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    Central Divinity Wang Chongyang taught Reverend Yideng the Pre-Heaven Technique, because Wang wanted there to be a way to subdue Ouyang Feng even after Wang died. But if Wang really wanted to get rid of Ouyang for the sake of humanity, could he just take out Ouyang himself?
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    If WCY just went out to get OYF, he'd never be able to without using an army of QZ fighters to storm OYF's base.

    So the only way would be to counter OYF whenever WCY encounters him. But OYF isn't so much weaker than WCY that he couldn't get away in most situations.


    The best thing would've been to do what WCY did and trick OYF to get him close. Too bad WCY was in a bad shape and was only able to destroy OYF's martial arts. Why didn't his students or ZBT finish off OYF? I can't remember.

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    Not if he wanted to be a good Daoist. WCY ensured balance would be maintained before he died and that is all a good Daoist can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Central Divinity Wang Chongyang taught Reverend Yideng the Pre-Heaven Technique, because Wang wanted there to be a way to subdue Ouyang Feng even after Wang died. But if Wang really wanted to get rid of Ouyang for the sake of humanity, could he just take out Ouyang himself?
    Lol if we assume WCY is 4-5 times better than OYF... then definitely he can take on OYF.

    But surely we are not meant to believe WCY is that much better. And you dun really believe that WCY was 4-5 times better right? ... otherwise you wouldnt ask if he could take on OYF lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by flamer View Post
    Lol if we assume WCY is 4-5 times better than OYF... then definitely he can take on OYF.

    But surely we are not meant to believe WCY is that much better. And you dun really believe that WCY was 4-5 times better right? ... otherwise you wouldnt ask if he could take on OYF lol
    Wong Chung Yeung had one foot in the grave (literally) when he injured Au Yeung Fung. It was amazing he could get even that much accomplished considering he was minutes away from meeting his maker.

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    if WCY took out ouyeung feng, there will be no point in continuing LOCH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuNaR View Post
    if WCY took out ouyeung feng, there will be no point in continuing LOCH.
    It'd be LOCH without its most powerful and threatening villain.

    Maybe Jin Yong would have needed to bring in the Golden Wheel Monk twenty years ahead of schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis Chen View Post
    Not if he wanted to be a good Daoist. WCY ensured balance would be maintained before he died and that is all a good Daoist can do.

    Does that mean that if H7G was about to kill OYF he would step in and save the bad guy?

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    Nah, it means that if there's a shortage of villains in the world he will become a villain himself to ensure the balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    It'd be LOCH without its most powerful and threatening villain.

    Maybe Jin Yong would have needed to bring in the Golden Wheel Monk twenty years ahead of schedule.
    then whose going to make ROCH continue
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    OYF was injured badly but he wasn't crippled like HQG was after the snake bite. he was able to run away. it took him five years to recover from it. when WCY and LCY competed, she was initally superior but because of two bouts of illness, WCY was able to surpruss her. both OYF and yideng had lost thier vital energy and had to take five years to reain it, but years later, they were still equal with HQG and HYS. HQG said he was lazy and did not practise hard and HYS had a daughter to look after by himself. maybe this led to them not working as hard as yideng and OYF. or maybe after reaching a certain level, the greats hit a ceiling and were not able to progress as fast, and in the years following OYF and yideng caught up with HQG and HYS.
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    Yi Deng only lost his internal power when he healed Huang Rong. He was able to regain a lot of his internal quickly with 9 Yin.

    HYS did dedicate quite a bit of his time to his martial arts. He actually thought that he had surpassed the other Greats in LOCH until he saw HQG and OYF fighting each other on Peach Blossom Island when Guo Jing and OYK were both asking for Huang Rong's hand in marriage. HYS quickly realized he was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Wong Chung Yeung had one foot in the grave (literally) when he injured Au Yeung Fung. It was amazing he could get even that much accomplished considering he was minutes away from meeting his maker.
    Ah! Another thread about plotting to kill my AYF! (After the survivor voting game last year )

    I'd always thought that WCY could injure AYF that badly was because he had planned and saved up all his energy to have one hit. And AYF's defences was also unprepared (after he took down all who were in the mourning hall, he didn't think there was anyone left) and didn't expect WCY to rise from the dead and smack him. If the nearly dead WCY met a fully-prepared AYF face on, don't think he would have made it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charbydis View Post
    Ah! Another thread about plotting to kill my AYF! (After the survivor voting game last year )
    Actually, that was more than 2 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyss of the sword View Post
    maybe after reaching a certain level, the greats hit a ceiling and were not able to progress as fast, and in the years following OYF and yideng caught up with HQG and HYS.
    That's exactly what it is. In fact, this same point was mentioned in ROCH when Yang Guo was training during the sixteen years. JY specifically mentions that once he got to the level he was at, the returns got really small.

    It's the law of diminishing returns. Once they get to great level, it takes something/someone extraordinary to burst past it.

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    In reponse to PJ's original question.

    No. Au Yeung Fung wasn't Wong Chung Yeung's type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CC View Post
    Does that mean that if H7G was about to kill OYF he would step in and save the bad guy?
    I would say yes. I think that is why Jin Yong changed HSDS so that ZSF did not kill Song Qinshu: neither Daoist Priest are killers.
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    Aw! Why agitate to kill Ouyang Feng off so early...he's Yang Guo's beloved godfather!

    I strongly believe much of Yang Guo's prowess in martial arts originate from his early training in the Toad Stance with Ouyang Feng.

    Quote Originally Posted by PJ View Post
    Central Divinity Wang Chongyang taught Reverend Yideng the Pre-Heaven Technique, because Wang wanted there to be a way to subdue Ouyang Feng even after Wang died. But if Wang really wanted to get rid of Ouyang for the sake of humanity, could he just take out Ouyang himself?

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    I strongly believe much of Yang Guo's prowess in martial arts originate from his early training in the Toad Stance with Ouyang Feng.
    This should, in itself, be more than enough reason to kill OYF
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    I think WCY can't forcefully take out OYF (storm his base).

    OYF's base is likely to be heavily guarded by snakes and other potential mechanisms. I believe OYF's intelligence is a little underrated. Remember that OYF was able to break into Peach Blossoms Isle. I won't be surprised if White Camel Mountain has plenty of traps of its own.

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