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    Quote Originally Posted by Nan Ling View Post
    I think he did ponder about leaving but greed and pride took the best of him.
    Yes, I remember this part too. Then he was bullied by people. So he decided to go back to be the "prince".

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    I think he didn't really change until the last moments before death......

    I feel his character play by Gallen Lo in the 94 version was ruthless....

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    What if Chor Lau Heung meets Wong Yung (LOCH 1982)?


    Find it out in my latest fanfiction here:

    http://becomingicha.blogspot.com.au/...anfiction.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Hi Icha Parvati, have you seen any other LOCH? Is this your first and only LOCH? What's your opinions of the series?

    Interestingly, LOCH82 is the only LOCH I watch to date fully. I find the songs in LOCH 82 to be nice. Very often, I listen to them on YouTube.
    Nope, this is the first LOCH I watch... and I don't think I have time to watch other versions TBH... I love the series so far, tho YK's death was so heart-breaking for me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by wkeej View Post
    Yes, I remember this part too. Then he was bullied by people. So he decided to go back to be the "prince".
    This! I remember someone said that he actually left the Jins to join the Songs, but then he was bullied. But in the series I have been watching (59 eps total), YK only went to the Niu Village dressed as a poor man. Then, some Jins bullied him when he claimed he was the Young Prince (still wearing the tattered clothes).

    Or is there another episode where YK actually did live in seclusion with Nianci where the people bullied him? If so, that part must have been cut from the 59 eps then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nan Ling View Post
    I think he didn't really change until the last moments before death......

    I feel his character play by Gallen Lo in the 94 version was ruthless....
    I read somewhere in this forum that the poster didn't really care about YK/MNC until he saw Michael's and Sharon's version. Michael's Yang Kang was truly multifaceted, it's so difficult to truly hate him.

    however, that version is still ruthless. Hence, I am scared to know how ruthless the 94 version was...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icha Parvati View Post
    What if Chor Lau Heung meets Wong Yung (LOCH 1982)?


    Find it out in my latest fanfiction here:

    http://becomingicha.blogspot.com.au/...anfiction.html
    I added a short ending paragraph. Please refresh your browser if you are reading the fanfic to get the update. Thanks! ^_^

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    LOCH '82 did a lot of favors for the Yeung Hong character...fleshed him out into a three-dimensional, fully-realized character with whom the audience could sympathize, even as it denounced his evil actions. To hear readers of the original LOCH novel tell it, the canonical version of YH was a much flatter character: a one-dimensional bad boy with no redeeming or sympathetic qualities whatsoever.

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    I kinda see where this came from. I read several first chapters of the novel last week, up to ch 7 where Yeung Hong appeared in a contest. He kept fighting with Kwok Ching despite Mrs Yeung telling him to stop fighting. In the 82 TVB, YH still listened to his mother's advice, tho he later would also sneak out doing bad things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icha Parvati View Post
    This! I remember someone said that he actually left the Jins to join the Songs, but then he was bullied. But in the series I have been watching (59 eps total), YK only went to the Niu Village dressed as a poor man. Then, some Jins bullied him when he claimed he was the Young Prince (still wearing the tattered clothes).
    I think it is the part.

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    Thank you for your confirmation re: YH being humiliated by the army.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    I don't think Yeung Hong ever CROSSED over to the Dark Side. He was kind of born there. The question of interest was whether he'd ever turn to the *Light* Side.
    You're right. I guess he did try to cross to the light side...but then he crossed back to the dark side again... So that's my NO for, I guess... ^_^

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    I just finished the series. I like it... but I do have some quibbles about it. Will write later on my blogpost.

    Also, I then learned that the 2008 LOCH (with Yuan Hong as Yang Kang and Liu Shishi as Mu Nianci) actually portrayed YK in a much better light than even the 1982 version... and they even made YK meeting his newborn son months before he died.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Le...008_TV_series)

    Anyone has an opinion on this? I'm not going to watch 2008 LOCH, no time. Too much time already spent on the 1982 version. But I just want to know... I suppose, it's a relieve to see a less evil version of YK, cos I now I've learned that the novel version was such an evil being... I have stopped reading the novel because of that.

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    I posted summary of eps 40-49 below:

    http://becomingicha.blogspot.com.au/...40-49-and.html

    One more post to, well, post for eps 50-59, tho I've finished watching the series and still try to overcome my sadness over YK's death (tho he deserved his fate...).

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    I posted the final 10 eps of LOCH 1982 here:
    http://becomingicha.blogspot.com.au/...50-59-and.html

    and also posted some screen caps of Yang Kang's demise here:
    http://becomingicha.blogspot.com.au/...reen-caps.html

    and thus endth my viewing of LOCH 1982...

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    Apologies for cross-posting.

    To accommodate the growing wuxia/jianghu posts I have on my personal blog, I have published a new blogspot specifically for that topic. This blog is specifically for wuxia, jianghu or wulin posts, in particular those featuring Michael Miu Kiu Wai and Barbara Yung Mei Ling.

    http://riverandlakerealm.blogspot.com.au/

    Below are some links for the four main Michael/Barbara wuxia series:

    LOCH 1982:
    http://riverandlakerealm.blogspot.co...abel/LOCH%2082

    The Foundation 1984:
    http://riverandlakerealm.blogspot.co...ndation%201984

    Fearless Duo 1984:
    http://riverandlakerealm.blogspot.co...Fearless%20Duo

    The New Adventures of Chor Lau Heung 1984:
    http://riverandlakerealm.blogspot.co...%20Lau%20Heung

    I have copied all old posts of those series from my old blog to the new blog. All comments have been imported there too.

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    Just out of curiosity since I really do not remember the ending, what happens to the princess that was Felix's childhood friend but later realize that Felix's character didn't love her. I always felt bad for her character.

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    Poor girl, that one. In the 1982 ver, she just left Guo Jing and the Mongols after she tipped him about Genghis Khan's plan to attack Xiangyang. I think that also happened in the novel; she became a recluse. But I haven't finished reading the book...Basically Huazheng felt guilty because GJ's mum died due to her father's cruelty. That's why she tipped GJ about the attack.

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    What if Yeung Hong managed to escape death... at least until Yeung Gor was born? This fanfic below was inspired by the 2008 LOCH which gave YK the chance to be with his son and wife for a few months... and born of my wish of Yeung Hong having a closure with Wong Yung...

    http://riverandlakerealm.blogspot.co...loch-1982.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icha Parvati View Post
    Poor girl, that one. In the 1982 ver, she just left Guo Jing and the Mongols after she tipped him about Genghis Khan's plan to attack Xiangyang. I think that also happened in the novel; she became a recluse. But I haven't finished reading the book...Basically Huazheng felt guilty because GJ's mum died due to her father's cruelty. That's why she tipped GJ about the attack.
    That's so sad, kind of seems like she has nowhere to go... cannot return home and also loses her childhood friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icha Parvati View Post
    Poor girl, that one. In the 1982 ver, she just left Guo Jing and the Mongols after she tipped him about Genghis Khan's plan to attack Xiangyang. I think that also happened in the novel; she became a recluse. But I haven't finished reading the book...Basically Huazheng felt guilty because GJ's mum died due to her father's cruelty. That's why she tipped GJ about the attack.
    I thought Huazheng felt guilty because she was the one who tipped Genghis off about Guo Jing and Li Ping wanting to leave the camp. She had no idea that they were leaving for such an important reason, and thought that her father might be able to persuade them to stay - in the end she ended up causing Li Ping's death.

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    Ah yes, you're right. She told Dad that GJ and Li Ping were leaving, hence Genghis Khan captured them, which ended up in Li Ping's death. It was sad, that one episode...

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