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    Default Could any wuxia character have dodged the bullets that killed HMK in THE BUND?

    Crazy scenarios time again.

    In TVB's classic gangster drama THE BUND, Shanghai gang lord Hui Mun Keung (portrayed by a young Chow Yun Fat) met his demise at the end of the series in a hail of machine gun fire. As much as he had previously survived in THE BUND, Hui Mun Keung wasn't going to survive this one.

    Playing that scenario in your mind again: if any of the wuxia characters from the worlds of Jin Yong or Gu Long were caught in the same predicament, could any have them have conceivably escaped (using their martial arts abilities) death where Hui Mun Keung could not?

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    Yes, just do COMBOS: Countering Opponent's Move Before Opponent Strikes. You should be able to sense the attack coming. So just nail the gunman first.
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    Don't you remember that Sweeper Monk's chi wall could even deflect attacks from Superheroes?

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    Can Duan Yu use his speed to get away? Would DFBB be fast enough to use the needles to at least slow down the bullets. Wait, what guns were used? Machine guns right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Yes, just do COMBOS: Countering Opponent's Move Before Opponent Strikes. You should be able to sense the attack coming. So just nail the gunman first.
    The gunmen were in a passing automobile. Have to take that into consideration. They shot at Hui out of the windows of the vehicle.

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    Can Duan Yu use his speed to get away? Would DFBB be fast enough to use the needles to at least slow down the bullets. Wait, what guns were used? Machine guns right?
    Yep. Multiple machine guns...as many as a dozen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix View Post
    Would DFBB be fast enough to use the needles to at least slow down the bullets.
    Assuming there's no cover, that's the only somewhat realistic scenario for a Wuxia expert to get out of that situation. Even the fastest MA expert wouldn't be able to move as fast as a bullet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu Wudi View Post
    Assuming there's no cover, that's the only somewhat realistic scenario for a Wuxia expert to get out of that situation. Even the fastest MA expert wouldn't be able to move as fast as a bullet.
    The way it played out in THE BUND, Hui Mun Keung saw it coming. He saw the auto approaching, sensed something was wrong, and began to take off down the street. He didn't get far, however, before the bullets rang out and hit. Those few seconds, however, might give a wuxia character time to use his hing gung to take off to a nearby roof.

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    It is impossible to even deflect the bullets, much less dodge it.

    However, if it was Xiao Feng who was placed in Hui Man Keung's position then it might be a different story. I can imagine Xiao Feng puff up his chest like a man and take all the bullets without making a sound. After that, his father will come and take him to a nearby cave...

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    Assuming the gunmen are terrible aimers, would Wei Xiao Bao with his armor be able to protect him? Or was that armor only good for swords and not quite proven to be able to withstand bullets (in this case, multiple bullets)?

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    one wonders whether the Diamond Invincible Body (DIB) could be invincible to bullets. My gut feeling would be NO. But maybe if Xuzhu, with his massive internal energy, practiced this skill?
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix View Post
    Assuming the gunmen are terrible aimers...
    I'm guessing that they were quite good...or had enough redundant firepower (they blanketed the area with gunfire) where it didn't matter. Hui Mun Keung had survived getting shot at quite a few times in THE BUND, but he didn't get away that last time.

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    I like what Felix assumed.

    Let me try to rewrite his scenario a little bit.

    Assuming the gunmen are actually Persian belly dancers dressed in Catholic nun outfit wearing green Babylonian robes and French beret hats...
    忽见柳荫下两个小孩子在哀哀痛哭,瞧模样正是武敦儒、武修文兄弟。郭芙大声叫道:「喂,你们在干甚麽?」武 修文回头见是郭芙,哭道:「我们在哭,你不见麽?」

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    Dugu 9 Jian's Anti-missile stance coupled with Kuihua Bodian is the obvious candidate to counter machine gun fire. It would be like the last scene of the Matrix, the user would be moving so fast and be able to listen for and predict the path of the bullets such that the bullets would look like they're in slow-mo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    The way it played out in THE BUND, Hui Mun Keung saw it coming. He saw the auto approaching, sensed something was wrong, and began to take off down the street. He didn't get far, however, before the bullets rang out and hit. Those few seconds, however, might give a wuxia character time to use his hing gung to take off to a nearby roof.
    Assuming the wuxia hero has as much danger detection as HMK in the Bund, which is quite likely, then the would too run down the street. My bet is that they will at least keep up to those cars back then and hence be in a range difficult to aim with a machine gun, or at least have time to run into a side alley.
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    The best defense is total offense. Just launch a full barrage of Dragon Palms. At minimum, you would overturn the vehicle. For full impact, drown yourself in wine to increase the damage levels!

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    Wow, there are a few XF fanboys here.

    If there are a few seconds to react, then lighness kung fu is the solution. As Ken said, escape via the roof.

    Otherwise...
    You do know that it is just fiction, dont you?

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    With wuxia you can be as creative as you want to be. Play a jade flute, let out a lion roar, or seal acupoints. No contest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9Dragons View Post
    With wuxia you can be as creative as you want to be. Play a jade flute, let out a lion roar, or seal acupoints. No contest!
    Yes, the possibilities are endless.

    A ROAR would work well.

    LDA would work well.
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