I agree. Who is he to judge you and impose his screwed up beliefs. American chinese isn't real chinese - what is real chinese if China has 20+ dialects and ethnic groups. It's worse than an English telling us we can't speak real English.
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Having said that, it depends on how it's said. If the middle-aged Chinese guy said it with a condescending tone (Chinese > Chinese American), I'd give him serious sh!t for it. Otherwise, I actually agree with him. Chinese Americans are, well, Chinese Americans & not just Chinese.
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who died and made this man in his forties the authority on who is chinese or non-chinese?
no one is really interested in the nitty gritty of what ethnic group you belong to. Compare hongkong chinese with taiwan chinese, they are pretty disimilar, now compare them with mainland chinese. Pretty different. Northern and southern chinese look as similar as a champagne flute and shot glass, but I'm pretty sure they are all drinkware. And being chinese doesn't mean that you get a get out of jail free card. I'm pretty sure that northerners who move to the south are about as foreign to the southerners as overseas chinese, and even more trampled upon, considering mainland chinese do treat us with a little more respect.
If we have to be cut out from the same cookie cutter to be defined as "chinese", then hardly anyone's chinese anyway. what about those of mixed ancestry? they had it much worse for eons. Consider an ethnic chinese who was born in hongkong, moved to the states when three, studied grade school in singapore, college in switzerland.... and im predicting that he will die on mars. now the multimillion dollar question is, is he chinese? but I'll leave this question to that man in his forties, for I dont give a damn.
Who care about race and ethnicity. In this modern world, all you need to care about is whether you are a success or a failure. Success is everything you need and that is what make you proud.
All this is irrelevant because to other races (particularly white), all asians look the same. I'm an ABC, and I'll never forget that no matter my progress in life, how much I've assimilated, I'll always be asian in a country dominated by white.
When I was younger my mom would take me back to Taiwan and she would take me out on the street and I wouldn't even say anything and the store owner said shes from America huh? But then Americans consider me Chinese. Another example I was with my dad and talking chinglish then this white guy asked me something and i replied in english and he was like how long have you been in the country? He was like cuz your speak english without any accent.
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To contribute constructively, as others have already mentioned, it comes down to definitions.
From my standpoint, being Chinese goes beyond skin/hair color. I consider myself thus because:
The point I'm trying to make is that if you're yellow skinned with black hair and Chinese parents but want to have nothing to do with the Chinese culture, despise the language, and feel no sense of patriotism for the country, then I wouldn't consider you Chinese. But if you do yourself, then by all means.
- I like the culture. I'm very selfish and individualistic at times, but I would prefer it if the world was more collectivist. China's becoming more and more "Westernized", with less household savings, a faster pace of life, etc. And I wish this wasn't the case. I guess I'm a conservative in this sense.
- I like watching the sometimes ridiculously childish dramas. Sure "24" is the most thrilling and "The Office" is the funniest series. But there's just something about wuxia that hearkens to me.
- I like speaking the language. All of my azn friends speak English at home, and I never did. It could be because I grew up in Xi'an, but there's plenty of other kids I know who moved here when they were 10 and only speak English.
And I will disagree with some of the comments here, that you should decide if you want to be Chinese or American or whatever. This is ridiculous. Find out what you want to actually do (play ping pong instead of tennis, major in engineering instead of women's studies), and feel content that way. There shouldn't be a reason that you would want to fit someone else's definition. If other people label you one way or another because of what you do (I made the choices stereotypical for this reason), so be it. You're happy doing what you want anyways.
You should have told him that the real Chinese live in China. And since he doesn't live in China, then he's not really Chinese at all.
Full credit if you could make him curse.
Extra bonus points if you could make him cry.
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When we discussed about whether society should legalize prostitution, I against it because in my view it is a bad thing and send the wrong message to young girls that they don't need education. They can be successful by becoming a prostitute.
If I remember correctly, you said prostitute is a profession in australia with government regulation and everything is ok. You support legalize it. So I thought you are Australian..... That is all....