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    Default Is there a difference between Great Vajra Palm and Great Strength Vajra Palm?

    Great Vajra Palm (大金刚掌)

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    Great Strength Vajra Palm (大力金刚掌)

    Are they different techniques?
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    Can please you list the works in which these names were used?

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    I thought there's a Great Strength Vajra Finger (大力金刚指).

    I don't remember there's a Great Strength Vajra Palm (大力金刚掌)?
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    Not Great Strength Vajra Palm; Great Vajra Palm. It was used by Xuanci in DGSD, who was one of the few monks in Shaolin's history to be able to master it.

    My gut feeling is the Great Vajra Palm, as even in the DGSD era, it was an extremely difficult art for people to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Great Vajra Palm (大金刚掌)

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    Great Strength Vajra Palm (大力金刚掌)

    Are they different techniques?
    I know where 大力金刚掌 appeared. But where in JY works did 大金刚掌 appear?

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    大力金刚掌 doesn't exist in Jin Yong's popular novels. I am missing Yuanyang Dao and Yue Maiden so dunno if it was mentioned in those 2.

    大金刚掌 was only mentioned in DGSD.

    However, in movies, I've not heard of 大金刚掌. 大力金刚掌 seems to be used more frequently. And I think 大力金刚掌 sounds better.
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    vijra means diamond in indian. usually martial arts that originated from india have vijra in its name. there are a few real schools of martial arts in india that have thunderbolt/diamond fist indra/vijra fist. shaolin also has some skills by that name in real life. some wuxia novelist take vijra for buddhist martial arts names. jin yong has used it for da'er ba's staff technique in ROCH and for some shaolin skills.
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    "Great Strength Vajra" IIRC is the holy name for the bodyguard of a sage / buddha.
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    I think they are the same skill(?). The former being a short form and coloquial way of saying the latter. Just my gut feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candide View Post
    "Great Strength Vajra" IIRC is the holy name for the bodyguard of a sage / buddha.
    Yes, 金刚 is Buddha's warrior attendant.
    金刚石 is a diamond.
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