New Heavenly Sword Dragon Sabre'09/10- Deng Chao, Ady An, Liu Jing

[tweety365]

Man, all this hype about Ady's performance is making me so anxious to watch it. Although I have been disappointed with most of ZJZ productions. BXJ is an exception, but I credit that to his lack of involvement.

I think Ady is very pretty. But to me, Sharla Cheung in Kungfu Cult Master was the most beautiful ZM. Not to mention she had screen presence oozing out of her.

Liu Jing as ZZR pales in comparison to other actresses who took up the role (in terms of looks and screen presence). Cross that, I place her above Charmaine and God knows I can't stand that woman. She still looks old and unimpressive. I still think she is a miscast. But makes it easier to root for ZM.

[forgot password]

in all Yttlj series:

An yixuan = the prettiest Zm
Jia Jingwen = the cutest
Gao yuanyuan = the most beautiful
Zhang min = the best
Wang jinghua = the hottest Miejue (might even be TEH hottest)
Zhang meng = the best + the prettiest Yin li

in Yttlj 09, An yixuan is the prettiest, but if I were Zwj, i would go for Miejue.

[loislane]

I'd like to ask about a certain HSDS09 filming picture of a ZWJ-ZM scene that might appear in the latter episodes. So if you don't want to be spoiled, better not read this:

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From the closing credits, we saw a scene where ZWJ kissed ZM's cheek. But I'm pretty sure I saw a filming picture before where ZWJ kissed ZM's lips (or about to). Does anyone still has the pic? I wonder if this scene will appear later? Or has it been replaced with the cheek kiss?

[vindikattor]

in all Yttlj series:



in Yttlj 09, An yixuan is the prettiest, but if I were Zwj, i would go for Miejue.

I don't think HSDS was meant for "Cougar" hunting....


Eps 27,


The scene with in which Xiao Zhao hesitantly to acknowledge Dai QiSi as her mother is overkill for trying to be dramatic.

[ilsunjo]

My gosh! I've seen the last episode, Please only those who want to know the ending
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Zhaomin asks Wuji to write her eyebrows, and at that moment Zhiruo shows up and says he still has a favor to do for her, so wuji asks, what is it, and zhiruo says the day when you marry Zhaomin, I'll tell you. Wuji looks confused and the end!

[loislane]

My gosh! I've seen the last episode, Please only those who want to know the ending
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Zhaomin asks Wuji to write her eyebrows, and at that moment Zhiruo shows up and says he still has a favor to do for her, so wuji asks, what is it, and zhiruo says the day when you marry Zhaomin, I'll tell you. Wuji looks confused and the end!

Yeah...

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That is the 3rd edition novel ending, I think there had been words abt this, that HSDS09 will follow the 3rd edition novel XD

[flamer]

What's with the sound of eagle/hawk when the BAT King shows up? Another massive LOL

[LiarLiar]

Yeah...

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That is the 3rd edition novel ending, I think there had been words abt this, that HSDS09 will follow the 3rd edition novel XD

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This is not the 3rd edition ending. The third edition ending had ZZR asking ZWJ to never marry ZM. ZWJ agree but said that does not prevent him from having children with ZM and being with her forever. In the third edition. ZWJ still ended up with ZM. If this series ended like that, it will be the first series that had ended this way.

[kenix77]

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[LiarLiar]

I just saw the ending and just had to comment.

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I can't believe it. I just can't. So many things swifting in my mind right now. HOW? WHY? I just don't get it. Why must this series end this way? This is a crazy open ending. I guess you can interpret that he ended up with both girls because either is going to let him go. I guess that is the best case interpretation, but WOW! They basically didn't end it at all. Okay, more thought when I'm cool off tomorrow. Until then, just WOW!

[forgot password]

To: LiarLiar and others who complain about the ending:

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the end of this series is true to what happens at the end of the 2nd edition of the novel. i don't like it but i think it's not too bad.

[loislane]

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This is not the 3rd edition ending. The third edition ending had ZZR asking ZWJ to never marry ZM. ZWJ agree but said that does not prevent him from having children with ZM and being with her forever. In the third edition. ZWJ still ended up with ZM. If this series ended like that, it will be the first series that had ended this way.

Seriously? I swear I've heard the kind of ending that HSDS09 has before.

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So maybe this is the 1st or 2nd edition ending?? Really, I've heard this before. Or maybe they modify it here a bit. Oh well, at least, I think it's better than HSDS79 ending where ZM jumped off from the cliff XD

But I think I'll be in denial watching the ending for this one. Maybe I'll stop it playing right before ZZR comes in. So that I'll get the impression DC's ZWJ and Ady's ZM lives happily ever after.

EDIT: Ah, thank you, forgot_password.

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I knew that ending did happen in one of the edition.

Btw, you might want to put your post in spoiler tags, better not upset the others who doesn't want to be spoiled.

[forgot password]

I don't think HSDS was meant for "Cougar" hunting....

If there was one day I could direct a Yttlj adaptation, my version would have Zwj fall for Miejue's voluptuousness and Miejue's heart badly struck by Zwj's heroism and handsomeness. And they would have to overcome a lot of obstacles, such as Miejue's pride and prejudice against Ming cult, stupid social traditions, and the 4 young girls' jealousy, to live happily together.

[LiarLiar]

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I already knew this was the second edition ending. I still can't believe they chose this ending through. It just had never happen before in any HSDS. The second edition had been around a long, but no HSDS adaptations have ever used it. I can only think of one reason why this is so because this ending suck.

[ilsunjo]

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I already knew this was the second edition ending. I still can't believe they chose this ending through. It just had never happen before in any HSDS.

To tell to truth, I'm shocked! Guys... I'm shocked.
Don't know what to say... My head is blank now.
I have waiting for this Yitian for 2years, only to get this result!

Well, after my shock goes off,
hope someday I will be able to understand Zhangjizhong.

[leorio]

Another guy in another forum I know said Ady is the most NOT-pretty one among the 4 girls. Hmm...

That's my opinion too, actually, and I'm not a guy. Though, to be fair, her kind of pretty is simply not my kind of pretty.
(I will comment on the episodes once my connection cooperates)

[NuDaFu]

No need to thank me for the HSDS94 resolution. I was in an odd humour and relating it in an almost satirical kind of way. It was fun for me.

Oh, I never saw that version because I heard it was really bad. But after your description I'm somewhat tempted.

But in this version does

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Zhao Ming die? Or am I thinking of a different version?

It's a love or hate feeling with HSDS94. I personally love it to bits, and just shut my mind off if it gets too melo-dramatic. Some would argue the whole adaptation is melo-dramatic, but then, I'm not just 'some'.

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ZM falls off a cliff and dies in the HSDS version where Adam Cheng Siu Chow plays ZWJ. In HSDS94, it looked like ZM dies, but her father just gives her a very heavy sleeping potion. Why ZM ends up like this was one of the most excellent changes to the script. I will only elaborate again upon request.

Ok, one thing that seriously bothers me is when ZWJ uses the sword to cut Xiao Zhao's chains. All he did was cut the chain, but not the cuffs.

It bothers me too because of the technicality. Although, showing the cutting of the cuffs would be a lot harder than just the chains. One has to consider you can't hurt the person in the chains while cutting the cuffs; difficult CGI to do (and given ZJZ's standard of CGI, less is better); if one precuts the cuffs and get people to 'pull them apart' at the moment of the sword striking, timing has to absolutely perfect or it would look quite fake. With the latter, some observant audience will see the difference between a precut and real cut...so, still the element of fakery.

Let's just say cutting the chain works symbolically to 'cut the way to freedom'.

Or, the cuffs can stay on Zhu'er's limbs as an exotic set of ornaments .

I'm not looking forward to the 'cat fight'. Seems rather childish for ZM, who so far as shown exceeding cool and devilish maturity.

I don't care who he is with, DC as ZWJ at the moment shows as much 'love' to people as he would to a lump of rock.

it seems that so many girls are raving about ady's performance, which i totally want to see. however, it seems that guys are less impressed with her. in another forum, one guy even said that ady made zm look like spoiled princess who's out to have fun instead of strategizing for her country.

Well, I'd say that 'guy' needs to watch the drama again. Obviously, he is unclear of what drives ZM's motives up to this point. Everything that she has done thus far ends up as an advantage to her father and country. As I mentioned earlier, even her move to get ZWJ out of the country is a strategic one. Better yet, the guy should study the Art of War again.

Royal arrogance would be more appropriate than "spoiled princess".

in Yttlj 09, An yixuan is the prettiest, but if I were Zwj, i would go for Miejue.

I don't think HSDS was meant for "Cougar" hunting....

Yeah, and ZWJ is definitely no Barney .

OK, I'm going to try this without spoiling. I actually like the sounds of 3rd edition ending. It portrays ZWJ as more of a man with meaning and in control of obviously a mean trick to get back at him. It also ultimately and indefinitely shows who he loves. The ending for this series just shows how inane he was to agree to ZZR in the first place. Giving someone unconditional power over you, especially if they have a bone to pick with you, is not being kind, its being plain stupid. Like signing a contract without reading the fine print and the BIG print.

One has to be a few neurons short of a cerebrum to do something like that to oneself.

@LiarLiar

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The only other possibly bad HSDS endings:

HSDS78 ZM jumps off a cliff and dies

HSDS movie (I think a Shaws brother version...very, very old) ZWJ just rides off and leaves ZM because they can't be together due to their 'differences' (obviously this ZWJ hasn't seen 'Pride and Prejudice')

Most are so concernced about the relatively crappy ending, there are remedies to this dilemma, I assure thee.

A. Take ths ending to heart:

If there was one day I could direct a Yttlj adaptation, my version would have Zwj fall for Miejue's voluptuousness and Miejue's heart badly struck by Zwj's heroism and handsomeness. And they would have to overcome a lot of obstacles, such as Miejue's pride and prejudice against Ming cult, stupid social traditions, and the 4 young girls' jealousy, to live happily together.

B. Try my ending:

Jilts ZM at the altar too and runs away into the sunset with Yang Xiao and Fan Yao.

Yes, many people don't like it, ZWJ seemed to show the most cruelty to
ZM in this version, to me, HSDS presented THE most satisfying resolution to the ZWJ/ZM relationship. One of the reasons why I like it so much.

[forgot password]

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I already knew this was the second edition ending. I still can't believe they chose this ending through. It just had never happen before in any HSDS. The second edition had been around a long, but no HSDS adaptations have ever used it. I can only think of one reason why this is so because this ending suck.

well,

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you're right, this is not a good ending. but it's not too bad. I don’t like this ending either, but at least it doesn’t imply that Zwj and Zm would not be with each other for the rest of their lives. You can safely guess that at the wedding Zzr would most likely ask Zwj to not marry Zm to settle the old score in the exact way used by Zm, however, as implied by Jy in the 3rd edn, that wouldn’t prevent him from living and having kids with Zm. Zwj looked confused here not because he was wondering which girl he should go for or if he should take both, but because he was thinking about what Zzr’s demand woud possibly be and how he should deal with it. IMO this ending is still better than the Yttlj 2000’s ending where you see an amnesiac Zzr (Charmaine Sheh) marry Song qingshu .

[j2j2j2]

looking forward to hsds. it seems that so many girls are raving about ady's performance, which i totally want to see. however, it seems that guys are less impressed with her. in another forum, one guy even said that ady made zm look like spoiled princess who's out to have fun instead of strategizing for her country. are there other guys on this forum who feel that she is doing an amazing job except for andychronos?

I'm a guy and I really like Ady's version of ZM. Like others have mentioned, I like the tension that's being built and also that she doesn't seem like some lovelorn schoolgirl.

I also think she's quite pretty. My favorite ZM would be Gigi Lai, while Ady would be on the same level of Zhang Min (the Jet Li version) and Alyssa Chia.

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Let's just say cutting the chain works symbolically to 'cut the way to freedom'.

Or, the cuffs can stay on Zhu'er's limbs as an exotic set of ornaments .

Haha I'm glad someone else is a little bothered by these lack of attention to details.

I also feel this way when people pull huge, bulky objects out of their magic sleeves...sigh...

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IMO this ending is still better than the Yttlj 2000’s ending where you see an amnesiac Zzr (Charmaine Sheh) marry Song qingshu .

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Is that really a bad ending? I thought it was ok because you kinda feel sorry for ZZR in a way.

She was somewhat crazy, driven by her psycho-love of ZWJ, her competitive-hatred of ZM, and her desire to fulfill her teacher's wish.

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On that note, I haven't seen the ending yet but I hope I won't be too disappointed.

We'll see....

[sunnysnow]

I just feel like Zhuer stood out more than the others in acting.

I agree that Zhang Meng (Zhu'er) is a pretty good actress, given that she's very young and still a newcomer. Her Zhu'er is naturally funny and a lot more eccentric than the past Zhu'ers. Nonetheless, I don't think her character stands out more than ZM (though I certainly prefer her to XZ and ZZR). Nothing to do with Zhang Meng's acting of course, just the fact that she plays a supporting character and probably has the least screen time out of the 4 women. Up till this point, I still feel that Ady does the best job out of the 4, if Ady was cast as Zhu'er, I think she'll do a decent portrayal, which might be as good as Zhang Meng's but if Zhang Meng was cast as ZM, im not sure whether she'll be able to pull off ZM as well as Ady did. Granted though as Ady's a much more seasoned and experienced actress than Zhang Meng.

As for Liu Jing, I don't know, I don't like her "good ZZR" portrayal so far, but from trailers seem like she looks good as "evil ZZR", so I'm looking forward to that. For me, Sheren Tang is still the best ZZR.

I agree, I'm not wild over the current ZZR. Constant eye-rolling and petty looks aside, this ZZR is an extremely confused lady. In some scenes, she's convincingly soft, demure and gentle but in other scenes, she turns slightly sinister, commanding and arrogant. Liu Jing's rather inconsistent in her performance (not sure whether its the fault of the directors) such that her ZZR appears to have split personalities which come to think of it, might be quite a unique way of portraying ZZR who is after all, a very cunning and good actress, able to put on different masks in front of different people. If so, it means that this adaptation is not attempting to portray the usual good-to-bad development of ZZR.

Only major disappointment I have with this ZZR (besides the eye-rolling) is that she doesn't look as good as I thought she would look onscreen. The earlier bits where she wore pinkish purple and had her hair let down wasn't so bad and Liu Jing even looked quite sweet at times but now that she has her hair bun up, she's starting to look really matured. In fact, she looks as old as Ding Minjun and even older than some of the other E'mei students which is ironic considering that ZZR is supposed to be one of the youngest students. Hence, her ZZR looks rather out of place with the other 3 women, especially next to XZ and Zhu'er. I almost shudder whenever she calls Zhu'er "jiejie" (older sister).

in another forum, one guy even said that ady made zm look like spoiled princess who's out to have fun instead of strategizing for her country.

That's an extremely weird comment because out of all the ZMs i've seen, Ady's one is probably the least spoiled and fun-loving. In fact, her ZM is probably the most sinister and serious one.

OK, I'm going to try this without spoiling. I actually like the sounds of 3rd edition ending. It portrays ZWJ as more of a man with meaning and in control of obviously a mean trick to get back at him. It also ultimately and indefinitely shows who he loves.

That's exactly how I felt when I read the 3rd edition's ending. A pity they're not following it for this series