Was Yeung Ding Tin strong?

[aniking_8]

Is Z3F's master the shoalin monk who master the 9 yang be stronger then ZWJ?

[PJ]

As for this part :


What really injured ZWJ was that he withdrew his all-out palm attack and turned it on himself, as he realised that ZZR was weak and his palm would crush her. It's like he hit himself with full force.

Anyone can post the chinese passage? In DGSD when YTZ injured himself because he withdrew his palm, it was stated that any other elite fighter would be able to divert the force elsewhere and only idiot YTZ turned it back on himself. Was ZWJ being an idiot at that instance too?

You Tanzhi was quite a distance away from Ah Zi, so in that case, any normal martial artist would have had the time to shift the direction of attack to avoid target. But Zhang Wuji had already made physical contact with Zhou Zhiruo, so he had no choice but retract it.

[flamer]

二人三掌相接，张无忌猛觉周芷若双掌中竟无半分劲力，心下大骇：“啊哟，不好！她
和六叔苦斗二百余招，竟已到了油尽灯枯的境地。我这股劲力往前一送，岂非当场要了她的
性命？”危急中忙收手劲。
他初时左掌拍出，知道周芷若武功与自己已相差不远，大是强敌，丝毫不敢怠忽，加之
单掌迎双掌，这一掌乃是出了十成力，劲力刚向外吐，便即察觉对方力尽，急忙硬生生的收
回，他明知这是犯了武学的大忌，等于以十成掌力回击自身，何况在这间不容发之际突然回
收，用力更是奇猛，但他于自己内劲收发由心，这股强力回撞，最多一时气窒，决无大碍。
不料他掌力刚回，突觉对方掌力犹似洪水决堤、势不可当的猛冲过来。张无忌大吃一惊，知
道已中暗算，胸口砰的一声，已被周芷若双掌击中。那是他自己的掌力再加上周芷若的掌
力，并世两大高手合击之下，他护体的九阳神功虽然浑厚，却也抵挡不住。何况周芷若的掌
力乃乘隙而进，正当他旧力已尽、新力未生之时。

Thats the text with Zhou Zhiruo breaking ZWJ's shield.

[tape]

On a side note, was it elaborated on for the reason why Yang blinded one of the Du monks and what grudges they had against each other? It also makes me think the Du monks are not as enlightened as I used to think they were as they still dwell on revenge and repaying it onto Zhang Wuji for no real good reason except him being his successor. (The Du monks should surely be able to tell he's a young, inexperienced and naive 20 year old that doesn't really deserve it)

[Ken Cheng]

On a side note, was it elaborated on for the reason why Yang blinded one of the Du monks and what grudges they had against each other? It also makes me think the Du monks are not as enlightened as I used to think they were as they still dwell on revenge and repaying it onto Zhang Wuji for no real good reason except him being his successor. (The Du monks should surely be able to tell he's a young, inexperienced and naive 20 year old that doesn't really deserve it)

It was no secret that the Dao-generation Shaolin monks were hypocrites like so many other wulin luminaries of the HSDS era were. Were they really dedicated to their supposed principles, they would never have countenanced the imprisonment of Tse Tsun.

[PJ]

Back to a point made earlier.

Actually, 3 Du-generation monks COMBINED with their formation is an equal of Zhang Wuji. But individually, they would be less than 1/3 of Wuji, because the formation increased their power (as usual). And Yang Xiao etc weren't even 1/2 of the weakest Du monk yet. So Yang Xiao is really like 1/7 or 1/8 of Zhang Wuji's power.

[MisterM]

On a side note, was it elaborated on for the reason why Yang blinded one of the Du monks and what grudges they had against each other?

AFAIK we only know that Xie Xun's master Cheng Kun was the one that got the Du generation monks to quarrel with YDT, but we never hear any specifics about how he did it.