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    Quote Originally Posted by LuNaR View Post
    i agree that ah ke was upset, i think it was only ah ke and the older sister of the hunan general sect that was upset. and it was not a joke, at least not how tvb portrayed it. i saw domd 98, the younger sister, shang er, and the girl that likes to play the flute on top of the moutain were gossipping about who WXB did and did not do it with.

    but i will apologize if my post offended anyone because i had no intention to do so, sorry
    Just remember...anytime you put "rape" and "enjoy" in the same sentence, you're asking for trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuNaR View Post
    but i will apologize if my post offended anyone because i had no intention to do so, sorry
    I apologise for getting so work up too. I was just upset about u saying the rape is a 'good' rape. No rape is a 'good' rape unless the couple is playing SM games.
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    I was going to hand LuNaR a shovel, but that dude keeps digging himself way too fast down that hole and probably doesn't need one now.
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    Originally Posted by LuNaR
    how is it rape if the women enjoyed it?

    at least hes not someone like yang guo where he steals 10 women heart and make them not marry for the rest of their lives.
    That's not what i dislike about yang guo..Geese YG need a reason to help people, on many occasion he choose whom he help.
    How can that man be a protagonist..
    When you feel like you're the POOREST man in the world ....
    COUNT your BLESSING, then suddenly you are one of the RICHEST man in the universe!

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    Ken Cheng's most hated protagonist should be Yang Guo. . .

    [ 空蕩的街景 想找個人放感情 做這種決定 是寂寞與我為鄰...我們的愛情 像你路過的風景 一直在進行 腳步卻從來不會為我而停...給你的愛一直很安靜 來交換你偶爾給的關心 明明是三個人的電影 我卻始終不能有姓名...你說愛像雲 要自在飄浮才美麗 我終於相信 分手的理由有時候很動聽...給你的愛一直很安靜 來交換你偶爾給的關心 明明是三個人的電影 我卻始終不能有姓名... 一直很安靜 ]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    How was Jin Yong able to become a popular and successful wuxia novelist after his first major hero was such a dud with readers?

    Or, perhaps, Chan Ga Lok was somehow better received by 1950s and 1960s readers than today's readers (different values, etc.)? My father read BOOK & SWORD, and he never discussed any disdain towards Chan Ga Lok.
    Another possibility is that B&S wasn't that popular back then (not saying it definitely wasn't; just a hypothesis). Maybe Jin Yong didn't become that popular until after LOCH.
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    Honestly, singling Ken out like that is getting slightly annoying. Not saying that Ken isn't being overparanoid lately, but comments like that really isn't going to help the situation.


    Chen Jia Luo is my answer. Guys like him are annoying, the end.

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    Yeah, I agree with the consensus that Chen Jialuo is a real prick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raden Wijaya View Post
    That's not what i dislike about yang guo..Geese YG need a reason to help people, on many occasion he choose whom he help.
    How can that man be a protagonist..
    Yang Guo is a goose? Or is he actually two geese?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox2002 View Post
    Yang Guo is a goose? Or is he actually two geese?
    Why don't you have a geese?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yittz View Post
    Why don't you have a geese?
    Because geese is the plural form of goose. I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox2002 View Post
    Yang Guo is a goose? Or is he actually two geese?
    one for good YG, one for bad YG

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadebunny9 View Post
    Because geese is the plural form of goose. I think.
    Yep, that's right. One is a goose, two are geese.

    I suspect what Raden Wijaya was trying to say was a slang word, geeze (or sometimes jeeze), which is a bit like saying "oh for Pete's sake" or "for crying out loud" or other similar colloquial expressions of annoyance/dismay. Or for Chinese speakers, "Ai yo!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniffles View Post
    I suspect what Raden Wijaya was trying to say was a slang word, geeze (or sometimes jeeze), which is a bit like saying "oh for Pete's sake" or "for crying out loud" or other similar colloquial expressions of annoyance/dismay. Or for Chinese speakers, "Ai yo!"
    I know that...

    It's just that what he said was so ridiculous, I thought my reply should be just as ridiculous. I was originally gonna ask him to provide some examples from the book to back up what he said, but I knew it would just be a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox2002 View Post
    I know that...

    It's just that what he said was so ridiculous, I thought my reply should be just as ridiculous. I was originally gonna ask him to provide some examples from the book to back up what he said, but I knew it would just be a waste of time.
    Sorry, I had my pedantic setting turned on then.

    Why all the hate-on for Chen Jialuo and Yang Guo? I like both characters because they're flawed personalities. Reading about flawless people would be boring.

    I'm re-reading Book & Sword right now and not finding anything particularly reprehensible about CJL, except perhaps his obsession with rescuing WTL at all cost. But I haven't got to the parts about Princess Fragrance yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sniffles View Post
    Sorry, I had my pedantic setting turned on then.

    Why all the hate-on for Chen Jialuo and Yang Guo? I like both characters because they're flawed personalities. Reading about flawless people would be boring.

    I'm re-reading Book & Sword right now and not finding anything particularly reprehensible about CJL, except perhaps his obsession with rescuing WTL at all cost. But I haven't got to the parts about Princess Fragrance yet.
    That's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniffles View Post
    Sorry, I had my pedantic setting turned on then.

    Why all the hate-on for Chen Jialuo and Yang Guo? I like both characters because they're flawed personalities. Reading about flawless people would be boring.

    I'm re-reading Book & Sword right now and not finding anything particularly reprehensible about CJL, except perhaps his obsession with rescuing WTL at all cost. But I haven't got to the parts about Princess Fragrance yet.
    CJL deserves the hate. YG doesn't -- at least not for what the haters hate him for.

    Like I said in another thread, I haven't seen a single YG hater express a legitimate reason -- i.e., something supported by the book -- they hate him for yet. It's probably because I haven't been around the wuxia section that much until recently. However, I have already seen plenty of YG hate, just nothing legitimate so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingfox2002 View Post
    CJL deserves the hate. YG doesn't -- at least not for what the haters hate him for.
    When I read Book & Sword the first time a couple of years ago I didn't end up hating CJL. But I'll have to see how I feel about him when I finish reading it again.
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