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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    That's how MANY people feel about ROCH.
    Is it me or has anyone else noticed many ROCH haters are LOCH fanatics?

    On topic, I dislike these characters:
    Gongsun Zhi - dirty old man
    YZP - ****** rapist
    ZWJ - wimpy and indecisive, i dont understand how the ladies can fall for him
    Mie Jue - crazy old hag
    YK - annoying till the very end

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangs View Post
    Is it me or has anyone else noticed many ROCH haters are LOCH fanatics?
    Considering that ROCH plays like some perverse, evil mirror universe version of LOCH...that's only logical.



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    ^
    1. One hero is the epitome of heroism while the other one has a few non-hero traits.
    2. One hero is stupid (to put it bluntly), one hero is smart.
    3. One heroine is smart and knows pretty much everything, one heroine is naive and doesn't know about the ways of the world.
    4. One has a variety of 3-dimensional characters that resemble human personalities, one has very few characters, with the 2 leads being 1-dimensional and somewhat unrealistic.
    5. One has villains that can be symphathised with, one has villains who are just plain villains.
    6. One is well-balanced, one is radical.

    The list goes on.

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    People who like Guo Jing and hates Yang Guo are usually uptight people with high social status and tends to follow every law out there whereas people who likes Yang Guo are usually rebellious in nature, loves to have drink and have fun. ROCH is the MOST popular Jin Yong novel, and Yang Guo is Jin Yong's favorite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minutemanwayne View Post
    ROCH is the MOST popular Jin Yong novel, and Yang Guo is Jin Yong's favorite.
    Proof?

    Let's see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    Proof?

    Let's see it.
    Not sure bout this but I think ROCH has more adaptations than any other JY novel, it has an anime adaptation too. No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangs View Post
    Not sure bout this but I think ROCH has more adaptations than any other JY novel, it has an anime adaptation too. No?
    That's not proof of overall popularity or that it was Jin Yong's "favorite."

    That anime aside, each time an ROCH adaptation was made, an LOCH adaptation preceded it.

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    Judging from references in popular media, I would assume it's definitely either LOCH or ROCH, but I'm leaning more towards ROCH too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    That anime aside, each time an ROCH adaptation was made, an LOCH adaptation preceded it.
    Except for the Taiwan Richie Ren version. Yang Pei Pei made ROCH first. She did plan to make LOCH later, but, Jin Yong ban her from adapting his novels liao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken Cheng View Post
    That's not proof of overall popularity or that it was Jin Yong's "favorite."

    That anime aside, each time an ROCH adaptation was made, an LOCH adaptation preceded it.
    Yep not really a proof but it can be a basis if we are going to do an analysis. The romantic theme of ROCH probably makes it more viable for adaptation than any other novel imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangs View Post
    Yep not really a proof but it can be a basis if we are going to do an analysis. The romantic theme of ROCH probably makes it more viable for adaptation than any other novel imo.
    Wuxia purists tend to not be huge fans of it, though.

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    i'm a fan of both ROCH and LOCH. both are great.

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    Yes, but I think ROCH had more over-the-top cheesy kind of episodes, e.g. Passionless Valley saga, Big Bird teaching sword skills

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    Quote Originally Posted by xiaolong View Post
    Yes, but I think ROCH had more over-the-top cheesy kind of episodes, e.g. Passionless Valley saga, Big Bird teaching sword skills
    ROCH has more cheese in it than a pizza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangs View Post
    Is it me or has anyone else noticed many ROCH haters are LOCH fanatics?

    On topic, I dislike these characters:
    Gongsun Zhi - dirty old man
    YZP - ****** rapist
    ZWJ - wimpy and indecisive, i dont understand how the ladies can fall for him
    Mie Jue - crazy old hag
    YK - annoying till the very end
    Well, I don't think I'm a LOCH fanatic exactly... I'm more into DGSD.

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    I'm basing on the series that I've seen...

    - Guo Jing's first master because he was blind inside and out.
    - The two guys that followed and sucked up to Guo Fu (seriously, can they be anymore useless and annoying?)
    - ZWJ from HSDS 2003 (is ZWJ supposed to be that annoying and naive? I don't really follow HSDS)

    that's all i can think of for now...

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    ZWJ is just too naive and indecisive! that's y i hate HSDS.
    The two that suck up to Gu Fu isn't as bad as Gu Fu herself.
    and yeah, GJ master (the blind guy) is truly blind!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic85 View Post
    ZWJ is just too naive and indecisive! that's y i hate HSDS.
    The two that suck up to Gu Fu isn't as bad as Gu Fu herself.
    and yeah, GJ master (the blind guy) is truly blind!!!
    A lot of people dislike GF for her stubborn and spoil traits, but i didn't find her annoying at all. i was mostly bothered by the two guys even though they weren't main characters, still i was very annoyed.

    and wow, i didn't realized that so many people hate YG...

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    Quote Originally Posted by So Yen View Post
    A lot of people dislike GF for her stubborn and spoil traits, but i didn't find her annoying at all. i was mostly bothered by the two guys even though they weren't main characters, still i was very annoyed.

    and wow, i didn't realized that so many people hate YG...
    Yeah, a alot of people hate the couple YG & XLN, ppl but they are my favorite!

    The two Wu bros are lucky to end up with Wiyang Ping and Yelu Yan (i hope i got their names rite) rather then with Guo Fu. I dont really know what Yelu Qui sees in GF.

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