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    http://newpaper.asia1.com.sg/show/st...50376,00.html?

    THEY may be heart-throbs to millions around the world, but Li Yapeng and Nicholas Tse are ugly, according to foreign women in China, polled for a study. Yapeng, a popular mainland Chinese TV actor and superstar Faye Wong's husband, was thought by Western women in a study to be the ugliest of 18 well-known Asian male personalities. Close behind him are director Wong Kar-wai, China actor Ge You, action star Jackie Chan and Hong Kong's Nicholas.

    The study, done by a professor at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, has raised some eyebrows around theworld. The stars themselves were surprised. Yapeng's manager Ma Jia said: 'The study is very frivolous. The Eastern and Western measures of beauty are very different in the first place.'

    Ms Stephanie Goh, a 20-year-old student here, thought calling Yapeng the ugliest man was 'ridiculous'.

    'Li Yapeng may not be handsome in the conventional sense, but he has his charm, especially in his roles in period drama serials,' she said.

    The survey polled 108 foreign women in Shanghai to find out 'the image of famous Chinese actors in the eyes of Western women'.

    They were shown pictures of 18 well-known Asian men, including Tony Leung Chiu-wai, Andy Lau, Stephen Chow, Jay Chou, Takeshi Kaneshiro, Jet Li and Zhang Yimou.

    Professor Zhang Jiehai, who led the two-year study, told the Chinese media that the male celebrities he chose were the source of Western women's impression of Chinese men.

    STUDY SLAMMED

    Many netizens are appalled by the study and question its value. An enraged Chinese national wrote: 'What has (it) to do with raising the status of the country and improving people's lives? The most disgusting thing is trying to find out the opinions of foreigners. Are the Chinese people living for others?'

    Another netizen wrote: 'Instead of researching on psychology, you're studying people's looks?... Aren't your academy's expenses paid by tax-payers?'

    Radio 100.3FM deejay Ken Low, who has many foreign friends from when he was studying in Australia, also agreed that Western perceptions of beauty are different from those in the East.

    He said: 'Those whom we think are ugly, they (Westerners) think of as cute and special.

    'How we view beauty boils down to the different influences from our backgrounds and cultures.'

    So what did the foreign women dislike about men like Yapeng and Nicholas? If the study is anything to go by, it's their long hair. The women polled reportedly said that was is fashionable for men to have short hair - to portray their manliness - while long hair is equated with a wanderer or beggar.

    However, contradicting this finding was the result for the best-looking actor - Takeshi, who sports long hair. Why the seemingly contradictory opinions? Radio 100.3FM vice-president Anna Lim had an explanation.

    She said: 'Women, whether Western or Asian, have the same problem. They may use trends to assess a man. But if they fancy a particular man, they forget all about trends.'

    Heavenly King Andy Lau emerged the biggest winner. Although only third in the looks department (see box at right), he was deemed to have the best qualities as a husband, lover and working partner.

    Dr Zhang said the study could help Chinese male stars who are looking at tapping the international market.

    He said: 'There are two schools of thought. One is to copy the West entirely. Andy Lau is a role model among the Chinese male actors in terms of packaging.

    'The second is to establish a unique Chinese image, such as Jackie Chan, who use gongfu to stand out, but women are not necessarily attracted tothem.'

    However, Ms Loh pointed out that show business has room for all types and said that one doesn't need good looks to be internationally successful.

    Deejay Ken Low agreed: 'Stars like Jackie Chan may not be conventionally handsome, but because of the hard work they have put in through the years and the charity work they have done, they appeal to people.'

    Survey results

    THE UGLY GUYS

    1. Li Yapeng
    2. Wong Kar-wai
    3. Ge You
    4. Jackie Chan
    5. Nicholas Tse

    THE GOOD-LOOKERS

    1. Takeshi Kaneshiro
    2. Jet L
    3. Andy Lau
    4. Liu Ye
    5. Tony Leung Chiu-wai


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    Well in reality, beauty is also measured by how big of a bank account anyways.

    So anyone can be ugly but rich and famous and they'll still get laid.
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    Oh yea...can you post their pictures? Maybe they are ugly. lol

    Nevermind. I went to the link. They don't look too bad. Jacky Chan is uglier. LOL
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    Shocking that Nicholas went into the ugly category.
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    Lucky for those women, DD batteries in China are cheap.
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    Not sure that Nic should be in the ugly category. I think he's actually kind of hot.
    But i agree with everyone else on the ugly/hot list

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    I'm surprise that Liu Ye ranked top 5. I'm a fan of his, but I don't think he's very good looking. His look is above average, but there are many actors better looking than him. He's an amazing actor though. Maybe the western women are attracted to his soulful eyes.

    Anyway, congrats to Liu Ye.

    Btw, does anyone know the full list actors involved in the survey?
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    well, asian people find a lot of westerner stars hideously ugly.

    and good to know takeshi kaneshiro is hot no matter where you're from.
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    nothing surprising about Nicholas Tse, i never see him as goodlooking.......

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    LYP, i don't think he is drop dead gorgeos. but not hideous. I think jackie is uglier


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sugar View Post
    LYP, i don't think he is drop dead gorgeos. but not hideous. I think jackie is uglier


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    Well i don't necessarily agree with the ranks, but i do agree in general.

    The funny thing about Li Ya Peng is that he is pretty ugly when you look at photos of him normally, but for some reason, he seems so hot as Linghu Chong

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    Takeshi is good looking in any context, in any time, anywhere

    Tony Leung I don't consider all that good looking in the conventional sense but he definately has this aura about him -something about him is 'man' despite his size (figure wise, not the other...).
    I think his talent really built him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pemberly View Post
    well, asian people find a lot of westerner stars hideously ugly.
    And yet, some of them prefer fat old hairy men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh View Post
    I do agreed with those actors who are in the "THE GOOD-LOOKERS" EXCEPT Jet Li. I mean he's one of the good-looking??? Didn't think so.
    I think Jet is of the archetypal handsome young man image as far as Mainland China is considered. I hear that some old ladies view him as an ideal son (image wise).

    Tony Leung Chiu-wai , I remember seeing him with Carman Lee in a movie named "War Of The Under World"(1996).
    Now this is one that always gets me. I don't think Tony Leung is good looking at all. I would rate him 4 out of 10. But the rest of the world seems to disagree with me
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Now this is one that always gets me. I don't think Tony Leung is good looking at all. I would rate him 4 out of 10. But the rest of the world seems to disagree with me
    from movies like in the mood for love, i think tony leung has a sophisticated presence about him. i'd rate him much higher than a 4. he is definitely better than average.
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    I think Jet Li is good looking.

    Of course, now that he's older, he's not as good looking as before. But, when he's younger, he's certainly good looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pemberly View Post
    well, asian people find a lot of westerner stars hideously ugly.

    and good to know takeshi kaneshiro is hot no matter where you're from.
    I think westerner stars are mostly beautiful in the movie/tv/camera with all the professional makeups, it wouldn't surprise if they are ugly without the makeup. Of course same thing apply to asian stars. Makeup can transform ugliness to beauty....

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    nicholas tse on the ugly list. very laughable!

    he's like the best looking hk star under 30 and one of the most popular stars in hk and china.

    the good looking list should be

    1. takeshi kaneshiro
    2. nicholas tse
    3. andy lau

    and jet li is 2nd. man, that's funny. i like jet li, but his face got more holes than most human beings. if he wasn't a martial art star, there's no way in hell be in the movie industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Now this is one that always gets me. I don't think Tony Leung is good looking at all. I would rate him 4 out of 10.
    I'd rate him 2 out of 10. Sorry, but the man just doesn't do anything for me.

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