starts from the left, you can move your sword to the left immediately after the first move!"....which seems entirely obvious and necessary for any basic fighting. But instead LHC is like OMGWOW and improved greatly.

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    this is how the theory of swordsmanship is supposed to work out.
    there are low level moves, slashing, stabbing, etc randomly. and then there are high class moves. the high class moves have clever positioning and complex changes within the moves. to execute the move in a way that it is effective against the opponent, the stance must be executed perfectly in order to release the power of the move.
    when LHC dueled against his teacher-wife after finding the moves that break five-mountain swordplay, he lost confidence in his swordplay and executed the moves in an weak manner. the moves were correct but positions were off and thus the power of the move was ineffective. if he had fought against a serious opponent, the opponent would have knocked the sword out of his hands and killed him right there. when FQY told him to make the moves convinent for himself, he actually taught him how to move from one position to another without weakening the power of the moves. FQY told him which moves could be linked up freely, in the process showing him new variations of the moves that LHC did not know where possible. LHC had studied huashan swordplay most of his life, so he was able to understand how to do the same for other huashan sword moves. but the reason he could do it was because he had the talent and intelligence to do so, and his character matched this style of sword fighting. eariler FQY demostrated the huashan jade maiden 13 sword moves as a whole. because of this LHC already had the idea in his head. with FQY's explanation, he was able to perform the same with the other five mountain swordmoves. then FQY taught him the no-move ideal, which was built upon the earlier linked-move ideal. what LHC learned from each idea is creative variations. he was still using the swordmoves he learned before and saw on the wall but he could use them freely. DG9J was the next level, infinite variations of one move to break 9 types of attacks.
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