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    I'm not saying the series compares to the motion capture technology of Avatar or Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

    But the Lord of the Rings trilogy was produced a DECADE ago and was highly overrated for its visual effects. It never really looked that fantastic to begin with.

    Zhang Ji Zhong primarily utilized CGI and green/blue screen as well, and right from the get-go it was obvious that Peter Jackson's work *inspired* this production .... which has indeed surpassed it.

    And production values covers more than simply visual effects. The way that the sets and costumes were produced and designed is ingenious. Watch the making-of documentary.

    The Taoist Tree Immortals in ZJZ's production are blatantly based off of the gigantic tree creatures from LotR ... at least in terms of appearance. That's just one example.

    I prefer the tree immortals.

    And I don't know why so many people complain about the costumes being too "animal-like." They're demons ... they're animals that have attained demonic forms through the practice of dao (Taoism). Why WOULDN'T they look like beasts?

    If people were smart, they would recognize the way the costumes look as a POSITIVE, not a negative. Did people really expect the characters to look stupid and unrealistic ... like in past adaptations of the novel? 80% human, 20% cheap animal costume?

    I've been INCREDIBLY impressed with how the demons have looked in this series, both their demonic form costumes as well as their computer-animated beast forms (something previous adaptations never even had the balls to screw with). People are really overlooking this part right here. Since when is it okay to take gigantic nine-headed lions, elephants, bulls, and spiders on screen for granted?

    Costumes, set designs, visual effects ... Zhang Ji Zhong's adaptation takes production values to a whole new level of standard for Journey to the West.
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    Watching the White Dragon protecting Tang Monk underwater scene. Very well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceKrillo View Post
    I'm not saying the series compares to the motion capture technology of Avatar or Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

    But the Lord of the Rings trilogy was produced a DECADE ago and was highly overrated for its visual effects. It never really looked that fantastic to begin with.
    I don't think you're being anywhere near objective, but let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
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    Watch the gold fish quest yesterday. I think there's an inconsistency in the story. Most probably it's not the series fault but the source material.

    Didn't Monkey King wreak havoc in the East Dragon King place underwater in the beginning of the story? How come now how Monkey King is afraid of water and refuse to go under the sea?

    I also notice one thing about the Monk. Every time he got into trouble because he did not listen to Monkey King, he would say he regreted it and next time he will listen to Wukong. But, next time, he will again not listen to Wukong and get into trouble and the cycle repeats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cesare View Post
    I don't think you're being anywhere near objective, but let's just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

    Sha Wu Jing transforms into a gigantic sand monster at Flowing Sands River. The visual effects there are unlike anything ever seen before in a Chinese TV series ... let alone any of the lame adaptations of JTTW from the past.

    From what I even remember from those films, the only thing comparable from LotR is the Balrog monster.

    Give me some examples of how LotR has "dazzling" visual effects ... because I can't think of anything, whereas every other episode of ZJZ's series has some sort of mind-blowing, gargantuan beast that Chinese audiences have probably never seen before on the likes of television.

    I'm not sure you know exactly how high the budget for this series actually was. ZJZ went on record to confirm that there has never been a more expensive fantasy series produced in China. You'd better hope the visuals exceed those of some lame film trilogy from a decade ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd View Post
    Didn't Monkey King wreak havoc in the East Dragon King place underwater in the beginning of the story? How come now how Monkey King is afraid of water and refuse to go under the sea?
    This is a running gag from the novel that is not exclusive to ZJZ's production.

    Sun Wu Kong's weakness is apparently when he is forced to battle in an aquatic, underwater environment.

    The fat pig supposedly led the Heavenly Marine Corp. (or whatever) during his time as a god in the Taoist Pantheon, so marine-based missions are his area of expertise (in addition to laziness, gluttony, lust, being fat, and being ugly).
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    Default Zhang Ji Zhong tells haters to F*** off!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq4O3CPV8b0



    Sina Premium just posted their latest weekly news video on YouTube ... and this one features a short segment wherein Zhang Ji Zhong pretty much tells all of the haters to go F*** themselves.

    (skip to about 23:00 to see his angry reaction at a press conference)

    Go, Zhang Ji Zhong! More power to him.

    For those who do not speak Mandarin, allow me to paraphrase:

    Zhang Ji Zhong basically says to the media ... if you don't wanna watch the series, then don't F****** watch. No one's forcing your b**** a** to do so.

    I watched those 10 seconds over and over again. LOVE IT. I have a newfound respect for Zhang Ji Zhong now.

    I mean, seriously, did I or did I NOT predict his sentiments exactly? I would have expected any HUMAN being to be royally pissed off at a bunch of loser a-holes that watch the series and then nitpick at its so-called "flaws."

    In addition, the complaints about the series being too "frightening" for children are ludicrous and show just about inept and ignorant the Chinese people are with regards to their OWN culture. If they knew anything past what their lame-*** socialist government tells them (which they obviously do NOT), they would know that Journey to the West is Chinese mythology, and Chinese mythology is a sacred genre dealing with Taoism and deep philosophy ... it is HARDLY fit for children to begin with.

    This idea that Journey to the West is appropriate for children is something Zhang Ji Zhong (thank GOD) has done his part in killing. Retards.

    If these morons would use their little pea brains for even a second, they might realize that Wu Cheng'en wrote JTTW as a deep, philosophical allegory pertaining to the Taoist/Buddhist concept of achieving wisdom and attaining enlightenment ... Chinese mythology is NOT FOR F****** CHILDREN!

    I'll do my part to shoot down the idiots, and Zhang Ji Zhong will do his. Works out. Weeding out ignorance one moron at a time.

    (as if I or ZJZ really believe these idiots are even capable of understanding)
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    Well, if by high-quality effects and great production values you mean "gargantuan beasts and monsters" and the obvious (as you put it - "dazzling") stuff, then yes, XYJ definitely has more of those.
    But from what I have seen so far, many of the visual FX in XYJ look somewhat fake and awkward. LotR was (in general) more convincing, it efficiently combined computer generated imagery and more traditional methods, like camera tricks based on perspective and the like (a convincing Hobbit is an impressive achievement, a more impressive one than a balrog or a sand monster - precisey because there is nothing particularly dazzling about it). The sets and props were incredibly elaborate and costumes were fantastic. Of course, LotR *did* have its bad moments FX-wise (CGI Legolas and the like).

    ZJZ is good with visuals but he usually tends to be more opulent than he can handle at the moment.
    It never prevented me from enjoying his shows, it definitely doesn't prevent me from enjoying the hell out of XYJ and I do agree that Xin xi you ji is a ground-breaking effort in many respects and a fantastic looking series - but I am pretty sure that if PJ had ZJZ's budget and resources, he'd fare better (FX-wise).

    And once more and just for the record (if you even bother to read this far) - I like XYJ. I think ZJZ has made a series he can be unabashedly proud of. And I prefer XYJ to pretty much any series produced in the west during the past two or three years.
    But in terms of visuals, ZJZ can't quite compete with PJ or Lucas (yet).
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    Well, it really isn't fair to compare a 66-episode TV series to a couple of film trilogies (although I realize I was the one who originally made the comparison).

    Zhang Ji Zhong stated in a press conference that roughly HALF of the series is visual effects ... meaning about 1400 minutes worth of special effects (that was the number he came up with), which he had ... what? 9-18 months to shoot?

    I'd like to see Peter Jackson, George Lucas, Michael Bay, James Cameron (or any of the other big-name western film directors) produce a three-season sci fi or fantasy TV series in the SAME amount of time with equally demanding visual effects, and THEN we'll compare.


    Also ... it's easy to get lost in the superb story, dialogue, and character development when watching Zhang Ji Zhong's 60-episode epic ... and totally lose sight of the scope of the visual effects.


    However, remember the last trailer that was released just before the series first debuted last August? The long, 6-minute final trailer that really showcases the spectacular, dazzling visuals that have put all other Chinese TV productions to shame.


    The trailer condenses some of the best and most impressive visual effects from the 1400 minutes into six minutes. You do the math. There's really no point in debating when the proof is in the pudding. The trailer says it all.


    The trailer makes everything else look like poo!


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    Allow me to list all of the ways by which Zhang Ji Zhong's superior adaptation of Journey to the West (2012) has exceeded all expectations, and delivered above and beyond:

    • Ground-breaking visual effects, setting a new standard for Chinese fantasy TV series
    • Superb video editing skills, the likes of which never seen before in Chinese television
    • Highly enjoyable soundtrack and music, as well as superb sound editing/mixing
    • Beautifully-designed costumes and sets (and imaginative to boot)
    • Incredibly well-choreographed action and martial arts sequences
    • Insanely well-developed, quirky characters with plenty of diverse, multi-dimensional personalities (the portrayals of the core four have NEVER been more entertaining)
    • Characters emote in a variety of intelligent and believable ways (subtle as well) / progressive character development
    • Stupendous, smart dialogue ... witty down to every subtle line / incredible on-screen chemistry during character exchanges and interactions
    • Believable, realistic, and relatable moments of pure drama and emotion
    • Chock full of philosophical wisdom, from both Taoist and Buddhist sources ... accurately adapts the philosophical meaning of the novel and the lessons of wisdom derived from each story in the novel
    • Undoubtedly the strongest screenplay/story adaptation of the novel to date
    Faithfully adapts a Chinese mythology epic and classic and even improves upon it in every way
    • Truly lives up to the label of epic, large-scale, Chinese mythology fantasy drama TV series

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    西游记 (2012) [我爱记歌词] - Zhang Ji Zhong, Wu Yue, Xu Jin Jiang, Zang Jin Sheng

    Latest installment of some mainland singing/variety show called 我爱记歌词.

    This one features Zhang Ji Zhong and three of the main cast members of 西游记 (2012), including Xu Jin Jiang (Elvis Tsui), Zang Jin Sheng, and the sensational and ultra-talented Wu Yue.

    Skip to 26:00 (they don't appear before this point in the video). Pretty long and hilarious show.

    The cast members perform the main theme song of Journey to the West.

    Wu Yue performs his hit single from the series.

    They take a trip through Zhang Ji Zhong's acting past and try to act out some of his scenes from past TV series.

    The contestants try to act out a couple of the scenes from the new 西游记, including the infamous effeminate/metrosexual Sun Wu Kong scene.

    Wu Yue gets in on it and proves that he plays the best gender-confused Sun Wu Kong ... period.

    And some other stuff, mostly showcasing just how talented Wu Yue really is (acting, singing, dancing, comedy, etc.). Wu Yue makes the crowd go wild.

    Zhang Ji Zhong and Wu Yue are a fantastic pair, and this video shows it. Absolutely no better film maker could have produced this series, and no better actor could have portrayed Sun Wu Kong.

    Zhang Ji Zhong / Wu Yue FTW.

    Epic.
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    I've watched 19 episodes so far (viet sub), so far, I really like it. It's crazy to compare the visual effects here with American movies, because American movies they put million and million of dollars in the visual effects and they only have about < 3 hrs of the movie to do so. There's one thing that bothers me though, is the lighting and the camera movement. They need to work on that. When they put a live background behind the scenes, when they move the camera of the blue screen, the live background camera is not moved according to the blue screen camera. Also, the people sometimes look way too blurry when they are in front of the blue screen. Also, what's up with Guan Yin going away from scene, she doesn't turn around, she flies back to where she was with her back facing the direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceKrillo View Post
    Having been produced 30 years ago excuses them for the crappy visual effects ...... doesn't excuse them for anything else.How does being produced in the 80s excuse them for the horrible, HORRIBLE editing? You don't need fancy computer programs to properly EDIT a damn video, a skill so lacking in the 1986 production that I fail to understand how it can possibly be watchable by anyone who isn't a child or mentally challenged.Being produced 30 years ago is also not an excuse for the horrible, horrible dialogue. Kids programs on PBS Kids and Nick Jr. deliver more riveting dialogue ... as well as more well-developed characters than the emotion-less "robot" characters from the 1986 adaptation.In addition, both the ZJZ and Zhejiang productions are chockfull of philosophy and Taoist/Buddhist wisdom. I'm not even sure if the moron producers of the 1986 adaptation even UNDERSTOOD what Journey to the West (the NOVEL) is about. If you think it's about some monkey-looking douche bag traveling across China killing demons with a stick, then you are obviously unable to look past a thin surface layer to comprehend any kind of deeper meaning.Cue Wu Cheng'en ... rolling in his grave.Both the ZJZ and Zhejiang versions used the words xiu cheng zheng guo multiple times throughout the episodes. This phrase was never used ONCE in the original version. Based on that fact ALONE, I could argue how badly that version FAILS. Apparently the producers were too stupid to even understand that the "journey" is allegorical, representing an individual's lifelong path towards philosophical and spiritual enlightenment through contemplation and the gaining of wisdom, as well as the overcoming of hardships, in order to reach a state of intellectual purity. Retrieving the damn Buddhist scriptures is merely representative of THAT, but I guess that's just too deep for the criminally STUPID to comprehend.What's really sad and pathetic is that the majority of Chinese viewers themselves are probably too stupid to understand the philosophical depth of the novel (which is really not even that "deep" at all, compared to much deeper Taoist philosophies found elsewhere). All they can take away from the story is ... monkey hit demon with staff. Such is the stupidity of the human race.• 1986 production fails MISERABLY to convey the Taoist and Buddhist philosophies/wisdom that the novel does. I question whether the moron producers/director even understood the novel at all. FAIL.• 1986 production has no character development, drama, or emotion whatsoever ... and any present is horribly out-of-place, awkward, and a testament to the horrible direction; characters also have no personality (especially the gods) and the cast SUCK at their attempts to act. FAIL.• 1986 production tried to fit EVERY single story from the novel into ONE episode ... despite the fact that some storylines are far longer and more developed than others. The result is absolutely disastrous and results in the most retardedly uneven show ever produced. FAIL.• 1986 production has some of the worst dialogue I've ever seen on TV. Childish and uninspired at best. The very first season of Power Rangers had less corny dialogue. I could have written a better screenplay of the novel back in high school. FAIL.• 1986 production is one of the most poorly-edited TV productions in the history of the medium. Apparently blind, brain-dead children were hired to edit the scenes, because I can't imagine a fully-functioning adult being that inept. I am embarrased that this is the so-called "crown jewel" that China shows to the rest of the world. FAIL.See, I don't even need to mention the horrible visual effects ... about the ONLY thing that can be excused.The Zhejiang AND Zhang Ji Zhong adaptations excel in each of these areas. 1986 version FAILS in EVERY way possible.ZJZ/Zhejiang FTW.1986 FAIL.Couldn't make it any simpler. What's truly amazing is that I even have to make an ARGUMENT for it. It really should be plain as day, but there I go again giving more credit than I should to people and forgetting how pea-brained most of the population really are.In addition, nostalgic bias is really the only reason people still have their heads shoved so far up Liu Xiao Ling Tong's rear. The guy can't even act. Wu Yue is by FAR the best ACTOR that has ever played the character. Unlike Liu Xiao Ling Tong, he's actual been in TV productions (and the lead, no less) and actually has acting skills ... not just the ability to act like a damn primate. That's right, I went there. And that right there is argument enough.Wu Yue >>>>>>> Liu Xiao Ling TongZhang Ji Zhong >>>>>>> the pea-brained neanderthals that produced the 1986 trashEven Dao Lang's rendition of the END THEME is superior to the original's version. Wow.
    i think most viewers would disagree with you. the 1986 version is insurmountable. the cast, the acting from all actors, the script, and direction, are all superb. it can never be matched. there is a reason that this series is the most played television series on chinese television EVER. this new series has good costumes which i loved. i especially loved what they did to the face of sun wukong which matched the description in the novel very well. other than that, it failed in almost every aspect. the special effect is unconvincing. the acting is simply terrible, basically all actors looked awkward in their roles and failed to give good performances. the script is just horrifying. the direction is all over the place. no wonder the rating of this series is not good at all.

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    Zhang JiZhong Journey to the West 2011 Behind the scene more footage


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    ^ Yes ... that's the video I uploaded to YouTube ... and then posted here ... already ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceKrillo View Post
    ^ Yes ... that's the video I uploaded to YouTube ... and then posted here ... already ...


    Hey man, I found that 66 episodes version you want to watch!!! A friend on WoW showed this to me.

    It's only for DVD and for some special channel in the mainland.

    Just go on ebay and type in any of the following and you will find it.

    Chinese Drama 2011 NEW A Journey To The West Completed 66 Series 6 DVD9



    Journey to the West 66


    This last one that if you type in will be a version with english subtitle and yes it's english subtitle!!!!

    Journey to the West DVD

    type that in and in the sort box, click price from highest to lowest and it should be the at the top of the list.

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    Nice find, but they really should have just broadcast the series without any cuts to begin with.

    Regardless, the cast is fantastic.

    Zhang Ji Zhong brought back many of the major TV stars that he has collaborated with in the past.

    Xu Jin Jiang (Elvis Tsui), Liu Tao, Shu Chang, Ady An Yi Xuan, You Yong, Wei Zi, TAE, He Zhuo Yan, Hu Ke, Jessey Meng Guang Mei, and Li Tai have all been cast in Zhang Ji Zhong's adaptations of Zha Liang Yong's wuxia novels over the past decade ... including Laughing in the Wind (2001), The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2003), Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils (2003), The Return of the Condor Heroes (2006), Sword Stained with Royal Blood (2007), Royal Tramp (2008), and The Heaven Sword and Dragon Saber (2009).

    Wu Yue
    , Nie Yuan, and William Feng Shao Feng have also starred in wuxia adaptations in the past and have collaborated with Zhang Ji Zhong in other costume dramas as well.

    Zhang Ji Zhong really made sure this series would be star-studded. It's a major reunion of sorts for a number of high-profile TV actors that have worked with him in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrinceKrillo View Post
    Nice find, but they really should have just broadcast the series without any cuts to begin with.

    Regardless, the cast is fantastic.

    Zhang Ji Zhong brought back many of the major TV stars that he has collaborated with in the past.

    Xu Jin Jiang (Elvis Tsui), Liu Tao, Shu Chang, Ady An Yi Xuan, You Yong, Wei Zi, TAE, He Zhuo Yan, Hu Ke, Jessey Meng Guang Mei, and Li Tai have all been cast in Zhang Ji Zhong's adaptations of Zha Liang Yong's wuxia novels over the past decade ... including Laughing in the Wind (2001), The Legend of the Condor Heroes (2003), Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils (2003), The Return of the Condor Heroes (2006), Sword Stained with Royal Blood (2007), Royal Tramp (2008), and The Heaven Sword and Dragon Saber (2009).

    Wu Yue
    , Nie Yuan, and William Feng Shao Feng have also starred in wuxia adaptations in the past and have collaborated with Zhang Ji Zhong in other costume dramas as well.

    Zhang Ji Zhong really made sure this series would be star-studded. It's a major reunion of sorts for a number of high-profile TV actors that have worked with him in the past.


    Just curious

    which one did you typed in the search box? cause the third one seem to be the ultra one with english subtitle.

    I also just found another website that have it too.


    go on www.ZoomMovie.com or you can type that in some searching website ZoomMovie

    and when you get to the website. in the search box just type Journey

    Journey

    it will give a list of 9 to 10 result. at this point all u have to do is read the words and find the right picture for the right series/movie lol.


    How do you guys like this DVD 66 episodes version suprise that was not shown on TV in the mainland?
    Hey jianghu fansub people, are u guys still planning on subbing this since there's a DVD version with english subtitle?


    another friend on wow just told me that there might still be a 70 episodes version but it won't be released ever lol.

    Who Knows, the magic never end with Journey to the West

    I guess the first version shown last year was just to make us interested, than the edited version this year to confuse us and make us more interested to watch, than the DVD version with full 66 episodes is to make us even more curious lol.
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    If you can't comprehend the deep philosophy behind the first three minutes of this video (Episode 39), then you have no business watching (or even reading) Journey to the West. THIS is what JTTW (and Chinese Mythology and Wuxia in general) is all about ... the deeper meanings behind Taoist and Buddhist philosophies. Those that can't comprehend what Xuan Zang and these damn TREES are saying should stick to crappy anime and nerdy role-playing games. This series requires more wisdom and enlightenment than most are capable of. The 1986 version (FAIL) focused only on the lame-*** poetry ... I doubt the retarded producers could even comprehend either Dao (Taoist) or Fa (Buddhist). Thankfully, Zhang Ji Zhong isn't a pea-brained moron, and he had the intelligence to adapt the deep philosophy from this part of the story.

    First of all, even though the 1986 idiots adapted this storyline, they (not surprisingly) failed miserably to convey anything whatsoever. They completely skipped over the deep, philosophical part of the story (probably because they're too stupid to even comprehend it) and only focused on the lame-*** poetry. Thankfully, Zhang Ji Zhong actually has a shred of intelligence. He chose to skip the stupid, pointless poetry (THANK YOU), and instead adapt the IMPORTANT philosophical part BEFORE that. Thanks to Zhang Ji Zhong, we now have the very FIRST successful adaptation of this storyline in HISTORY.

    Cloud-Whisking Ancient (the Bamboo Immortal) has got to be my favorite out of all six ... primarily because of his attitude towards Xuan Zang and the Buddhist faith. In the novel, he basically says outright what all of us TRUE Taoists think: that the TRUE Dao (Way) is Taoist and has belonged to China since the beginning ... whereas the "derivative" Buddhism and its Dharma are nothing more than a false and muddled extension of the PURE Dao ... originating from the west (India) ... so for those too stupid to understand, in the novel Cloud-Whisking Ancient basically craps all over Xuan Zang and his Buddhist Dharma in favor of the far superior and far more pure Taoism, calling Xuan Zang a traitor to China for pursuing the Indian crap. Too bad Zhang Ji Zhong didn't adapt what he said verbatim in his version ... still far, far more than what the 1986 crap version adapted ... which was nothing at all. Obviously would have been quite offensive ... yet totally and utterly

    TRUE.However, in Zhang Ji Zhong's version, Xuan Zang and the Tree Immortals do use philosophical terms such as 道 Dao (Taoist Way), 法 Fa (Buddhist Dharma), 禅 Chan (Zen), 静 Jing (Tranquility), 渡 Du (Transcend), and 悟 Wu (Comprehend) ... just as they appear in the text of the novel itself. Brilliant adaptation. 1986 = piss. Those that aren't familiar with all six of these terms really have no business watching Journey to the West and should stick to Saturday morning cartoon shows. That's the problem today ... moronic parents thinking such a philosophical epic is suitable for the pea-brained minds of children ... when they themselves probably can't even come close to grasping the philosophical concepts from the novel ... let alone their retarded spawn.

    All six terms are used in this part of the story in association with the end result (and the ultimate point of the entire novel) ... 修成正果 Xiu Cheng Zheng Guo (to attain true and absolute enlightenment).

    This storyline brings to light the often unspoken conflict of Dao (Taoist Way) vs. Fa (Buddhist Dharma) ... although honestly, the conflict between Taoism and Buddhism is a HUGE theme in Journey to the West (not that I would expect most of the pea-brained idiots that watch the series to even get that) and is the focus of a number of storylines ("Three Demon Taoists," "No Buddhist Monks Allowed," etc.). And guess what? As a Taoist Immortal myself, it should go without saying that I am of course behind the Taoist Bamboo Immortal, Cloud-Whisking Ancient (the best of the six) ... and not the lame Buddhist monk who abstains from meat, wine, and sex.

    These three minutes of Zhang Ji Zhong's production ALONE utterly destroy everything from the 1986 joke/disgrace of an adaptation. Three minutes of fantastic, deep philosophy taken straight from the novel. For people with brains. Funny, isn't it? Intelligent people with wisdom appreciate such philosophy from the novel. Whereas the majority of the pea-brained morons out there can only appreciate "banana breath hitting demons with his stick." FAIL. Zhang Ji Zhong FTW.

    Zhang Ji Zhong really is the #1 greatest TV producer in the history of China. As if his brilliant wuxia adaptations weren't evident enough, now he has produced the greatest, most faithful adaptation of the #1 Chinese mythology epic. Da Hu Zi FTW.
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