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    Default Which Cult Leader did the Ming Cultists like/respect more: YDT or CMG?

    The Ming Cultists of the HSDS generation went through two leaders (not counting Yeung Siu, who became leader of the Ming Cult at the end of HSDS, but we have no idea how his reign went): Yeung Ding Teen and Cheung Mo Gei.

    Both were fine Cult Leaders, but overall, which of the two did the Ming Cultists like and respect more?

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    I would say definitely ZWJ.

    He was grandson of YTZ.
    God-son of XieXun.
    Cured WYX's long lasting problem.
    and we can forget about Dragon King lol.

    Yang Xiao/Fan Yao was said to be very impressed with ZWJ and complete subordination.YDT would receive the same, if not less.

    And his MA would draw even more awe to him from within the Sect and he reached QKDNY Level 7 ().

    And whats more, he saved Ming Sect from the brink of complete destruction.

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    Prolly ZWJ. We don't really know all that much about YDT's reign. Knowing how everyone genuinely respected ZWJ, it's hard to envision YDT having been better in that dept.

    Didn't stop Zhu Yuan Zhang from manipulating ZWJ though hehe. He dared to do what he did only because he knew he could get away with it.
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    Easily Zhang Wuji.

    Under his rule, the Ming Cult was saved, reunited, then became the biggest and most influential organization in wulin, won the respect of others - including the orthodox schools - and spearheaded the rebellions to drive the Mongol invaders out. The Cult was in every way better than it was under YDT's rule. Ming Cultists all shared that thought. It was mentioned in a few chapters, one was the Great Moon Festival they had before splitting up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox2002 View Post
    Didn't stop Zhu Yuan Zhang from manipulating ZWJ though hehe. He dared to do what he did only because he knew he could get away with it.
    Zhu Yuanzhang only rebelled as Ming Sect is not powerful and the rebellion would actually do something for him. Under YDT, if he rebelled, what is he looking for? Position of Sect Leader? No one in the Sect would want that weakling. But at this stage, Ming Sect is in the need for an emperor, not a warrior.

    That said, the traits of ZWJ gave Zhu Yuanzhang the weakness to exploit. (YDT would have probably pwned him right there if he was tied up and listened to Zhu Yuanzhang behind the door.)

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    I would guess that the Ming Cultists respect Yang Dingtian more, but they like Zhang Wuji more.

    ZWJ seems to be a leader that is close to his subordinates, sharing weal and woe with them, treating them as equals.

    While YDT probably was a guy who was able to curb the 6 Herald/Guardian Lords' eccentricity due to his strong leadership qualities and man-handling skills, which would probably enable him to gain respect from the Ming Cultists.
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    I definitely think they respect ZWJ more.

    YDT was given the role of leadership from the previous leader.

    ZWJ though was voted upon by others (sort of). YDT was the leader, don't like it, too bad. But for ZWJ, every big name person in the cult was ok with it.

    Similarly, like how ZWJ passed on the leadership to Yang Xiao, I am pretty sure most people still respect ZWJ more than YX.

    Had Xie Xun taken over the leadership, he too, would not have got much respect compared to ZWJ.

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    Easily ZWJ because he saved them from extinction on Brightness Peak.

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